Grčka - enormni dug, protesti oko mera štednje

[vememah]

Izbrkao si podatke, zvanična izlaznost je u januaru bila 63,6% (po spisku), realn(ij)a (po popisu) oko 70%.

 

Uglavnom, nebitno. Suština je u tome da će se neodlučni dosta teško vratiti Sirizi, jer sama činjenica da su neodlučni govori o tome da ih njihovo vođenje politike nije zadovoljilo.

 

Još malo iz raznih anketa, evo kako izgleda raspodela glasača u odnosu na januarske izbore, trećina Sirizinih birača iz januara otišla je u neodlučne, a još 17% bi sad glasalo za druge stranke, tako da su izgubili više od polovine januarskih glasača. Ipak, imaju i prilive, desetak posto januarskih glasača Pasoka i Komunističke partije bi sada glasalo za Sirizu.

 

Veće osipanje od Sirize imaju samo Anel koji je ostao na svega četvrtini januarskih glasača (dobar deo je otišao u neodlučne, a od ostatka su najviše profitirali Unija centrista (EK) i Zlatna zora (XA)) i Potami. Lafazanisovo otcepljeno Narodno jedinstvo dobija birače samo od Sirize.

 

Najmanje osipanje imaju komunisti, neonacisti iz Zlatne zore i Nova demokratija.

 

Stranke po redu: Siriza, Nova demokratija, Zlatna zora, Potami, Komunistička partija, ANEL (Nezavisni Grci), Pasok (zadnji u levoj legendi), Narodno jedinstvo, Unija centrista, Drugo, Neodlučni.

 

Ocene šefova stranaka, po redu Siriza, Nova demokratija, Zlatna zora, Potami, Komunistička partija, ANEL, Pasok, Narodno jedinstvo (crveno negativno, sivozeleno pozitivno, tamnije nijanse za epitet "veoma"):

Prvak opozicije Meimarakis uopšte ne stoji tako loše. Zanimljivo je i da je Teodorakis iz Potamija prilično dobro ocenjen uprkos činjenici da 62% januarskih glasača više ne bi glasalo za tu stranku.

 

Izvor: ProRata anketa za Efimerida ton syntakton

 

Kretanje ocena Ciprasa (mart, maj, avgust):

 

Očekivani pobednik izbora:

Siriza (60,3%), Nova demokratija (19,4%), ne znam (17,4), neka druga stranka (2,9).

 

Izvor Marc anketa za Alpha TV

 

Dogovor sa kreditorima je:

Opcije odozgo naniže: vrlo pozitivan, uglavnom pozitivan, uglavnom negativan, vrlo negativan, ne znam

 

Izvor: MRB anketa

Edited August 29, 2015 by vememah

[pacey defender]

Kucamo na vrata zaboravljenih asova: Varufakis bi stopama Vuka Jeremića, Grčka je premala za njegovu megalomaniju.

 

Meni je ovo super koncept. Problem je što Varufakis nema kredibilitet za panevropsku priču, budući da je za vreme svog ministrovanja dosta jeo patriotska govna. 

 

Otprilike kao Jeremić, dobro si se toga setio. Samo što je Jeremić ipak slabiji igrač i manji kapacitet.

[hazard]

Ja bih rekao da je Jeremić veštiji političar i da ume bolje da se snalazi među političarima, diplomatama, međunarodnim birokratama itd. nego Varufakis. Ne da je to nešto što mu ide na čast, samo kažem...

[Budja]

Bog te jebo, kakvo politicko srozavanje.

 

 

“Whoever wants to mourn, can mourn,” he said at party conference in Athens. “Whoever wants to escape has the right to escape. We are moving forward, only forward.”

“Only forward” will also be SYRIZA’s slogan during the brief election campaign.

[hazard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2TZyu1-ez4

[vememah]

Ja bih rekao da je Jeremić veštiji političar i da ume bolje da se snalazi među političarima, diplomatama, međunarodnim birokratama itd. nego Varufakis. Ne da je to nešto što mu ide na čast, samo kažem...

 

U prilog tome:

 

"Fakis, Fakis," the militant socialists chanted in Frangy-en-Bresse, in France, on Sunday (23 August). The annual "Fête de la Rose", a gathering regularly attended by France's former finance minister Arnaud Montebourg, has taken place since 1972.

 

Once the scourge of the Eurogroup, the rock star economist Yanis Varoufakis was visibly delighted to be in the village of Frangy (dubbed Frangis in his honour), despite the rain, and to launch a fresh attack on European leaders and the current Greek government.

...

Yanis Varoufakis told EurActiv that the emergence of an allied European left, in opposition to the current system, was a possibility.

 

"I believe that an alliance of Europeans from across the political spectrum, who share one radical idea, the idea of democracy, is possible," he joked. "For 20 years, the principle of democracy has been trampled on in Europe. But it remains a common idea. If we want to make the transition to a democratic Europe, we need to empower the citizens, rather than the current cartel of lobbies."

 

This view was shared by his host. Arnaud Montebourg said, "Power is held by an oligarchy in Europe."

 

The organisers of the Fête de la Rose had hoped that the occasion's European outlook would lead to the emergence of a new European movement. But not a single MEP or representative from the radical left party was present. Even the French "rebels", who openly criticise the government, preferred not to appear alongside Yanis Varoufakis.

 

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/euro-finance/varoufakis-greek-deal-was-coup-detat-317012

Edited August 29, 2015 by vememah

[Budja]

Ma, vise lici na Zizeka nego na Jeremica.

Drustveni celebrity komentator, kakav crni politicar.

Samo sto je Zizekova tuga pregolema, i jos veruje u bivseg Varufakisovog sefa.

[vememah]

Cipras u epizodi "Complete denial":

 

Addressing party officials for the first time since calling the September 20 poll, the former prime minister insisted that voters would back the leftwing Syriza party “because it fought hard . . . took the [bailout] negotiations down to the wire . . . and showed the courage and will to stand firm”.

 

Čovek ima problema da zauzda i ove što nisu otišli sa Lafazanisom:

 

His message to the weekend meeting was undermined by infighting among senior party officials, reflecting Syriza’s disarray in the wake of mass defections last week to Popular Unity, a new radical party led by the former energy minister Panagiotis Lafazanis, according to people who were present at the event on Saturday.

In another blow to the Syriza leader’s authority, a usually loyal party faction known as the “Group of 53”, which includes several former cabinet ministers, circulated a document at the meeting sharply criticising the premier’s decision last month to make a policy “somersault” and agree to a third rescue package totalling €86bn after months of tense negotiations.

“We need to come up with a persuasive alternative plan . . . that will lead us out of the memorandum [bailout agreement],” the document said.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/21bd2438-4f2f-11e5-8642-453585f2cfcd.html

Edited August 30, 2015 by vememah

[vememah]

 Lafazanis dobio očekivano pojačanje.

 

Zoe Konstantopoulou, the Speaker in the outgoing Parliament, announced Monday she will take part in the September 20 election with Popular Unity, the Syriza splinter party headed by Panagiotis Lafazanis.

http://en.enikos.gr/ekloges-2015/34255,Ex-speaker-Konstantopoulou-announces-candidacy-with-Popular-Unity.html

[vememah]

Ovonedeljna Alco anketa kaže da Siriza beži Novoj demokratiji svega pola posto (29,2:28,7), znatno manje nego u prošlonedeljnoj (29,3:27,4). Trend je jasan.

 

Izašle su još dve ankete, po još jednoj se ove dve stranke voze u 1% razlike (31:30), a po drugoj je razlika čak 3,6% (26,5:22,9).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_legislative_election,_September_2015#Opinion_polls

[vememah]

A evo i prve u kojoj je ND ispred Sirize:
 
 

Opinion poll: New Democracy edges ahead

2 September 2015 - 22:58 Athens, 19:58 GMT
 
For the first time since well before the January 2015 election conservative New Democracy appears to be leading left-wing Syriza, in the latest opinion poll released Wednesday.
 
The margin, 25.3% to 25%, is well within the margin of error, which, for these surveys is typically around 3%, but it is part of a trend. Most of the polls released over the weekend and since show the two parties neck-and-neck and are far from the dounble-digit leads Syriza held until July.
 
The poll, by research firm GPO, forecasts a 9-party parliament, up from the 7 in the previous one (at least until the defection of Syriza leftists under Popular Unity). The extreme right Golden Dawn is third with 5.5%, followed by socialist PASOK (5.3%), the Communist Party (5%), centrist To Potami (4.6%), part of whose voters seem to be going over to New Democracy, Popular Unity (4%), Union of Centrists (3.2%), and the Independent Greeks (3%). The undecided are 12.8% of total respondents.
 
A party must obtain 3% to enter Parliament. The more parties in Parliament, the more difficult is for the winner to form an overall majority, despite the hefty 50-seat bonus given by the lectoral law. New Democracy is far from the parliamentary majority threshold, which should be slightly less than 40%.
 

 
Also for the first time, New Democracy leader Evangelos Meimarakis is more popular than outgoing prime minister Alexis Tsipras, with 44.3% of favorable opinions to 41.9% for Tsipras.
 
http://en.enikos.gr/ekloges-2015/34361,Opinion-poll-New-Democracy-edges-ahead-.html

 

 

[Prospero]

Valjda je sasvim logično pitanje "koji će nam kurac Siriza ako smo progutali 3. bejlaut i osteriti? Daj bolje originalne primenjivače™ mera trojke, tj. ND".

Edited September 2, 2015 by Prospero

[aram]

kakve je prognoze research firm GPO dala za referendum?

[vememah]

Vrlo je nebitna jedna agencija i jesu li u ovom trenutku stvarno ispred, bitno je hoće li se trend (koji je prilično očigledan, dovoljno je pogledati hronološki složene ankete - od 4 ovonedeljne samo po jednoj Siriza ima prednost veću od 1% u odnosu na ND, dok je po prošlonedeljnim ta prednost bila dosta veća) nastaviti do izbora do kojih ima još više od dve nedelje.

Edited September 2, 2015 by vememah

[vememah]

Današnja reakcija iz Sirizinog dnevnika Avgi i tabloida KontraNews vrlo bliskog Sirizi:
 

AVGHI: (New Democracy leader Evangelos) Meimarakis: 'Useless' cleaners, teachers, school guards

KONTRA NEWS: New fraud from Mega TV. New Democracy first party and its leader Evangelos Meimarakis preferred prime minister

http://www.amna.gr/english/category.php?id=2723

Koliko sam pratio, ovi dnevnici dosad nisu imali kao udarnu vest Novu demokratiju i njenog lidera, odnosno nisu se bavili komentarisanjem anketa.

Edited September 3, 2015 by vememah