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Jedan prenet 'opinion' iz marta meseca koji je objavljen na Newsweeku... autor je član poznatog konzervativnog tt-a, zvanog "American Enterprise Institute".
 

OPINION
WILL THERE BE A COUP AGAINST ERDOGAN IN TURKEY?
BY MICHAEL RUBIN ON 3/24/16 AT 7:21 AM

The situation in Turkey is bad and getting worse.

It’s not just the deterioration in security amidst a wave of terrorism. Public debt might be stable, but private debt is out of control, the tourism sector is in free-fall and the decline in the currency has impacted every citizen’s buying power.

There is a broad sense, election results notwithstanding, that President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is out of control. He is imprisoning opponents, seizing newspapers left and right and building palaces at the rate of a mad sultan or aspiring caliph. In recent weeks, he has once again threatened to dissolve the constitutional court.

Corruption is rife. His son Bilal reportedly fled Italy on a forged Saudi diplomatic passport as the Italian police closed in on him in an alleged money laundering scandal.

His outbursts are raising eyebrows both in Turkey and abroad. Even members of his ruling party whisper about his increasing paranoia which, according to some Turkish officials, has gotten so bad that he seeks to install anti-aircraft missiles at his palace to prevent airborne men-in-black from targeting him in a snatch-and-grab operation.

Turks—and the Turkish military—increasingly recognize that Erdogan is taking Turkey to the precipice. By first bestowing legitimacy upon imprisoned Kurdish leader Abdullah Öcalan with renewed negotiations and then precipitating renewed conflict, he has taken Turkey down a path in which there is no chance of victory and a high chance of de facto partition.

After all, if civil war renews as in the 1980s and early 1990s, Turkey’s Kurds will be hard-pressed to settle for anything less, all the more so given the precedent now established by their brethren in Iraq and Syria.

Erdogan long ago sought to kneecap the Turkish military. For the first decade of his rule, both the U.S. government and European Union cheered him on. But that was before even Erdogan’s most ardent foreign apologists recognized the depth of his descent into madness and autocracy.

So if the Turkish military moves to oust Erdogan and place his inner circle behind bars, could they get away with it?

In the realm of analysis rather than advocacy, the answer is yes. At this point in election season, it is doubtful that the Obama administration would do more than castigate any coup leaders, especially if they immediately laid out a clear path to the restoration of democracy.

Nor would Erdogan engender the type of sympathy that Egyptian President Muhammad Morsi did. When Morsi was ousted, his commitment to democracy was still subject to debate.

That debate is now moot when it comes to the Turkish strongman. Neither the Republican nor Democratic front-runners would put U.S. prestige on the line to seek a return to the status quo ante. They might offer lip service against a coup, but they would work with the new regime.

Coup leaders might moot European and American human rights and civil society criticism and that of journalists by immediately freeing all detained journalists and academics and by returning seized newspapers and television stations to their rightful owners.

Turkey’s NATO membership is no deterrent to action: Neither Turkey nor Greece lost their NATO membership after previous coups. Should a new leadership engage sincerely with Turkey’s Kurds, Kurds might come onboard.

Neither European nor American public opinion would likely be sympathetic to the execution of Erdogan, his son and son-in-law, or key aides like Egemen Bağış and Cüneyd Zapsu, although they would accept a trial for corruption and long incarceration.

Erdoğan might hope friends would rally to his side, but most of his friends—both internationally and inside Turkey—are attracted to his power. Once out of his palace, he may find himself very much alone, a shriveled and confused figure like Saddam Hussein at his own trial.

I make no predictions, but given rising discord in Turkey as well as the likelihood that the Turkish military would suffer no significant consequence should it imitate Abdel Fattah el-Sisi’s game plan in Egypt, no one should be surprised if Turkey’s rocky politics soon get rockier.

Michael Rubin is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. A former Pentagon official, his major research areas are the Middle East, Turkey, Iran and diplomacy.

http://www.newsweek.com/will-there-be-coup-against-erdogan-turkey-439181?rx=us

 

[aram]

selim temurci, akp sef istambula, pozvao narod da ode na aerodrom da pruzi podrsku erdoganu

[Nesh]

[koksy]

Naravno da su srecni, pa ne uvodi se demokratija puskama svaki dan...

 

 

  dobar, dobar.

 

bez zajebancije: za koga navijamo, čisto da znam pošto se u Turke ič ne razumem?

[radisa]

 

John Kerry, the secretary of state, said he had heard the reports but could not comment. “I hope there will be stability and peace and continuity within Turkey,” he said while visiting Moscow.

Ned Price, spokesperson for the National Security Council at the White House, said: “The president’s national security team has apprised him of the unfolding situation in Turkey. The president will continue to receive regular updates.”

Turkey has the second biggest army in Nato after the US. It was a crucial ally during the cold war, although relations hit a bump in March 2003 when Turkey refused to let the US to invade Iraq from the north through Turkish territory.

Now they are military partners, albeit with significant political differences, in the fight against Islamic State. Last year Turkey agreed to let US warplanes and armed drones use the Incirlik air base, just 60 miles from the northwest Syrian border, to carry out raids against Isis. The aircraft had previously flown from Iraq or Arab allies such as Jordan.

Loss of the Turkish base would be a severe blow to the ongoing effort against Isis, especially after recent terrorist attacks within Belgium, France, Turkey and the US itself.

Turkey, which by the end of 2015 was hosting 2.5 million refugees, mostly from neighbouring Syria, has objected to US support for Kurdish forces operating in northern Syria against Isis. Washington has said it draws a clear distinction between the PKK, a foreign terrorist organisation, and the Syrian Kurds, whom it sees as one of many groups fighting Isis.

Mark Toner, deputy spokesperson for the US State Department, said last month: “Turkey is playing an important role with regard to Syria, with regard to the conflict there, both from the Assad regime as well as with Daesh [isis]. So I don’t want to underplay that. But they have, as many countries do within the coalition, sometimes different priorities, different ideas about how to go about that, and that’s something we’re in constant dialogue with them about and working to coordinate better.”

[radisa]

https://twitter.com/CNNTURK_ENG/status/754065399193493504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[Nesh]

https://twitter.com/Ali_Bahnasawy/status/754065888337338373

[aram]

[Marvin (Paranoid Android)]

Sad bio zanimljiv lajv snimak sa aerodroma - grupica ljudi ispred oklopnjaka i naoružanog vojnika, nešto pričaju s njim i mašu, nemoguće reći da li su protiv armije ili za, i odjednom pokazuju ostalima iza sebe "Ajmo vamo, prođimo, idemo", ulaze na aerodrom, vojnik silazi sa oklopnog u fazonu "zabole me kurac"

[Velocipede]

Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai 11m11 minutes ago

#BreakingNews #Breaking The Turkish Army orders its units to pull out of #Iraq (Ba'shiqa) positioned against #Baghdad's will,close to #Mosul

 

Koliko je ovo pouzdano i ako jeste, šta se dešava s tom teritorijom? Jesu tamo bili zajedno sa pešmergama?

[Nesh]

[Krošek]

dosta pouzdano

[aram]

navodno je "narod" preuzeo aerodrom u istambulu od vojske

[Marvin (Paranoid Android)]

navodno je "narod" preuzeo aerodrom u istambulu od vojske

 

Da, non stop ide snimak kako gomila ljudi stiže na aerodrom

[Muwan]

Sad bio zanimljiv lajv snimak sa aerodroma - grupica ljudi ispred oklopnjaka i naoružanog vojnika, nešto pričaju s njim i mašu, nemoguće reći da li su protiv armije ili za, i odjednom pokazuju ostalima iza sebe "Ajmo vamo, prođimo, idemo", ulaze na aerodrom, vojnik silazi sa oklopnog u fazonu "zabole me kurac"

Pogledaj ponovo ako ide snimak, sad ih je već jedno 10k. I da, to su ovi što se odazivaju na poziv. I da, 100% sam siguran da šampioni koji su izveli puč nisu na to računali.