Roger Sanchez Posted November 5 Posted November 5 (edited) To je bila velika kontroverza na temelju koje su kasnije Eisenhower, Nixon i republikanci dobili trajfektu* i 8 godina Bijele kuće, sve dok Kennedy nije ukrao izbore Nixonu Quote *As of 2022, this marked the third and final time in American history where one party flipped both chambers of Congress and the Presidency in a single election, along with 1800 and 1840. This would be the last time the Republicans won the Senate majority until 1980 and the last time they would win the House majority until 1994.... This is the last time the House changed hands in a presidential year, and the last time both houses simultaneously did so. Demokrate i Trumana su od '50te do '52 pacifistički™ republikanci bušili da su 1949 olako i bez rata prepustili Kinu komunističkim Kinezima (dakle, Who lost China? Commie Democrats!), time inaugurirali i Korejski rat itd. S opipljivim rezultatima, kao što se gore vidi Edited November 5 by Roger Sanchez
namenski Posted November 5 Posted November 5 2 minutes ago, Roger Sanchez said: Demokrate i Trumana su od '50te do '52 pacifistički™ republikanci bušili da su 1949 olako i bez rata prepustili Kinu komunističkim Kinezima (dakle, Who lost China? Commie Democrats!), time inaugurirali i Korejski rat itd. S opipljivim rezultatima, kao što se gore vidi Aham, hvala Znaci da je Kina prepustena, OK? I to komunistickim Kinezima, jer da je Amerika drugacije odlucila, videli bismo cija keva crnu vunu.. Da je trebalo ratovati, a ne pokupiti prnje, biti isteran na metli? Mislim, pitanje je danas samo teorijsko, ali ipak... I, da li bi bio ljubazan da navedes izvor koji si citirao, hvala.
Shan Jan Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Pa jeste prepustena ako gledas geopoliticki - postala je prejaka da bude kontrolisana. Nesto slicno su uspesno uradili sa UK posle WWII, pa sa Francuskom pricom o ujedinjenoj Evropi pa sa Sovjetima pa na kraju sa Japanom kad je pripretio 80tih.... samo im se Kina izgleda otela. Svaka imperija ima pocetak i kraj.
namenski Posted November 5 Posted November 5 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Shan Jan said: Pa jeste prepustena ako gledas geopoliticki - postala je prejaka da bude kontrolisana. Nesto slicno su uspesno uradili sa UK posle WWII, pa sa Francuskom pricom o ujedinjenoj Evropi pa sa Sovjetima pa na kraju sa Japanom kad je pripretio 80tih.... samo im se Kina izgleda otela. Svaka imperija ima pocetak i kraj. Prepustena je, i ne samo Kina, samo onim mladim, lepim i pametnim analiticarima (nista licno naravno ) napajanimtm na tekovinama slavnih posthladnoratovskih '90-ih koji smatraju da neke mudre cike, neki demsi ili oni drugi ili neki treci, vedre i oblace... Opus Dei... Da se Kina i ostali recimo Vijetnami, itd, itd..., bas nista ne pitaju, nego ih neko tako dobije ili izgubi... E, pa - pitaju se, samo sto je ta istorijskaa cinjenica poslednjih decenija skrajnuta da se Vlasi ne dosete. Jer, kada se Vlasi dosete - bude svasta, proradi giljotina recimo... Narocito je mucno kada se za takve potrebe potegne bas Kina: uprkos bukvalno svima, isterala je svoje: BTW, sovjetski, Staljinovtm ambasador je bio poslednji koji se oprostio sa Cangom i pozeleo mu srecan i siguran put na Formozu. I to iskreno, sa sve smatranjem Moskvetm da neki tamo kineski seljoberi mlate praznu slamu, nemaju pojma o marksizmu, onom pravomtm... Ili, uprosceno: kurac bi je izgubili, prepustili, da nije radila motka. I to ona na g... I - mani se imperija... Edited November 5 by namenski
Roger Sanchez Posted November 5 Posted November 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, namenski said: I, da li bi bio ljubazan da navedes izvor koji si citirao, hvala. Nisam citirao izvor, citirao sam sjećanje, ali sjećanje je dobro jer se iz dokumenata vidi kako je to utjecalo na ''ratoborno'' odlučivanje Demokrata u '60tima. Ovo bi ti moglo pomoći: Quote China: A Cautionary Tale Shortly after assuming the presidency, President Lyndon Johnson granted an interview to Jack Knight of the Knight-Ridder newspaper chain. In the interview Johnson surprised the newsman by posing his own question: “What do you think we should do in Vietnam?” The new president was beginning to confront a challenge that would haunt his presidency. A recent coup in South Vietnam had destabilized the situation, leaving the new Democratic President in what he feared was a no-win position. He outlined his options for Knight. “There’s only three things you can do,” Johnson said. “One is to run” from the conflict “and let the dominoes start falling over. And, God Almighty, what they said about us leaving China would be just warming up compared to what they’d say now.” LBJ did not clarify who he meant by “us” when he expressed his fears to Jack Knight. Was he referring to the United States or the Democratic Party—or both? Indeed, he was thinking of a foreign policy debate that began in 1949 and continues today in scholarly circles. The debate was framed as a simple question: Who lost China? A shrewd politician like Lyndon Johnson considered the likely political ramifications of his foreign policy decisions, drawing on hard lessons he and other politicians learned in their careers. Johnson did not want his decisions on Vietnam to doom his presidency. Bay of Pigs je isto izvorno bio plan pacifističkih™ Republikanaca. Oni su namjeravali 'vratiti' izgubljenu Kubu. Quote Recognizing that Castro and his government were becoming increasingly hostile and openly opposed to the United States, Eisenhower directed the CIA to begin preparations for invading Cuba and overthrowing the Castro regime. An early plan to thwart Castro was devised on 11 February 1960 by Tracy Barnes, Jake Esterline, Al Cox, Dave Phillips, and Jim Flannery to sabotage both Cuban and American Sugar mills.... Tri godine ranije dobri™ pacifistički™ Ike je ''vratio'' Gvatemalu koju je Truman olako pustio Edited November 5 by Roger Sanchez
namenski Posted November 5 Posted November 5 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Roger Sanchez said: Bay of Pigs je isto izvorno bio plan pacifističkih™ Republikanaca. Oni su namjeravali 'vratiti' izgubljenu Kubu. Quote Izvorno, neizvorno, pacifisticki, 'pacifisticki', репси i демси...: kod nastm se to zove - исти курац, друго паковање... A teachingtm izvori su ti кева, samo nastavi... Edited November 5 by namenski 1
Roger Sanchez Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Goni se ti zapravo lipo u kurac, sad & ubuduće, glup sam ja što sam pristojan 4 hours ago, namenski said: Aj, molim te, kad stignes? Neću više nikad stići. 1 1
namenski Posted November 5 Posted November 5 2 minutes ago, Roger Sanchez said: Neću više nikad stići. Jebiga, a ja se toliko nadao, ocekivao da ces da republikansko вармонгерство dokazes, krunises podatkom da je i Lincoln, zadrti repstm, zaratio Gradjanski rat... Steta, bas steta...
Shan Jan Posted Monday at 13:28 Posted Monday at 13:28 I dok se Ukrajinci i Rusi igraju ko ce bolje da odgovori na promene u ratu ovog drugog, nesto slicno se desava sa USA i Kinom na drugoj strani planete. TLDR: Tokom posete Nensi Pelosi Tajvanu, USA je u toj meri zaslepila Kineze da nisu uspeli da prate njen putnicki Boeing. Godinu dana kasnije u Juznom Kineskom moru je kineski brod uspesno lockovao FA-18 patrolne avione iako je EA-18 probao da ga zaslepi. Sledeca vest je da je EA-18 poceo da dobija novu generaciju elektronske opreme... Ipak najzanimljivije je koliko brzo Kinezi napreduju i da li ce taj napredak da se nastavi istom brzinom kada/ako sustignu USA. 1
Peter Fan Posted Thursday at 13:14 Posted Thursday at 13:14 Nedavno smo imali neku mini raspravu o Hong Kongu i zasto propada. Da, rezim zateze stege, ali HK je za Kinu izgubio svrhu od prije 25 godina i to je glavni razlog pada. Iz WSJ: How Beijing Took Control of Hong Kong’s Financial Hub—and Left the West Behind The Harvard-educated Chan spoke in Mandarin, a departure from the exchange’s past practice of speeches being given in English or Cantonese. The language was dictated by a 2-to-1 vote over English by the three Chinese asset managers launching new cryptocurrency funds at the exchange that day. The exchange hadn’t offered simultaneous translation in English or any other language. As red-cloth mallets struck the gongs and trading began, the few Westerners in attendance watched silently. Had they understood a word of Chan’s speech, a reporter asked? No, they shook their heads in unison. In ways big and small, Beijing’s takeover of Hong Kong’s financial sector is looking irreversible. With stunning speed, the world’s pre-eminent East-meets-West investment hub has become more Chinese as international financial institutions, corporations, and expatriates retreat. Foreign banks played major roles in one-fifth of Hong Kong’s initial public offerings this year, compared with roughly half just two years ago. Chinese banks have taken the places of Western ones as top earners in the city’s debt-capital market. Private bankers are increasingly catering to first-generation Chinese millionaires instead of the rich expatriates who made their fortunes in decades past. Corporate recruiters say conversational Mandarin is essential to get hired. A spokesman at the Hong Kong exchange said events and listing ceremonies are held in a bilingual format to the extent possible and are tailored to the preferences of individual issuers. He added that Chan, who became CEO in March, often gives speeches in English. The shift feels dramatic at The Iron Fairies, a cocktail bar a short walk from Hong Kong’s stock exchange that for years had been a go-to haunt for Western bankers. Now it’s dominated by Chinese customers, who favor bottles of whiskey and tequila over individual drinks, said Sandeep Sekhri, chief executive of the firm that runs the bar. The in-house jazz band learned a few Mandarin songs at the beginning of the year, including a 1970s mandopop hit called “The Moon Represents My Heart.” 1 1
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