Hrvatsko mračnjaštvo ovaploćeno u radio mrežnici najavljuje preljevanje kaosa iz Irana, na red dolaze Irak i Turska.

1 hour ago, Caligula said:

@Mel ako koza laze rog ne laze. Procitaj ovo gore pa kazi kako se ne kuka za mulama ovde.

Moj savet ti je da se više držiš teme a manje forumaša. I onda će manje forumaša da te ne voli.

15 minutes ago, Rudolf Pingvinoglu said:

Dobro, Britanci su uvek imali pik na Krim, to je sve davna istorija i oni više nisu u EU, na moje zadovoljstvo. Tako da, kada pogledaš kakve su SAD danas, Rusija, Kina i ostali...ta EU je, bez obzira na licemerstvo, tromost birokratije, itd., i dalje svemirski brod za sve ostale što se tiče kakve-takve normalnosti i pristojnog života, i nama članstvo treba da bude visoko na listi prioriteta.

Sve zavisi kako gledaš.

Svemirsi brod, ali bez warp pogona (jbg nerd ostaje nerd)

Onda kada pogledaš

Ili

vidiš da su ozbiljne budale i da im ne treba dati da vode MZ a ne EU.

Israel Is Hunting Down Iranian Regime Members in Their Hideouts, One by One

The killings of two top officials mark milestones in a fierce campaign to bring down the Tehran government

Ali Larijani, Iran’s top security official, strolled confidently in dark sunglasses and a black coat Friday through a rally of regime loyalists in central Tehran. It was his first public appearance in a war in which he was a known target. “Brave people. Brave officials. Brave leaders. This combination cannot be defeated,” he wrote later on X.

Four days later, he was dead. Early Tuesday morning, Israel’s intelligence services found Larijani gathered with other officials at a hideout on the outskirts of Tehran and killed him with a missile strike.

That same night, Israel got a tip from ordinary Iranians that the leader of the feared Basij militia, Gholamreza Soleimani, was holing up with his deputies in a tent in a wooded area in Tehran. It was the sort of payoff Israel had been hoping for after blowing up Basij headquarters and command posts for more than two weeks, forcing its members to gather out in the open. Soleimani, too, was struck and killed.

Israeli and American leaders said at the outset that the war with Iran would create the conditions for Iranians to topple their regime. The killings early Tuesday were milestones in that campaign made possible by the fast-accumulating damage from airstrikes and a growing harvest of intelligence about possible targets.

With thousands of regime members killed—from top leaders to street-level grunts—Iranians are reporting that a sense of disorder is starting to take hold. Security forces are under stress and on the run as they threaten protesters to stay off the streets and direct strikes at the U.S., Israel and Arab neighbors across the Persian Gulf.

Detailed target lists and battle-damage reports viewed by The Wall Street Journal give an inside look at the enormous effort being deployed to wear them down.

The documents show the effort began in the early days of the war and continues to ramp up. Israel is chasing security forces from their headquarters to muster points then on to hide-outs under bridges in an effort to disrupt their activity and show Iranians that the enforcers are being taken out.

So far Israel says it has dropped 10,000 munitions on thousands of different targets, including more than 2,200 related to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Basij and other internal security forces. It believes thousands have been killed or wounded.

The advanced technology deployed by Israel and the penetration of Iranian society by its agents are combining to create the greatest threat yet to a deeply entrenched regime. 

But decades of military experience show it is difficult if not impossible to dislodge a government from the air. And if the Iranian regime survives, it could emerge emboldened and more dangerous. “It will be a clear victory for the regime with both predictable and unforeseen circumstances,” said Farzin Nadimi, an Iran-focused senior fellow with the Washington Institute, a U.S.-based think tank.

Israel began the war with a shot at the regime’s heart, killing Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei at his compound in the first salvo, and working with the U.S. quickly destroyed most of Iran’s missile launchers and wiped out its air defenses.

Then they divided responsibilities. The U.S. focused on Iran’s military and industrial power, and Israel went after the structures of internal control in earnest.

By the second day, Israeli warplanes were systematically hitting headquarters and command centers related to the Revolutionary Guard’s domestic security arms, the Basij militia and special police forces.

Documents reviewed by the Journal show the strikes targeted everything from the Tharallah—the Revolutionary Guard unit responsible for protecting the capital—down to neighborhood police stations in Tehran. Israel aimed for sites where Israeli intelligence had determined regime personnel were present.

The targets then broadened. Israeli intelligence learned that Iran had a fallback plan for its internal security forces in the event their facilities were destroyed—mustering at local sports complexes.

Israel watched the sites fill up and then hit them before the end of the first week. Those strikes, according to battle-damage assessments seen by the Journal, were among the deadliest of the war, killing hundreds of members of the security services and military, the vast majority at Azadi Stadium, a large venue for soccer games. 

Footage showed security officers lying on the pavement outside another stadium, according to videos verified by Storyful, a social-media intelligence firm owned by News Corp, the parent company of the Journal. 

Security personnel pushed into Gandhi hospital in Tehran and forced patients to make room for their wounded, one doctor said.

Iranian officials denounced the strikes as attacks on civilian targets, and Iranian state media published pictures of the aftermath but didn’t mention the presence of security forces.  

The Israeli military said it hit a Ministry of Intelligence command center operating out of an Iranian Electricity Co. compound in the heart of Tehran. Iranian state media said the strike killed several employees and engineers, and injured and killed several bystanders.

The attacks hurt rank-and-file morale and drove some security forces to begin sleeping in their vehicles, mosques or other sports facilities, Israel’s assessment said. 

Meanwhile, Israeli intelligence officials began placing calls to individual commanders, threatening them and their families by name if they didn’t stand aside in the event of an uprising, according to people familiar with the matter. 

The Journal reviewed the contents of one call between a senior Iranian police commander and an agent of the Mossad, Israel’s foreign-intelligence service.

“Can you hear me?” a Mossad agent can be heard, speaking in Farsi. “We know everything about you. You are on our blacklist, and we have all the information about you.” 

“OK,” the commander said in the recording.

“I called to warn you in advance that you should stand with your people’s side,” the Mossad agent said. “And if you will not do that, your destiny will be as your leader. Do you hear me?”

“Brother, I swear on the Quran, I’m not your enemy,” the commander said. “I’m a dead man already. Just please come help us.”

On the ground, Israel went after police warehouses, destroying computer equipment, vehicles and police gear, according to target lists seen by the Journal. Another target was motorcycle units, which have been central to efforts to suppress protests.

At one point, Israel struck around 34 different sites related to the internal-security forces in the Ilam Province, an area in western Iran near the Iraqi border with a large Kurdish population, according to a target list seen by the Journal.

The Iranian Kurds have a tense relationship with the central government and have their own armed groups. President Trump expressed support for an armed Kurdish offensive against Iran around the time of the strikes, but later reversed himself.

Last week, while Israeli officials were openly questioning whether air power alone could bring down the regime, the military was expanding its targets. 

Israel’s air force began operating fleets of loitering drones above Tehran and other areas of Iran, shifting its focus from command centers to individual Basij checkpoints and roadblocks. The drones hit dozens of targets, killing two to four security personnel at a time. 

The attacks were in many cases guided by tips sent by ordinary Iranians, Israeli security officials said. On Thursday, at least three different checkpoints were targeted, including at the Imam Reza Highway and on Shahed Street in northern Tehran.

More followed over the weekend. On Sunday night, Israeli forces conducted a targeted hunt for checkpoints, hitting 11, including in Enghelab and Azadi squares in Tehran and along a number of expressways. 

Iranians confirmed that attacks on checkpoints have been taking place.

The success of the Israeli campaign is difficult to assess independently. Iran has taken down the internet and is closely controlling information. People who share videos of damage have been arrested.

Israel has assessed that the air war is creating disrupting command and control and harming morale in the security forces. Iranians said they have seen security forces scramble for safe workspaces while hunted by Israeli jets and drones, taking over schools and sports facilities and civilian buildings.

The doctor in Tehran said police in Vanak, an affluent neighborhood of the capital, moved their checkpoint beneath a highway bridge to avoid being targeted. He said other forces pleaded with him to let them stay the night in his building. Several were sleeping in a nook by the stairs. He said he has also seen security forces set up tents or house themselves inside buses.

Other residents said many security officers are hiding in residential buildings. When they move in, the neighbors evacuate fearing a strike, one resident said.

Investigations into crimes like theft that happened before the war are in limbo with police forces under attack, some said.

One Tehran resident said a friend hasn’t been able to retrieve a car that was stolen and recovered by police before the war began, because there is no one at the police station to turn it over. Another said police told him and other shop owners to close before dark because they couldn’t guarantee their security.

Whatever fraying of authority, it is clear Iran’s security forces still have control of the streets and are keeping dissent at bay with threats to shoot to kill. Many Iranians said it would be suicide to rise up now and fear Israel and the U.S. will leave the regime intact but angrier.

Israel’s security establishment believes Iran’s crumbling economy and popular anger have put the regime on an irreversible path to collapse whether it happens during the war or down the road. Ultimately, though, it is a job Israel and the U.S. are putting on the Iranian people.

“They are seeing a decaying system before their eyes,” said Nadimi. “But it would take a lot more attacks to turn the tables.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-iran-leadership-528c6114

Arhiviran ceo članak:

https://archive.is/26v37

1 hour ago, Mel said:

Vizija je da je mula koji ubije 30.000 ljudi ali svojih gori milijardu puta ono >>> od random USA predsednika koji organizuje ubistvo miliona ali tudjeg.

Upravo si odvojila tesku patologiju od obicne patologije. Ali dzaba da ti se ista objasnjava, ne razumes pa to ti je.

'Leba vam, jel' možete da prestanete da odgovarate na ove bućke?

59 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Kako se prangija, bolje da se nadaju da ih ne zadesi sudba USS Liberty.

Druga su vremena, jedino sto je isto je false flag fenomen mada - iskreno - cenim da je USS Liberty postradao™ u pokusaju da se ne dozvoli da medjunarodna javnost (pre vremena) sazna sta se dogadja na terenu... Amerika, CCCP, UN i tako da to.

Zemlja na "I" zna koliko vredi cenzura kljucnih informacija u kljucna vremena.

59 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Kako se prangija, bolje da se nadaju da ih ne zadesi sudba USS Liberty.

Druga su vremena, jedino sto je isto je false flag fenomen mada - iskreno - cenim da je USS Liberty postradao™ u pokusaju da se ne dozvoli da medjunarodna javnost (pre vremena) sazna sta se dogadja na terenu... Amerika, CCCP, UN i tako da to.

Zemlja na "I" zna koliko vredi cenzura kljucnih informacija u kljucna vremena.

7 minutes ago, zorglub said:

'Leba vam, jel' možete da prestanete da odgovarate na ove bućke?

28 minutes ago, Zaboravan said:

Sve zavisi kako gledaš.

Svemirsi brod, ali bez warp pogona (jbg nerd ostaje nerd)

Onda kada pogledaš

Ili

vidiš da su ozbiljne budale i da im ne treba dati da vode MZ a ne EU.

Sve to stoji, ali birokratije dolaze i odlaze, otići će i Ursula, Kaja i onaj prodavac krompira iz Portugala. Ja pričam o konceptu, u najširem smislu, koji zaista jeste svemirski brod za ostale - pod uslovom da ostane ovakav kakav jeste što nije 100% sigurno, ali to je neka druga tema a ionako smo u off-u.

1 minute ago, Rudolf Pingvinoglu said:

Sve to stoji, ali birokratije dolaze i odlaze, otići će i Ursula, Kaja i onaj prodavac krompira iz Portugala. Ja pričam o konceptu, u najširem smislu, koji zaista jeste svemirski brod za ostale - pod uslovom da ostane ovakav kakav jeste što nije 100% sigurno, ali to je neka druga tema a ionako smo u off-u.

Razumem logiku ali da, nije prava tema tako da

IDF potvrdio za onog noćašnjeg ministra.

Edited March 18Mar 18 by vememah

30 minutes ago, Zaboravan said:

Hvala, valjda ne uspevam da razlučim versko/etničko.

Znači ona kapica je etničko a ne versko?

Sahrane uz čitanje Tore su... Tradicija? Motanje frižidera i sl u foliju, nema vožnje subotom je...

Nezgodno je to razlučiti. Da li estradna zvezda nosi krstaču na lancu zato što veruje u boga, ili po defaultu kao deo pravoslavne kulture?

Ždranje na sahranama, paljenje badnjaka za Božić i nepaljenje veš mašine na crveno slovo, to sve takođe može da se tumači kao znak verske ili etničke pripadnosti.

Izrael nije teokratija, ali su kulturni/etnički/nacionalni identitet gradili značajnim delom na verskim temeljima. Ali ja bih rekao da je značajniji deo tih temelja holokaust, tj. istorijska uloga žrtve koja posle daje carte blanche za svakakva mahnitanja.

Ovo je možda više za američku politiku u normalno vreme ali pošto se pričalo dosta o ovome i ovo je generalno jedan od uzroka za sve ovo jer pokazuje uticaj izraelskog lobija postovaću ovde.. A i pisao sam malo o situaciji oko demokratske stranke pre neki dan.

Naime sinoć su bili prajmariji u Ilinoju, jednoj od najjačih i najznačajnijih politički plavih država i pošto je bilo upražnjeno senat mesto a sigurno je plavo (Dik Durbin se penzioniše) bilo je mnogo kandidata u senat trci pa je izazvalo i downballot efekat sa dosta otvorenih House mesta u Čikagu ili okolini Čikaga (Ilinoj je odavno teško gerrymandered state, samo od strane demokrata) i sve su to sigurna mesta za Demokrate u novembru.. Uglavnom evo utisaka što se AIPAC uticaja tiče.

No group dominated the political conversation before the Illinois primaries more than AIPAC.

The pro-Israel lobby disguised some of its spending through new super PACs with innocuous and unrelated names — Elect Chicago Women and Chicago Progressive Partnership — and acknowledged its quasi-hidden hand only after the results were in.

All told, AIPAC-linked groups spent roughly $20 million in four House races, winning two and losing two.

AIPAC found success supporting Melissa Bean, a moderate former House member who won a primary against Junaid Ahmed, a progressive challenger, and it also backed Donna Miller, a Cook County commissioner who prevailed in a different district. Super PACs tied to AIPAC spent $8.4 million combined on those races.

But believe it or not, AIPAC-linked groups spent even more in the races they lost, laying out the most money in Illinois’s Ninth District.

In that race, the groups spent $4.4 million to support Laura Fine, a state senator, who finished in third place. They also spent $1.4 million opposing Daniel Biss, the Evanston mayor, and $1.2 million opposing a third candidate, Kat Abughazaleh, an outspoken Israel critic. One of the AIPAC-linked groups even made a last-minute gambit to promote a fourth candidate, Bushra Amiwala, who the group said after the election was “anti-Israel,” seemingly to siphon votes from Ms. Abughazaleh.

Mr. Biss won, and addressed AIPAC directly in his victory speech. “The Ninth District is not for sale,” he said.

And in the Seventh District, AIPAC’s main super PAC spent $5 million supporting Melissa Conyears-Ervin, the city treasurer of Chicago, who lost to La Shawn K. Ford, a state representative.

U Americi još nisu dogurali do toga da se prijave neki Mladi progresivci za Čikago kao u Kuli ali polako, stići će nekad i to.

Edited March 18Mar 18 by theanswer