vememah Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Ti znači misliš da su samo nesposobni, ne i osvetoljubivi? Seti se da je Ciprasa dočekao prazan Megaro Maximou bez kompjutera, pa čak i sapuna. 30 anarhista opljačkalo atinsku samoposlugu, ostavilo OXI letke i podelilo prolaznicima opljačkanu hranu pre nego što su pobegli: http://www.ekathimerini.com/198886/article/ekathimerini/news/leaflet-throwing-youths-loot-athens-supermarket Evropski bailout fond EFSF proglasio da je Grčka u defaultu i zadržao pravo da zatraži prevremeno vraćanje evropskih zajmova u visini od 131 milijardu evra. The euro zone’s rescue fund, Greece’s largest creditor, said on Friday it reserved the right to call in €130.9 billion in debt ahead of schedule after Athens defaulted this week on an International Monetary Fund loan. http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/eu-fund-says-it-reserves-right-to-call-in-130bn-greek-debt-early-1.2272423 Cipras danas održao novi govor na televiziji i tražio otpis 30% duga i grejs period od 20 godina na ostatak, baš u skladu sa onim Varufakisovim da će se za sat vremena dogovoriti sa kreditorima. 246 profesora ekonomije sa grčkih univerziteta podržalo NAI opciju. We are already at the first stage of a very slippery process that, if not urgently reversed, will lead to a chaotic debt default and exit from the Eurozone. http://www.ekathimerini.com/198826/article/ekathimerini/news/declaration-of-professors-of-economics-at-greek-universities-on-the-referendum Nemačko javno mnjenje (ARD DeutschlandTrend i ZDF PolitBarometer): Grci sami krivi za eskalaciju krize, kaže 68% Nemaca, samo 4% vidi krivicu isključivo u zemljama Evrozone, a 24% misli da su krivi i jedni i drugi. 70% Nemaca misli da Šojble radi dobar posao, što je bolji procenat nego za Merkelovu koja ima 67%. 57% misli da će Grci glasati NAI na referendumu, tj. protiv volje svoje vlade, a 85% ih misli da je EU u pravu što im nije dodatno popustila (slajdovi u spojleru). Edited July 3, 2015 by vememah
Prospero Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Cipras danas održao novi govor na televiziji i tražio otpis 30% duga i grejs period od 20 godina na ostatak, baš u skladu sa onim Varufakisovim da će se za sat vremena dogovoriti sa kreditorima. Mislim da je pošteno da MMF otpiše svojih 27 milijardi € potraživanja, za početak, kad ionako smatraju da neko brijanje mora da padne. Ili to pišu jer se nadaju da će otpis i novi paket od 60ak milijardi € zapravo omogućiti grčkoj da isplati dug prema MMFu u celosti. -_- Edited July 3, 2015 by Prospero
MancMellow Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 DIE ZEIT Everywhere across the continent today, divisions are breaking out and not just within the monetary union. Many British want out of the E.U. Fewer refugees should be allowed to make it to Europe. Right-wing populists stirring are up hatred against other Europeans. Hungary’s government is planning a four-meter high wall on the border with its neighbor, Serbia. That is why the vote on whether Greece keeps the euro or not isn’t just an economic decision. It is about much more. If the promise to stand by one another no longer holds true, it could tear the continent apart. That is why you now have a huge opportunity. If you decide to stay in the euro, an enormous responsibility will result for all the citizens of the other countries. They then will also have to do much more for Europe. This is a wonderful democratic moment. You can now conclude a pact with the heads of government of the creditor nations much more directly than by any vote. This also would completely change the responsibilities placed on Angela Merkel and Wolfgang Schäuble. If Greece stays in the euro, there most likely will have to be a debt rescheduling and an investment program. We all will have to be patient with one another, much more than before. That is why it is not only critical how the Greek people will vote, but also how Europeans and we Germans react to it. http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2015-07/greece-future-letter-referendum
Prospero Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Videćemo kako će nemačka demokratija da primi rezultate grčke: Btw, grčki sud je odbio onaj zahtev za blokiranjem referenduma, it's a go! Edited July 3, 2015 by Prospero
MancMellow Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Dobro, stonokazu, da sacekamo prvo rezultate. Syriza tj Tsip & Vfakis mozda nemaju vise prijatelje u EU, ali mnijem da Grcka jos uvek ima Edited July 3, 2015 by MancMellow
Tribun_Populi Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 Syriza tj Tsip & Vfakis mozda nemaju vise prijatelje u EU Kao da su ih nekad imali.
vememah Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 MMF bi najradije da ga Evropljani isplate i da se zaboravi na tu tužnu Stros Kanovu epizodu.U međuvremenu, sud je odobrio referendum. Tviteraši na osnovu Cakalotosove današnje izjave zaključuju da je Cipras izabrao svoju partiju umesto naroda: Po ovoj anketi manje od 50% Grka misli da referendum ima realne veze sa Grexitom:
MancMellow Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) MMF je generalno u pravu. Evropljani tj Merkel konkretno su cimali njih, a ne vice versa Elem Another opinion poll, from the Proto Thema website, shows the ‘Yes’ camp at 41.7% while the ‘No’ camp is at 41.1% and 10.7% are undecided. The poll was conducted by Alco on behalf of the Proto Thema newspaper. Pakao Edited July 3, 2015 by MancMellow
vememah Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Varufakis za Channel 4 - već dobijamo znatno bolje predloge, jedva čekam da OXI pobedi pa da ih prihvatim: https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/vb.6622931938/10153050793226939/?type=2&theater Anarhisti se sukobljvaju sa pandurima na Sintagmi gde je trebalo da počne završni OXI miting (NAI miting je na Panatinaikosovom stadionu): Grčkim turistima u inostranstvu su blokirane kartice, paru na bračnom putovanju u Njujorku je pomogla crkva. http://www.swr3.de/aktuell/nachrichten/Griechen-auf-Hochzeitsreise-in-New-York-ohne-Geld/-/id=47428/did=3355798/1j9g3ff/index.html Tajmlajn za nedelju: EDIT: Izgleda da su sukobi bili na margini OXI mitinga. Prenos: ECB ispituje je li Grčka u defaultu i prema njoj, navodno je trebalo da krajem juna vrati zajam od 470 miliona evra iz daleke '93, što bi moglo da ima posledice po ELA. Kongresmeni i senatori pritiskaju Lagard: Edited July 3, 2015 by vememah
Budja Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 To. Ta omladina ce ili na ulicu da se tuku ili ce jednostavno u pecalbu.
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