Sirija

[Hella]

Sveukupno, jak inbreeding.

 

ipak su građanisti bili u pravu kada su govorili da dosta ljudi iz tih bliskoistočnih rupčaga počini zijan u evropi zbog mentalnih bolesti

 

sada znamo da je razlog za ta oboljenja veoma raširena praksa incesta u Kulturi koja nas svakodnevno obogaćuje

Edited November 23, 2016 by Hella

[theanswer]

lazanski nastavlja da lupeta na rts-u kako fsa nema nigde sukob protiv isis-a

[apostata]

Donald Trump Jr. Held Talks on Syria With Russia Supporters

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-jr-held-talks-on-syria-with-russia-supporters-1479920753

[Lord Protector]

Donald Trump Jr. Held Talks on Syria With Russia Supporters

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-jr-held-talks-on-syria-with-russia-supporters-1479920753

 

 

 

 

WASHINGTON—Donald Trump’s eldest son, emerging as a potential envoy for the president-elect, held private discussions with diplomats, businessmen and politicians in Paris last month that focused in part on finding a way to cooperate with Russia to end the war in Syria, according to people who took part in the meetings.

Thirty people, including Donald Trump Jr., attended the Oct. 11 event at the Ritz Paris, which was hosted by a French think tank. The founder of the think tank, Fabien Baussart,and his wife, Randa Kassis, have worked closely with Russia to try to end the conflict.

Ms. Kassis, who was born in Syria, is a leader of a Syrian group endorsed by the Kremlin. The group wants a political transition in Syria—but in cooperation with President Bashar al-Assad, Moscow’s close ally.

The disclosure of a meeting between the younger Mr. Trump and pro-Russia figures—even if not Russian government officials—poses new questions about contacts between the president-elect, his family and foreign powers. It is also likely to heighten focus on the elder Mr. Trump’s stated desire to cooperate with the Kremlin once in office.

In an interview, Ms. Kassis said she pressed the younger Mr. Trump during the meeting on the importance of cooperating with the Russians in the Middle East.

“We have to be realistic. Who’s on the ground in Syria? Not the U.S., not France,” Ms. Kassis said from Moscow. “Without Russia, we can’t have any solution in Syria.”

Of the president-elect’s son, she said: “I think he’s very pragmatic and is flexible.”

Ms. Kassis later posted comments on her Facebook page about the meeting:

Syria's] opposition got hope that political process will move forward and Russia and the United States will reach accord on the issue of the Syrian crisis, because of Trump's victory. Such hope and belief is the result of my personal meeting with Donald Trump junior in Paris in October… I succeeded to pass Trump, through the talks with his son, the idea of how we can cooperate together to reach the agreement between Russia and the United States on Syria," Kassis said.

 

“[syria’s] opposition got hope that [the] political process will move forward and Russia and the United States will reach accord on the issue of the Syrian crisis, because of Trump’s victory,” she wrote. “Such hope and belief is the result of my personal meeting with Donald Trump junior in Paris in October.”

She added on Facebook that, through the talks with Donald Trump Jr., she believed she succeeded in conveying to the elder Mr. Trump “the idea of how we can cooperate together.”

Kellyanne Conway, a senior adviser to the president-elect, confirmed the younger Mr. Trump’s attendance at the event in Paris. But she played down his direct contact with Ms. Kassis.

“Don was addressing a roundtable in Paris, and she was present for that talk and at a group dinner for 30 people,” she said in an email. “This event featured a number of opinion leaders from all over the world who were interested in the U.S. elections.”

Mr. Baussart’s think tank, the Center of Political and Foreign Affairs, has hosted a number of current and former government officials and leaders of multilateral organizations, according to its website.

Those meetings have included Turkey’s former president, Abdullah Gul; former United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan; and James Rubin, a one-time State Department spokesman who advised Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

The elder Mr. Trump repeatedly has stressed his desire to work closely with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Syria and to coordinate in fighting the Islamic State terrorist group. His position on Russia emerged as a campaign issue, and Mrs. Clinton called the Republican a “puppet” of Mr. Putin. The elder Mr. Trump denied that accusation.

The Obama administration said it believed the Russian government hacked the emails of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee in a bid to aid the elder Mr. Trump, a charge Moscow denied. Despite a formal U.S. intelligence assessment accusing the Russians, Mr. Trump maintained that the U.S. didn’t know who the hackers were.

A spokeswoman for Mr. Trump, Hope Hicks, has denied a Russian official’s claim that there had been contact between the campaign and the Russian government.

The Obama administration terminated talks with Russia over Syria last month due to a Russian-backed bombing campaign in Aleppo, the country’s largest city.

The younger Mr. Trump, the executive vice president of The Trump Organization, was a top official in his father’s campaign. Transition officials say none of the Trump children will have formal positions in the new administration, but haven’t ruled out informal roles for them.

Ivanka Trump has sat in on her father’s meetings and phone calls with several world leaders since his election, including one with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

The elder Mr. Trump has criticized the Obama administration for seeking to topple Mr. Assad, arguing that doing so could further strengthen Islamic State and other terrorist groups. The president-elect has argued that allying with Russia, which has deployed its air force to bolster Mr. Assad, was the best option for reducing the terrorist threat emanating from the Middle East country.

Mikhail Bogdanov, deputy head of Russia’s foreign ministry, said last week that Moscow had been reaching out to the elder Mr. Trump’s team to discuss Syria, according to Russian news agency Interfax.

Ms. Kassis, in the interview, said at the October meeting she discussed with the younger Mr. Trump the importance of promoting a secular government in Damascus. She echoed an argument made both by the Assad regime and the Russian government, saying Syria’s armed opposition—even those backed by U.S. forces—are radical Islamists.

Ms. Kassis said she has discussed her meeting with Donald Trump Jr. with senior Russian officials, including Mr. Bogdanov. Russia’s foreign ministry didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Interfax reported that a meeting between Ms. Kassis and Mr. Bogdanov took place on Nov. 8, but the report didn’t mention the younger Mr. Trump.

“Randa Kassis has played a key role in Russian efforts to bring together Assad regime elements and opposition members acceptable to Moscow,” said Andrew Tabler of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, which has been critical of Mr. Obama’s Syria policy. Mr. Tabler has regularly talked to Russian officials about the conflict. “Such efforts have been key to Moscow’s approach to making Assad the basis for a transition in Syria.”

President Assad, in an interview last week with Portuguese television, said the elder Mr. Trump was potentially a “natural ally” in the Damascus regime’s fight against the rebel armies.

 

Edited November 24, 2016 by slow

[theanswer]

Navodno je sirijska avijacija pogodila Turke kod Al Baba, 3 mrtva turska vojnika 10 povređenih.

 

Danas je godišnjica obaranja ruskog aviona.

[theanswer]

 

Prilično delikatna situacija oko Al Baba. Sa zapada su danas krenuli ypg i saa, mesto onog vazdušnog udara je Kufayr na ovoj mapi najjužnija pozicija Turaka i FSA.

 

Takođe se pojavljuju informacije o napadu na sam istočni Alep i na jedno od značajnijih napredovanja u samom gradu u poslednje vreme, spominju se i krstareće rakete po tom delu grada.

 

Videćemo kako će Turci reagovati.

[Lord Protector]

Civilians fleeing east Aleppo turned back by gunfire

 

November 23, 2016 Updated: November 23, 2016 11:22 PM

 

Aleppo // Hundreds of civilians trying to flee heavy regime bombardment and fighting in rebel-held east Aleppo were forced back by gunfire, a monitoring group said on Wednesday as the government pressed its offensive to control the whole city.

"On Tuesday night, around 100 families gathered near a passage from the Bustan Al Basha district to cross to Sheikh Maqsud," said Rami Abdel Rahman, director of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

 

"But when the civilians tried to cross to the other side, gunfire broke out," he said, without specifying who was responsible.

Sheikh Maqsud is a northern neighbourhood controlled by Kurdish forces, allied with neither the regime nor the rebels.

The governorate running western Aleppo city said 10 people who had managed to crossed from the east on Tuesday evening had accused rebels of preventing people from leaving, but gave no details on how or where the civilians crossed over.

 

The government has long accused rebels of using residents in the east as human shields. Rebel groups deny any coercion and say the regime is lying.

"This has nothing to do with reality," said Yasser Al Youssef, from the rebel group Nureddine Al Zinki.

"The regime is spreading rumours to try to undermine the resolve of the rebels and those who support them in Aleppo," he said.

A months-long siege by government forces has trapped more than 250,000 civilians in eastern Aleppo with dwindling food and fuel supplies as winter approaches.

 

On November 15 the Syrian army, backed by allied forces from Iran, Russia and the Lebanese militant group Hizbollah, launched a renewed assault on the city’s east, pounding the area with air strikes, barrel bombs and artillery fire.

The offensive has so far killed at least 143 civilians, among them 19 children. Rebel fire on the government-held west has killed 16 civilians, including 10 children.

Government bombardment of east Aleppo has destroyed hospitals and rescue centres, and forced schools to close. Medical officials said some of the barrel bombs dropped by the government appeared to contain chlorine gas. Both Damascus and its ally Moscow have strongly denied any illegal military use of the chemical.

 

Regime troops now control half of the strategic Masaken Hanano district in the north-east of the city, the Observatory said.

Capturing the district would give the army line-of-fire control over several other parts of east Aleppo while dividing it in two.

The renewed bloodshed has stoked international concern, though there has been little sign so far of a plan to halt it.

French foreign minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said on Wednesday that backers of Syria’s moderate opposition would meet in Paris in early December to discuss the situation.

 

He urged the international community to "stop averting its gaze" from the "terrible reality" of the conflict.

Save the Children called for an internationally monitored ceasefire to allow aid into east Aleppo and the evacuation of sick and wounded civilians.

"It is a moral outrage that the death toll of Aleppo’s children continues to grow and seems only set to get worse, whilst so little action is being taken to end the bombing and hold warring parties accountable," said the charity’s Syria director, Sonia Khush.

 

Over the weekend, UN envoy Staffan de Mistura floated a humanitarian plan for Aleppo as well as a proposal for a truce.

The truce deal would have allowed the opposition administration in east Aleppo to remain in place, at least temporarily, in return for extremist fighters leaving.

But the government rejected it, insisting the state had to retake control as any alternative would "reward terrorists".

Recapturing the east would give president Bashar Al Assad’s government perhaps its most important victory yet in a conflict that has killed more than 300,000 people since March 2011.

 

* Agence France-Presse

 

Edited November 24, 2016 by slow

[Geo]

 

Sta li amerikanci bombarduju u blizini Idilba, konfuzniji rat ne secam se da je igde bio....

[theanswer]

Nusru bombarduju tamo.

 

Ne vidim da će istok Alepa izdržati još dugo. Mislim da bi uskoro mogli da vidimo kraj tamo. Crveni su napredovali prilično na više strana u poslednja 2 dana.

[Geo]

Zakuvava se oko Al Baba, gotovo sve vojske se uputile u isti  ...

[theanswer]

Pade Hanano neocekivano brzo, mislim da su dzihadisti na jos jedan poraz unutar grada od predaje.

[borris_]

Prica jedne familije koja je uspjela da pobjegne iz istocnog Alepa.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/thousands-of-civilian-families-forced-by-militias-to-remain-in-eastern-aleppo-a7389346.html

[theanswer]

Potpuni kolaps odbrane istočnog dela Alepa. Distrikti padaju kao domine.

[Ayatollah]

Severoistočni deo je manje-više gotov, na jugoistoku grada još ima organizovanog otpora, i tamo nije bilo pomeranja linija. Može biti do toga što su najkvalitetnije jedinice SAA postavljene upravo na taj severni pravac, a na jugu su ostavljeni Liwa al Quds i druge jedinice slabijeg ofanzivnog potencijala. Videćemo kako će se stvari odvijati, nije nemoguće ni da dođe do masovne predaje, jer je sada i rebelima na istoku jasno da biju bitku koju ne mogu dobiti.

 

U vezi Al Baba, navodno postoji dogovor Erdogana i Putina da Al Bab uzme SAA, a da ES i SDF snage ostanu van grada. Napad sirijske avijacije na turske položaje pre tri dana, u kojem su poginula 3 turska vojnika, je navodno bio zbog toga što su Turci prekršili svoj deo dogovora, i otišli dalje nego što je dogovoreno. Oni tamo više ne napreduju sada, više se fokusiraju  na to da preseku put Manbij - Al Bab SDF snagama. Za to vreme, SAA ima neku koncentraciju snaga u okolini Kwereisa, pitanje je da li je to dovoljno za bilo šta.

[Prospero]