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[noskich]

On 29.9.2021. at 22:19, adam said:

ljudi u severnoj koreji nemaju pasose, mnogi ne mogu da biraju poslove niti da se sele iz jednog kraja zemlje u drugi. zabranjeno im je da procitaju, vide ili cuju bila sta van domace proizvodnje. pomno ih se posmatra i u javnom i u privatnom prostoru i svako iskakanje iz sablona se kaznjava. ono sto mi smatramo ljudskim pravima, ljudi u severnoj koreji nemaju - a ono sto nemas ne moze biti violated. 

 

ako kim ne vlada silom i strahom vec postuje ljudska prava svojih sunarodnika, sto lepo ne otvori granice, pusti normalan protok informacija, podeli pasose i pusti narod da jednom za svagda zapusi usta zapadu tako sto ce ostati u domovini?

 

Posto si ocigledno veoma neinformisan pocni ovde:

https://www.youngpioneertours.com/can-north-koreans-travel/

 

https://www.ft.com/content/53eed94f-6cd5-4ed9-97a9-56de6eccf53c

 

100,000 overseas workers

Edited September 30, 2021 by noskich

[dragance]

Da, da. Koji moraju rezimu da daju dobar deo novca, a pod prismotrom su stalno.

[magi]

Nestorovic prica o Australiji od 9-og minuta.
 
 

Odslušao sam od 9og minuta pa do Orvela. Jel ima još Australije posle?

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[adam]

3 minutes ago, noskich said:

 

Posto si ocigledno veoma neinformisan pocni ovde:

https://www.youngpioneertours.com/can-north-koreans-travel/

i sta smo naucili iz clanka? mogu da putuju uz dozvolu drzave. da rade i studiraju al turisticki ne.

 

recimo neki idu da rade/studiraju u rusiju i kinu, neki idu na olimpijadu da se takmice, neki i fudbal igraju u odabranom inostranstvu kad drzava dozvoli. a sto se tice turistickih putovanja, i to smo stiklirali jer ti sto idu da rade po inostranstvima, u slobodno vreme setaju okolo i slikaju se bas kao da su dosli turisticki.

 

al eto, mogu da putuju po zemlji. ne bas gde zele nego imas odredjene destinacije i gradove koji se mogu posetiti. cak su u poslednje vreme dodali dva grada na spisak. ura i juhu!

 

ali ovo je ipak najbolje. ko ne moze da putuje?! eno i do njujorka su stigli.

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There is a small contingency of North Koreans living in New York City working at the countries mission to the United Nations.

 

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Izmestio si se u London? Ništa od piva za vakcinisane za par nedelja?
 
SaE

Samo da im je malo bolja klima... Ma ne, išli u turističku vizitu, pa širim neka zapažanja. Tu sam i dalje, 500m vazdužne linije od jednog council of concern i 1km od drugog. Život 'u enklavi'.

Svratim ovdje svakih par godina čisto da vidim gdje se noskich preselio i skrasio sa plutokratskom zaradom. Pjongjang, Hanoi, Harare ili Wuhan i da li ga grije sunce tuđeg neba k'o što ovo grije? Padne mi na pamet baš svaki put kad tržište nekretnina u Sidneju doživi osjetan pad...

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[peralozac]

Ćao Gledis, can I please say^TM da mi neće nedostajati tvoje KZŠ.

[iDemo]

Meni javio lokalni JP kaze - da znas novosti da se ne blamirash kad dodjesh kuci... 

[Gojko & Stojko]

 

Čovek na telefonu ceo dan i onda puf! Ja sam se ovome nadao još prošle godine, kako beše ono - "don't shag Mr. Shady". Neće mi nedostajati nimalo, samo mi je žao što će ko god sada dođe umesto nje (Stoks ili Perotet) da ima veće šanse na sledećim izborima od nje, tj. veće šanse da liberali ostanu na vlasti.

 

SaE

[Gojko & Stojko]

 

Bespuća australijskog fašizma, ili malo trezvenije - prilog raspravi između adama i noskicha, a za nas ostale, zašto nam treba savezni ICAC da se otresemo proroka sa Šajra:

Why Gladys Berejiklian resigned: Everything you need to know about ICAC inquiry into the departing NSW Premier

 

...

So why is she doing it?

It comes down to a few things and one of them is NSW's all-powerful corruption watchdog.

The Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) on Friday announced it was investigating whether Ms Berejiklian breached public trust when she awarded grants to several community organisations in the NSW Riverina region between 2012 and 2018. 

...

The ICAC is a body tasked to investigate alleged corrupt conduct in the NSW public sector, including members of Parliament.

In this instance, the watchdog will examine whether there was a conflict between Ms Berejiklian's public duties and private interests when she was in a relationship with former Liberal MP, Daryl Maguire.

Specifically, the ICAC will scrutinise grant funding awarded or promised to the Australian Clay Target Association and the Riverina Conservatorium of Music in Wagga Wagga, when Mr Maguire was the local member. 

It will also investigate whether Ms Berejiklian engaged in conduct that "involved the dishonest or partial exercise of any of her official functions" or if she refused to "exercise her duty to report any matter she suspected may concern corrupt conduct" concerning the activities of Mr Maguire. 

These questions will be the subject of a public inquiry which will commence later this month. 

...

 

 

SaE

[noskich]

Premocan je ICAC, malo sutra, ne zna se broja afera koje nisu nikada ni uzete u razmatranje, a i te sto su uzete od mnogih nije bilo nista.

Ne pricam napamet, licno sam bio krunski svedok u jednom ICAC sudjenju, dva dana isao da svedocim. I od svega nije bilo nista. Lik stavio sebi i ortaku u dzep oko milionceta, nema kriminalnog gonjenja, nema nista. Najgore sto je identican slucaj u istoj organizaciji bio pre par godina od toga i onda se opet ponovio. Oni kao bili napravili neku izmenu da se to ne bi desavalo i opet Jovo nanovo. 

 

Inace predlog za formiranje saveznog ICAC-a je koliko ono puta bio odbijen u parlamentu, bese 17?

Edited October 1, 2021 by noskich

[peralozac]

4 hours ago, Gojko & Stojko said:

Neće mi nedostajati nimalo

 

Mali slatki bonus - nije uspela da stekne uslov da se za tvoje dolare švrćka naokolo u penziji. U januaru bi napunila potrebnih 5 godina premijerovanja, ali avaj  

 

Spoiler

Why some Libs sniff an early exit for Berejiklian, but the timing is likely hers to choose

 

When January 23 ticks over next year, it will mark a major milestone for Gladys Berejiklian. The first female NSW premier to be elected in her own right will notch up five years in the job. Berejiklian already has the title of the second longest serving Liberal premier, only eclipsed by Robert Askin who was in power for a decade.

 

Five years will give Berejiklian perks that come with being a long-serving premier. The car, the driver, an office and staff. (Over the years, Nick Greiner and Bob Carr have each cost the taxpayer as much as $400,000 a year).

 

To stop his one-time opponent Kristina Keneally from receiving those sweeteners after her 15 months as Labor premier, the Liberals’ Barry O’Farrell, once in the job, introduced rules that a premier must be in power for five years before receiving any taxpayer-funded fringe benefits.

 

“There is no entitlement for short-term premiers,” O’Farrell declared in 2011. After years in opposition, O’Farrell might have thought he’d easily clock up five years. That wasn’t to be. He managed three before falling on his sword at the corruption watchdog over a vintage bottle of wine.

 

O’Farrell missed out but his protege, Berejiklian, could reap the benefits. In fact, many of her closest allies (as well as her adversaries) have been eying January 2022 as a likely exit date for Berejiklian. While the entitlements are unlikely to be a motivating force for her, with a host of milestones under her belt and a looming election it would be a logical time to hand over the reins.

 

The thinking has been that she could steer the state out of the latest COVID crisis, perhaps even emerging as the first Australian leader who managed to work out how we live with the virus. Then Berejiklian could give her successor, tipped to be Treasurer Dominic Perrottet, 12 months of clear air to campaign for a tilt at a fourth term for the Coalition in March 2023.

 

But that theory has hit a stumbling block. Berejiklian’s ministers are in a state of heightened anxiety over increasing talk that their leader is being hauled back before the Independent Commission Against Corruption to answer more questions about her disgraced former long-term boyfriend Daryl Maguire. So concerned are some ministers, they are convinced Berejiklian’s demise could be just weeks away.

 

This may be a case of her detractors willing it to happen, rather than it being a realistic prospect. Berejiklian has not confirmed she has been called to the ICAC (it would be illegal for her to do so). She has always maintained she is not a person of interest before the corruption watchdog. Pressed again on Wednesday about whether she was a focus of the ICAC, her response was forceful: “No!”

 

Also triggering concerns among her colleagues is her increasingly scattergun approach, not a usual Berejiklian trait. The Premier stunned everyone when she began a press conference last week with an announcement that her daily 11am COVID updates were ending. This need not have been a big deal, but she made it one.

 

Her decision only served to convince some of her more conspiratorial colleagues, who were already convinced she was about to face private hearings at the ICAC, that there was a more sinister reason behind her sudden change to the briefings. On Monday, Berejiklian was back for the 11am briefing. And again on Wednesday.

 

Her refusal to meet the mayors of the 12 Sydney COVID hotspots had also been an uncharacteristic political misstep. Berejiklian eventually met them this week, but Cumberland City mayor Steve Christou told ABC’s Radio National on Tuesday that she had been “dragged there kicking and screaming”. Christou said her invitation was only extended after Perrottet’s office stepped in and offered to meet them.

 

Berejiklian remains popular in the electorate. Published opinion polls predate the worst of the Delta outbreak, but the most recent Herald Resolve research had her as the preferred premier for 55 per cent of voters. It’s hard to imagine any other leader surviving a scandal such as she did. O’Farrell clearly didn’t think he could survive his.

 

Her popularity, and the fact she is female – there is no other senior Liberal woman in cabinet – make her male colleagues acutely aware that bringing on a leadership challenge would be a terrible look. So, Berejiklian stays until the time of her choosing. She survived ICAC round one. She may well assume she can survive another round.

 

The ICAC has brought down two Liberal premiers – Greiner and O’Farrell. The calculation among Berejiklian’s party supporters, perhaps presumptuously, is: Would the publicly funded watchdog risk a third?

 

If Berejiklian has any concerns about further ICAC hearings, she has not revealed them to her cabinet. One senior minister describes it this way: “She has dug in like a tick. She is as tough as an old boot but also as stubborn as a mule.”

 

An ICAC hearing may well be wishful thinking on the part of some colleagues but Berejiklian’s internal support is starting to erode. Increasingly viewed as isolated from much of her ministry, even her supporters fear the government is directionless. If that view cannot be reversed, the Premier will find herself in an impossible position. And that may be the factor influencing her decision: stay or go.

 

Tekst je pomalo bajat (pisan pre dve nedelje), ali početni pasusi su zanimljivo istorijsko štivo. 

[Gojko & Stojko]

1 minute ago, peralozac said:

 

Mali slatki bonus - nije uspela da stekne uslov da se za tvoje dolare švrćka naokolo u penziji. U januaru bi napunila potrebnih 5 godina premijerovanja, ali avaj  

 

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Why some Libs sniff an early exit for Berejiklian, but the timing is likely hers to choose

 

When January 23 ticks over next year, it will mark a major milestone for Gladys Berejiklian. The first female NSW premier to be elected in her own right will notch up five years in the job. Berejiklian already has the title of the second longest serving Liberal premier, only eclipsed by Robert Askin who was in power for a decade.

 

Five years will give Berejiklian perks that come with being a long-serving premier. The car, the driver, an office and staff. (Over the years, Nick Greiner and Bob Carr have each cost the taxpayer as much as $400,000 a year).

 

To stop his one-time opponent Kristina Keneally from receiving those sweeteners after her 15 months as Labor premier, the Liberals’ Barry O’Farrell, once in the job, introduced rules that a premier must be in power for five years before receiving any taxpayer-funded fringe benefits.

 

“There is no entitlement for short-term premiers,” O’Farrell declared in 2011. After years in opposition, O’Farrell might have thought he’d easily clock up five years. That wasn’t to be. He managed three before falling on his sword at the corruption watchdog over a vintage bottle of wine.

 

O’Farrell missed out but his protege, Berejiklian, could reap the benefits. In fact, many of her closest allies (as well as her adversaries) have been eying January 2022 as a likely exit date for Berejiklian. While the entitlements are unlikely to be a motivating force for her, with a host of milestones under her belt and a looming election it would be a logical time to hand over the reins.

 

The thinking has been that she could steer the state out of the latest COVID crisis, perhaps even emerging as the first Australian leader who managed to work out how we live with the virus. Then Berejiklian could give her successor, tipped to be Treasurer Dominic Perrottet, 12 months of clear air to campaign for a tilt at a fourth term for the Coalition in March 2023.

 

But that theory has hit a stumbling block. Berejiklian’s ministers are in a state of heightened anxiety over increasing talk that their leader is being hauled back before the Independent Commission Against Corruption to answer more questions about her disgraced former long-term boyfriend Daryl Maguire. So concerned are some ministers, they are convinced Berejiklian’s demise could be just weeks away.

 

This may be a case of her detractors willing it to happen, rather than it being a realistic prospect. Berejiklian has not confirmed she has been called to the ICAC (it would be illegal for her to do so). She has always maintained she is not a person of interest before the corruption watchdog. Pressed again on Wednesday about whether she was a focus of the ICAC, her response was forceful: “No!”

 

Also triggering concerns among her colleagues is her increasingly scattergun approach, not a usual Berejiklian trait. The Premier stunned everyone when she began a press conference last week with an announcement that her daily 11am COVID updates were ending. This need not have been a big deal, but she made it one.

 

Her decision only served to convince some of her more conspiratorial colleagues, who were already convinced she was about to face private hearings at the ICAC, that there was a more sinister reason behind her sudden change to the briefings. On Monday, Berejiklian was back for the 11am briefing. And again on Wednesday.

 

Her refusal to meet the mayors of the 12 Sydney COVID hotspots had also been an uncharacteristic political misstep. Berejiklian eventually met them this week, but Cumberland City mayor Steve Christou told ABC’s Radio National on Tuesday that she had been “dragged there kicking and screaming”. Christou said her invitation was only extended after Perrottet’s office stepped in and offered to meet them.

 

Berejiklian remains popular in the electorate. Published opinion polls predate the worst of the Delta outbreak, but the most recent Herald Resolve research had her as the preferred premier for 55 per cent of voters. It’s hard to imagine any other leader surviving a scandal such as she did. O’Farrell clearly didn’t think he could survive his.

 

Her popularity, and the fact she is female – there is no other senior Liberal woman in cabinet – make her male colleagues acutely aware that bringing on a leadership challenge would be a terrible look. So, Berejiklian stays until the time of her choosing. She survived ICAC round one. She may well assume she can survive another round.

 

The ICAC has brought down two Liberal premiers – Greiner and O’Farrell. The calculation among Berejiklian’s party supporters, perhaps presumptuously, is: Would the publicly funded watchdog risk a third?

 

If Berejiklian has any concerns about further ICAC hearings, she has not revealed them to her cabinet. One senior minister describes it this way: “She has dug in like a tick. She is as tough as an old boot but also as stubborn as a mule.”

 

An ICAC hearing may well be wishful thinking on the part of some colleagues but Berejiklian’s internal support is starting to erode. Increasingly viewed as isolated from much of her ministry, even her supporters fear the government is directionless. If that view cannot be reversed, the Premier will find herself in an impossible position. And that may be the factor influencing her decision: stay or go.

 

Tekst je pomalo bajat (pisan pre dve nedelje), ali početni pasusi su zanimljivo istorijsko štivo. 

Znam, čitao sam kad je bio u novinama. Moja žena je večeras gleda u vestima i prva stvar koju kaže da izgleda kao da je plakala celu noć.

 

SaE

[Random]

Meni je pomalo krivo zato što je iz jedne imigrantske porodice, a do svoje pete godine nije znala da izgovori nijednu riječ engleskog i pored toga što je rođena u Australiji. Školovana u državnoj, a ne privatnoj školi. Mogla možda i dogurati do pozicije PM-a ko zna...

Opraštam joj 'ružnu prošlost' i bespotrebno rušenje i građenje stadiona. Bilo je propusta u posljednjih godinu i po, ali je definitivno NSW vodio opušteniju covid politiku od drugih saveznih država. A i konferencije za štampu su bile prijatnije za gledanje od kolege joj s južne pruge.

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45 minutes ago, noskich said:

Premocan je ICAC, malo sutra, ne zna se broja afera koje nisu nikada ni uzete u razmatranje, a i te sto su uzete od mnogih nije bilo nista.

Ne pricam napamet, licno sam bio krunski svedok u jednom ICAC sudjenju, dva dana isao da svedocim. I od svega nije bilo nista. Lik stavio sebi i ortaku u dzep oko milionceta, nema kriminalnog gonjenja, nema nista. Najgore sto je identican slucaj u istoj organizaciji bio pre par godina od toga i onda se opet ponovio. Oni kao bili napravili neku izmenu da se to ne bi desavalo i opet Jovo nanovo. 

 

Inace predlog za formiranje saveznog ICAC-a je koliko ono puta bio odbijen u parlamentu, bese 17?

 

Bravo za svedočenje. Zanimljiv izveštaj. Koga zanima, samo turite Noskič + ICAC u gugl, izveštaj u pdf-u je prvi rezultat.

 

Za ovo ostalo - ima li u tvom svetu još boja osim crne i bele? Mislim, kakav god da je, živeo nam bar danas ICAC, dade Gledis ostavku! Opusti se i proveseli malo, nisi @Moracikus pa da od tuge nosiš crni flor i slušaš samo ozbiljnu muziku na radiju      

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22 minutes ago, Random said:

Meni je pomalo krivo zato što je iz jedne imigrantske porodice, a do svoje pete godine nije znala da izgovori nijednu riječ engleskog i pored toga što je rođena u Australiji. Školovana u državnoj, a ne privatnoj školi. Mogla možda i dogurati do pozicije PM-a ko zna...

 

Dobro dosta je bilo, omekšaćeš mi srce ovakvim stvarima . Nisam znao.