Sinovi kineskog zmaja

[Lord Protector]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-15/china-just-took-over-israels-largest-port-and-could-threaten-us-naval-operations

 

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A top Israeli military and energy official has questioned Israel and China's growing economic ties just as a Chinese company is set to begin operating Haifa Port as part of a major 25-year contract previously struck in 2015.

“When China acquires ports,” Israeli Brigadier General Shaul Horev began in an interview this week with national news source, Arutz Sheva, “it does so under the guise of maintaining a trade route from the Indian Ocean via the Suez Canal to Europe, such as the port of Piraeus in Greece. Does an economic horizon like this have a security impact?" 

Gen. Horev, who has also served as navy chief of staff and chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission, continued to sound the alarm over a Chinese takeover, "We are not weighing that possibility sufficiently. One of the senior American figures at the conference raised the question of whether the U.S. Sixth Fleet can see Haifa as a home port. In light of the Chinese takeover, the question is no longer on the agenda.”

He is calling for an Israeli security mechanism that that will review and scrutinize Chinese investments in Israel and the Mediterranean to ensure they don't harm the security interests of Israel or its partners, like the United States. 

 

Edited September 18, 2018 by slow

[mozzer]

Jako.

[pasha]

Tramp siba Kineze sa tarifama a oni se cesljaju,

 

US imposes new tariffs on $200bn of Chinese goods

The US is imposing new tariffs on $200bn (£150bn) worth of Chinese goods as it escalates its trade war with Beijing.

These will apply to almost 6,000 items, marking the biggest round of US tariffs so far.

Handbags, rice and textiles will be included, but some items expected to be targeted such as smart watches and high chairs have been excluded.

The Chinese commerce ministry said it had no choice but to retaliate.

In a statement, the ministry said that it hoped the US would correct its behaviour, but did not specify what actions it would take.

The US taxes will take effect from 24 September, starting at 10% and increasing to 25% from the start of next year unless the two countries agree a deal.

 

President Donald Trump said the latest round of tariffs was in response to China's "unfair trade practices, including subsidies and rules that require foreign companies in some sectors to bring on local partners.

"We have been very clear about the type of changes that need to be made, and we have given China every opportunity to treat us more fairly.

"But, so far, China has been unwilling to change its practices," he said.

He also warned that if China retaliated then the US would "immediately pursue phase three" which would mean imposing further tariffs with taxes on another $267bn worth of Chinese products.

If he does go ahead with a further $267bn worth of tariffs, it would mean virtually all of China's US exports would be subject to new duties.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45555749

 

 

[namenski]

On ‎14‎.‎9‎.‎2018‎. at 19:05, ArleKino said:

Ima li šta ovdje o ovom kineskom logoru za muslimane? Milion ljudi se nalazi u kampovima na sjeverozapadu Kine gdje se vrši "revidiranje" putem psihološkog preodgoja.

Jos cekas odgovor?

Tesko da ces docekati: Kina je, i kod najtvrdjih liberala, da ih ne imenujem , jednostavno - u modi.

Sto znaci da je nedodirljiva po pitanju postupaka kao sto su, na primer, konclogori, dozivotni predsednici, ljudska prava, smrtna kazna, itd, itd...

Tamo gde bi se digla liberalna kuka i motika i da samo par takozvanih disidenata, novinarcica i ostalih ugrozenih vrsta fasuje batine ili zaglavi zatvor od dreke i piske imenovanih ne bi mogao, a bogami ni smeo da pokusas da dodjes do reci, ovako - muk.

Necemo valjda da diramo u zivi dokaz uspesnosti trzisnog modela, nicim sputanog razvoja^tm i ostalih dokaza da je nicim ograniceni takozvani privredni rast jedino merilo uspesnosti, obaska sto je mnogo uzbudljivije pratiti Trampove poteze glede carina i ostalih dazbina.

A i kontekst^tm ne treba zaboraviti: zar ti nije dovoljno ilustrativno da je mali debeli Severnokorejac poslednjih par meseci naprasno nestao sa prvog mesta liste najljucih neprijatelja covecanstva, da odjednom fali izvestaja o 99.99% stanovnistva koje gladuje i koje je puno raznih bakterija, prebega koji se ispovedaju po narudzbi, pricajuci samo ono sto njihovi domacini zele da cuju, kucicima kojima se za obrok serviraju politicki protivnici...

[Anduril]

On 14.9.2018. at 19:05, ArleKino said:

Ima li šta ovdje o ovom kineskom logoru za muslimane? Milion ljudi se nalazi u kampovima na sjeverozapadu Kine gdje se vrši "revidiranje" putem psihološkog preodgoja.

 

Dosta se pise o tome vec godinama - recimo, ovde: https://www.theguardian.com/world/xinjiang

Samo sto politicari, po obicaju, spominju i koriste takve stvari uglavnom kada ima zatreba a ne zato sto su zaista zabrinuti za te ljude. 

Ekonomski interesi su im uglavnom vazniji jer to donosi glasove i pare, dok se glasaci na ovakve stvari uglavnom kao zgroze a sledecim klikom nastave da kupuju sve kinesko ili toce benzin/dizel iz KSA i Emirata.

Sada se naravno zahuktava sukob sa Kinom, pa ce povaditi sve vise i vise tih stvari iz sesira.

Na stranu licemerje i sve ostalo - glavno je da ovakve stvare ulaze konacno u zizu javnosti kao sto bi trebale i mnoge zloupotrebe koje je intenzivirao Ji Ping.

Problem je u tome sto su oni poceli da izvoze tu metodologiju i drugde (recimo firewall programe, internet cenzuru i nadzor gradjana, itd), pa ne bi zacudilo da i AV postane musterija.

[namenski]

Americka ratna mornarica objavila je fotografije incidenta koji se dogodio 30. septembra kada je kineski ratni brod #170, opasno se priblizivsi, ugrozio americki razarac USS Decatur.

 

 

Portparol americke Pacificke flote optuzio je Kinu za 'unsafe and unprofessional' manevar kojim se, prema njegovoj tvrdnji, Kinez priblizio Amerikancu na oko 40 metara po krmi; americki brod se, naime, motao Juznokineskim morem u blizini u blizini ostrva Spratley, a u misiji demonstracije prava na slobodu mora.

USS Decatur je morao, izbegavanja sudara radi, da preduzme manevar izbegavanja, promeni kurs i udalji se:

 

 

[kipo]

Kinez valjda uradio niz neprofesionalnih manevara koji porucuju odjebi. U svakom slucaju, vrhunsko natkurcivanje i odlicne foto

[namenski]

 

 

Kako bilo da bilo, Kinezi su - sudeci po ovome - ubedljiviji od ucitelja:

 

 

 

[mraki]

Interpol chief Meng Hongwei vanishes on trip to China

klik

[Peter Fan]

On ‎3‎.‎10‎.‎2018‎. at 14:08, kipo said:

Kinez valjda uradio niz neprofesionalnih manevara koji porucuju odjebi. U svakom slucaju, vrhunsko natkurcivanje i odlicne foto

 

Meanwhile:

The Big Hack

 

But that’s just what U.S. investigators found: The chips had been inserted during the manufacturing process, two officials say, by operatives from a unit of the People’s Liberation Army. In Supermicro, China’s spies appear to have found a perfect conduit for what U.S. officials now describe as the most significant supply chain attack known to have been carried out against American companies.

One official says investigators found that it eventually affected almost 30 companies, including a major bank, government contractors, and the world’s most valuable company,

Apple Inc.

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A zasto:

 

Over the decades, the security of the supply chain became an article of faith despite repeated warnings by Western officials. A belief formed that China was unlikely to jeopardize its position as workshop to the world by letting its spies meddle in its factories. That left the decision about where to build commercial systems resting largely on where capacity was greatest and cheapest. “You end up with a classic Satan’s bargain,” one former U.S. official says. “You can have less supply than you want and guarantee it’s secure, or you can have the supply you need, but there will be risk. Every organization has accepted the second proposition.”

[kipo]

To se radi kako je krenula borba za ekonomska trzista. Francusku su optuzivali da je ugradjivala bubice u airfrance putnicke avione, kako bi slusali razgovore poslovnih ljudi. A Francuzi su njima 80-ih skoro pa uspjeli infiltrirati 20-ak inzenjera u tada najvece firme, ibm i dr. Bio je dokumentarac prije par dana na onom plavom history o francuskoj sluzbi, gdje se i ovi detalji pominju. Kako kazu penzionisani obavjestajci - svi to radimo medju prijateljima, ako te ne uhvate, sve je ok. Ako te pak uhvate, placas cijenu koju politika odredi.

[jezovuk]

Kaže b92 Kina obustavlja sav uvoz sirove nafte iz SAD. Navodno, potpuno iznenada.

[Redoran]

Mislim da je malo drugačije od onoga što je klikbajt92 preneo^tm. Nakon što je Trampara najavio da posle one prve tranše carina na kinesku robu u vrednosti 50 milijardi dolara verovatno uskoro dolazi i druga u vrednosti 200 milijardi, Kinezi su najavili da ako dođe ta druga oni će uzvratiti uvođenjem carina od 25% na američku naftu. Pošto kineski uvoznici prave porudžbine tri meseca unapred, a velike su šanse da će tokom ta tri meseca Trampara pogurati fazu 2 a Kina uzvratiti sa onih 25%, ovog meseca su drastično opale porudžbine američke nafte iz Kine. Drugim rečima, tržište je reagovalo^tm. Profitiraće verovatno Iran, možda i neki manji proizvođač jer američka nafta predstavlja manje od 5% kineskog uvoza ali je zato Kina za američke proizvođače jedan od tri najvažnija kupca. Najjače je što čitav karambol nije čak posledica bilo kakvih zvaničnih odluka već se sve desilo zbog jedne "vidite me što sam opasan" najave i prateće kontranajave.

 

Iz onoga što piše na klikbajtu92 može se zaključiti da je kineska vlada nekakvim dekretom jutros zabranila uvoz nafte iz SAD i da je ceo svet u šoku. U stvarnosti se o mogućem odustajanju kineskih uvoznika od američkih snabdevača piše već dva meseca a sada su krenula ta očekivana povlačenja.

Edited October 6, 2018 by Redoran

[steins]

6 hours ago, kipo said:

 ako te ne uhvate, sve je ok. Ako te pak uhvate, placas cijenu koju politika odredi.

to ko ona urbana legenda o kupovini škoda za panduraciju ...

[kipo]

1 minute ago, steins said:

to ko ona urbana legenda o kupovini škoda za panduraciju ...

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