Opšti topik o EU (ex kriza Evrozone)

[hazard]

Evo sada Kameron moze pricati kako VB nije izolovana... :D

[Roger Sanchez]

Evo sada Kameron moze pricati kako VB nije izolovana... :D

If it could only wipe this smirk ( :D ) off his face... Major/Thatcher, lomilo se danas. I bi Major! Edited January 30, 2012 by Roger Sanchez

[Anduril]

Mozda neko ima verodostojniji link ali nemacki Bild je juce preneo da spansko ministarstvo sporta namerava da nekako otpise dugove Realy (600mil) i Barseloni (400mil) kao i da oprosti neplacene poreze ligasa od oko 800mil. Teska vremena, nema se za leba i posao za mlade ali za basnoslovne ugovore uvek ima. Ako nesto moze da uzdrma EU onda su to ovakve vesti iz Grcke, Spanije i Italije gde tamosnji bogataski paraziti nastavljaju da skupljaju kajmak.

[spettacollo]

Kako mi je preneo drugar priču jednog od naših fudbalera u Primeri, igrače trenutno plaćaju Real i Barca, a igrače svih drugih timova španska država. Pokušavaju da održe Primeru u životu. Naravno, to je kao "pozajmica" koju će klubovi jednog lepog dana da vrate.

[MancMellow]

Mozda neko ima verodostojniji link ali nemacki Bild je juce preneo da spansko ministarstvo sporta namerava da nekako otpise dugove Realy (600mil) i Barseloni (400mil) kao i da oprosti neplacene poreze ligasa od oko 800mil. Teska vremena, nema se za leba i posao za mlade ali za basnoslovne ugovore uvek ima. Ako nesto moze da uzdrma EU onda su to ovakve vesti iz Grcke, Spanije i Italije gde tamosnji bogataski paraziti nastavljaju da skupljaju kajmak.

Daj postavi ovo na fudbal leba ti, da vidimo kakva je to "najbolja liga u Univerzumu" :D

[Sirius]

Kao sto sam i pricao da ce poceti da se desava:Nemci štrajkuju zbog malih plata

According to the DIW(German Institute for Economic Research), the average net wage has fallen by 2.5 percent in a decade. Average annual real income in 2000 was €1,429; 10 years later it was €1,394. Average gross income has declined even more.

Nemci su, negde, sredinom decenije zapoceli obaranje plata(German Real Wages Decline in 2006: Report). Medjutim, stampanje novca da bi se dalo Grcima, Italijanima, Spancima, Portugalcima, Ircima itd. ima svoju cenu-inflacija. I, sada to utice na standard Nemaca.Grke je trebalo pustiti na drahmu uz strogu kontrolu EU, tako bi se mnogo brze izvukli iz krize a Nemacka ne bi morala da trpi posledice inflacije. Doduse, bio bi jak sok i Sarkozi ne bi imao velike sanse na izborima, verovatno i Obama, ali bi dugorocno bilo mnogo bolje za sve. Ovako, problem je napumpan da bi se kratkorocno primirila situacija. Iako su u Spaniji prosle nedelje bili veliki protesti a Spanija je pomerila lestvicu za budzetski deficit-Spain Defies EU on Deficit .To kako u Briselu rade na duge staze nece ici.edit: dodato-u Edited March 20, 2012 by Sirius

[Sirius]

‘Worst Still to Come’ for Europe: Citi EconomistDespite high-profile measures such as the Greek debt deal and mass pumping of liquidity into the banking system, Europe’s problems have merely been delayed for another day, Willem Buiter, chief economist at Citi“We have really just paused for breath,” he said. “It (the long-term refinancing operation) really hasn’t solved the problem, and for Europe the worst is still to come.”He also predicted a further “large-scale ECB intervention” later this year or in early 2013. The European Central Bank [cnbc explains] injected close to 1 trillion euros ($1.3 trillion) through three-year loans at a very low interest rate into the European banking system in two operations in December and February.

[Sirius]

Socijaldemokrate kritikuju evropski finansijski paktLideri nemačke Socijaldemokratske partije, najveće opozicione stranke ocenili su da evropski sporazum o fiskalnoj disciplini sam po sebe ne znači ništa ukoliko nije praćen nekim novim "Maršalovim planom" koji bi stimulisao rast.

Stvarno cudno sto nema rasta kada se uvode novi porezi i povecava nezaposlenost:

Rekordna nezaposlenost u EvrozoniBrisel -- Nezaposlenost u 17 zemalja evrozone u februaru porasla je na 10,8 odsto, što je najviši nivo od kada je uvedena zajednička valuta 1999. godine.

Ali ako se nastampa jos malo, samo jos malo, bice mnogo bolje

[Sirius]

Syntagma Square Suicide Note Ends With Call To Young Greek People To "Hang The Traitors"State media has reported that Dimitris Christoulas, the man who took his own life using a pistol on Syntagma Square, in central Athens, on Wednesday morning, left a suicide note. "The Tsolakoglou government has annihilated all traces for my survival, which was based on a very dignified pension that I alone paid for 35 years with no help from the state. And since my advanced age does not allow me a way of dynamically reacting (although if a fellow Greek were to grab a Kalashnikov, I would be right behind him), I see no other solution than this dignified end to my life, so I don’t find myself fishing through garbage cans for my sustenance. I believe that young people with no future, will one day take up arms and hang the traitors of this country at Syntagma square, just like the Italians did to Mussolini in 1945" the note said.

http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/1/54580

[Sirius]

Something Really Bad Happened To The European Economy In April Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-european-economy-in-april-2012-5#ixzz1tiRwZloiSto je jos cudnije i Nemacka belezi lose rezultate: German Jobless Unexpectedly Up in April as Crisis Flared

[Muwan]

Economist kaže da Evrozona lagano ulazi u depresiju a raspala periferija joj je već tamo.

[Budja]

Economist kaže da Evrozona lagano ulazi u depresiju a raspala periferija joj je već tamo.

Jedan od komentara:Feeling a bit overdramatic today, are we? Stop hyperventilating, R.A.It's probably fair to call Greece a depression at this point. To say it's inevitable (under current policy) for Europe? That's a stretch.Quantitative easing hasn't helped the US much, but it's supposed to save Europe? Yes, I know, you claim it wasn't big enough in the US. That's debatable (at best).But your last three paragraphs are what's really troubling: "eyes wide open", "institutions that know how and why to prevent things from falling apart and which nonetheless sit back and do nothing." But the only logical conclusion of your overheated rhetoric (they know the consequences of their inaction and yet refuse to act) is that the ECB is acting (or rather, refusing to take action) because of deliberate malice.Do you actually believe that? If not (and I don't think you do), then dial down the rhetoric a bit.U svakom slucaju, uredjivacki stav The Economist-a je potpuno sizofren. U ovom clanku kazu too much austerity, u proslom broju podrzali Sarka je Oland 'oce da trosi. No, jedino sto je kontinuirano je da je stampanje para kul.

[Muwan]

Economistovi predlozi o tome šta bi trebalo raditi jesu šizofreni ali ako je nezaposlenost mladih u Španiji dostigla 50% to je depresija samo takva, i Evrozona neće uspeti da je prebrodi u jednom komadu.

[Аврам Гојић]

Grcka i formalno izasla iz stanja bankrota.

The Standard & Poor's ratings agency lifted Greece's credit grade out of default on Wednesday after the country completed a major debt writedown with private creditors.

Edited May 3, 2012 by Marko M. Dabovic

[Roger Sanchez]

Apropo današnjih rezultata u Nordrhein-Westphalenu, bit će odličan vic ako Angela otjera s vlasti kompletnu vladajuću garnituru svih EU bolesnika pokušavajući da sama ostane popularna, i onda na kraju popuši svoje izbore.