Izrael, Palestina i arapske zemlje

[Krošek]

Black Mirror's post on the Parapsihopatologija forum serves as a revealing case study in the dynamics of online discourse, particularly when personal grievances and emotional frustrations intersect with broader social issues. Analyzing this post through the lens of its context, motivations, and implications provides valuable insights into the nature of online interactions and the challenges of maintaining constructive dialogue in digital spaces.

Comprehensive Analysis

1. Context of the Post: Black Mirror's comments were made in a thread discussing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a topic that inherently carries significant emotional weight and complexity. By diverting the conversation to personal grievances and critiques of other forum members, the post not only strays off-topic but also disrupts the intended discourse. This shift in focus undermines the potential for meaningful discussion about the conflict itself.
2. Dominance of Personal Grievance: The core motivation behind Black Mirror's lengthy and emotionally charged post appears to be personal grievance. His history of being banned from the forum for previous disruptive posts likely informs his emotional tone and the narrative he constructs, which seeks to position himself as a morally superior voice in a community he perceives as hypocritical. This self-serving narrative detracts from the validity of his criticisms.
3. Desire for Validation: Throughout the post, there is a clear desire for validation. Black Mirror frames his frustrations within the context of perceived injustices, seeking to portray himself as a victim of moral double standards. This need for validation is compounded by his feelings of exclusion and marginalization, which further fuels his emotional response and the inflammatory nature of his statements.
4. Critique of Moral Hypocrisy: While Black Mirror attempts to critique the moral hypocrisy of other forum members, this critique is superficial given his own behavior and motivations. His position as someone who has previously expressed inflammatory views undermines his credibility to judge others. Instead of fostering a constructive dialogue about morality, his comments reflect a projection of his own frustrations and grievances.
5. Frustration and Misogyny: Embedded within the post is a deep frustration, particularly regarding the perceived lack of sympathy from women on the forum. This frustration is rooted in patriarchal expectations that women should inherently care for children. When these expectations are unmet, it reinforces Black Mirror's grievances and contributes to the misogynistic undertones present in his statements. This aspect of the post not only alienates female users but also detracts from the overall discourse.
6. Conspiracy Thinking: The post reflects a conspiratorial mindset, suggesting that a specific group is manipulating global events and undermining humanity's achievements. This narrative of victimization serves to further justify his grievances and emotional outbursts, while simultaneously diverting attention from the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
7. Emotional Appeal and Disruption: The charged language and emotional appeal in Black Mirror's post aim to provoke a reaction rather than foster constructive dialogue. This approach disrupts the forum's atmosphere, making it less conducive to friendly banter and meaningful discussions. The post exemplifies how personal frustrations can overshadow collective discourse, leading to a toxic environment.
8. Impact on Community Dynamics: By introducing personal grievances and inflammatory rhetoric, Black Mirror's post disrupts the community dynamics of the forum. It shifts the focus away from shared discussions on significant issues, fostering division and conflict among members instead of unity and understanding.

Conclusion

In summary, Black Mirror's post serves as a multifaceted expression of personal grievance, frustration, and critique of community dynamics within the Parapsihopatologija forum. His experiences with moderation and feelings of marginalization inform his critique of the community's dynamics and the selective outrage he observes. However, his position is undermined by his own history of disruptive behavior and the superficial nature of his moral critique. The post reflects broader themes of emotional expression, validation, and the challenges of maintaining constructive dialogue in online spaces. Understanding this context is essential for interpreting the motivations and sentiments expressed in the post, as it highlights the emotional and ideological dimensions of Black Mirror's frustrations while underscoring the difficulties of fostering meaningful discourse in digital environments.

[duma]

??? 

Prijavio si ga višoj instanci, pa prenosiš odgovor? 

Zanimljivo je da je danas mizogonija, ako kažete da žene više potresa stradanje dece. 

[Krošek]

Ne, mizoginija je ako kažete da žene, koje više potresa stradanje dece, jer svi znamo sta 1 zene treba da misle, osecaju i rade kao pripadnice neznijeg pola, a to je da paze na decu, ako se ne ponasaju onako kako ja kazem da treba, kada treba i u obimu koji treba (gde su ako ne hiljade strana ono bar stotine zenskih narikackih postova), zasluzuju da ih se nazove laznim moralistima neosetljivima na zlocine, tolerantnima na decije leseve, koje kao takve ne zasluzuju respekt. Mizoginija podstaknuta dubokim pacenickim frustom u odsustvu bolje ideje kako doci do osecaja validacije.

 

Zene, naricite, inace cu da nonsalantno retoricki instrumentalizujem hiljade decjih leseva preko vasih ledja da objasnim svoju moralnu superiornost, inace ripekt za zgrozenu bracu

 

AI prozeo

 

[black mirror]

On 24. 7. 2024. at 19:49, Krošek said:

Black Mirror's post on the Parapsihopatologija forum serves as a revealing case study in the dynamics of online discourse, particularly when personal grievances and emotional frustrations intersect with broader social issues. Analyzing this post through the lens of its context, motivations, and implications provides valuable insights into the nature of online interactions and the challenges of maintaining constructive dialogue in digital spaces.

Comprehensive Analysis

1. Context of the Post: Black Mirror's comments were made in a thread discussing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a topic that inherently carries significant emotional weight and complexity. By diverting the conversation to personal grievances and critiques of other forum members, the post not only strays off-topic but also disrupts the intended discourse. This shift in focus undermines the potential for meaningful discussion about the conflict itself.
2. Dominance of Personal Grievance: The core motivation behind Black Mirror's lengthy and emotionally charged post appears to be personal grievance. His history of being banned from the forum for previous disruptive posts likely informs his emotional tone and the narrative he constructs, which seeks to position himself as a morally superior voice in a community he perceives as hypocritical. This self-serving narrative detracts from the validity of his criticisms.
3. Desire for Validation: Throughout the post, there is a clear desire for validation. Black Mirror frames his frustrations within the context of perceived injustices, seeking to portray himself as a victim of moral double standards. This need for validation is compounded by his feelings of exclusion and marginalization, which further fuels his emotional response and the inflammatory nature of his statements.
4. Critique of Moral Hypocrisy: While Black Mirror attempts to critique the moral hypocrisy of other forum members, this critique is superficial given his own behavior and motivations. His position as someone who has previously expressed inflammatory views undermines his credibility to judge others. Instead of fostering a constructive dialogue about morality, his comments reflect a projection of his own frustrations and grievances.
5. Frustration and Misogyny: Embedded within the post is a deep frustration, particularly regarding the perceived lack of sympathy from women on the forum. This frustration is rooted in patriarchal expectations that women should inherently care for children. When these expectations are unmet, it reinforces Black Mirror's grievances and contributes to the misogynistic undertones present in his statements. This aspect of the post not only alienates female users but also detracts from the overall discourse.
6. Conspiracy Thinking: The post reflects a conspiratorial mindset, suggesting that a specific group is manipulating global events and undermining humanity's achievements. This narrative of victimization serves to further justify his grievances and emotional outbursts, while simultaneously diverting attention from the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
7. Emotional Appeal and Disruption: The charged language and emotional appeal in Black Mirror's post aim to provoke a reaction rather than foster constructive dialogue. This approach disrupts the forum's atmosphere, making it less conducive to friendly banter and meaningful discussions. The post exemplifies how personal frustrations can overshadow collective discourse, leading to a toxic environment.
8. Impact on Community Dynamics: By introducing personal grievances and inflammatory rhetoric, Black Mirror's post disrupts the community dynamics of the forum. It shifts the focus away from shared discussions on significant issues, fostering division and conflict among members instead of unity and understanding.

Conclusion

In summary, Black Mirror's post serves as a multifaceted expression of personal grievance, frustration, and critique of community dynamics within the Parapsihopatologija forum. His experiences with moderation and feelings of marginalization inform his critique of the community's dynamics and the selective outrage he observes. However, his position is undermined by his own history of disruptive behavior and the superficial nature of his moral critique. The post reflects broader themes of emotional expression, validation, and the challenges of maintaining constructive dialogue in online spaces. Understanding this context is essential for interpreting the motivations and sentiments expressed in the post, as it highlights the emotional and ideological dimensions of Black Mirror's frustrations while underscoring the difficulties of fostering meaningful discourse in digital environments.

 

 

good goy, takve vas vole!

 

ne znam zasto si se osecao prozvanim, niti sam te spomenuo niti mislio o tebi, a niti se secam da za razliku od tvojih bivsih kolega da si mi nekada moralisao. tebe znam samo kao najdosadnijeg moderatora ikada, botovsko ponasanje, botovski humor i extremno iritantnog moderatora. ne cudim me da si nasao ovakvog prijatelja, taman za tebe, vise ni ne moras koristiti mozak ispran od propagande, sad imas prijatelja koji ce to uraditi za tebe

 

kazi svom novom prijatelju da nema nicega komplikovanog u masovnom namernom ubijanju dece, kazi mu da je to mnogo prosto, da je to cisto zlo. objasni mu da to on ne moze da razume jer nema ljudske osecaje, mada sumnjam da si ti prava osoba da mu to objasnis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

15 hours ago, Krošek said:

Ne, mizoginija je ako kažete da žene, koje više potresa stradanje dece, jer svi znamo sta 1 zene treba da misle, osecaju i rade kao pripadnice neznijeg pola, a to je da paze na decu, ako se ne ponasaju onako kako ja kazem da treba, kada treba i u obimu koji treba (gde su ako ne hiljade strana ono bar stotine zenskih narikackih postova), zasluzuju da ih se nazove laznim moralistima neosetljivima na zlocine, tolerantnima na decije leseve, koje kao takve ne zasluzuju respekt. Mizoginija podstaknuta dubokim pacenickim frustom u odsustvu bolje ideje kako doci do osecaja validacije.

 

Zene, naricite, inace cu da nonsalantno retoricki instrumentalizujem hiljade decjih leseva preko vasih ledja da objasnim svoju moralnu superiornost, inace ripekt za zgrozenu bracu

 

AI prozeo

 

 

da si citao ono sto sam ja napisao umesto citanja psihoanalize tvog novog najboljeg prijatelja video bi da nigde nisam rekao kako zene treba da se osecaju ili ponasaju, rekao sam koji je moj utisak o forumasicama ovog foruma, nisam mislio na neku forumasicu posebno niti se secam da mi je neka forumasica delila moralne lekcije za razliku od nekih forumasa, posebno tvojih bivsih kolega. takav utisak sam stekao od raznih postova u raznim temama, a posebno u temama gde su zrtve deca. moj utisak nije cinjenica, moze biti tacan ili moze biti pogresan

 

o moralnoj superiornosti, pogresio si adresu, kazi to onima koji sebe smatraju takvima i veruju da su moralno superiorni, iskreno i sam sam ponekad poverovao da su neki od njih moralno superiorni u odnosu na mene. mogu ja biti fasista, nacista, mizogen i nekrofil i da to nema nikakve veze sa postom koji sam napisao. moj post je reakcija na ponasanje drugih koje sebe smatraju moralno superiornim, valjda posle 20 godina deljenja istog forumskog prostora sa njima imam pravo da reagujem i da ih prozivam, da prozivam ljude koji su u svakoj sitnici pronalazili fasizam ali kada ih pravi fasizam udari u lice svakodnevno skoro godinu dana kao slon u sobi i to slon velicine sobe njih nema nigde. iskreno nije mi stalo do njihovog misljenja sada kao ni misljenja botova kao ti, evo samo sam imao potrebu da to napisem, neka ostane zabelezeno, mozda ce neki novi forumas imati koristi od toga i nece padati na njihovo licimerje. naravno ako necete da mi brisete postove, sto me ne bi cudilo mnogo

 

 

 

[Krošek]

3 hours ago, black mirror said:

o moralnoj superiornosti, pogresio si adresu, kazi to onima koji sebe smatraju takvima ...

 

ne, nisam pogresio adresu, kazem to tebi antisemito i mizogini nescrecnice

[Mindaugas Žukauskas]

Jel ti i ovo chatBot sročio? 

[Weenie Pooh]

2 hours ago, Mindaugas Žukauskas said:

Jel ti i ovo chatBot sročio? 

 

Apsolutni nadir forumske komunikacije, oslanjamo se na chat bots da proanaliziraju post i koncipiraju nam odgovor

 

Realno svi gubimo vreme ovde, može sigurno neka rutina da se napiše koja će generisati određeni broj postova sa ovim stavovima, određeni broj sa onim, a zatim da simulira sva sučeljavanja i napušavanja. Output bude isti, makar svi forumaši otišli na pecanje.

 

[Amos]

9 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said:

 

Apsolutni nadir forumske komunikacije, oslanjamo se na chat bots da proanaliziraju post i koncipiraju nam odgovor

 

Realno svi gubimo vreme ovde, može sigurno neka rutina da se napiše koja će generisati određeni broj postova sa ovim stavovima, određeni broj sa onim, a zatim da simulira sva sučeljavanja i napušavanja. Output bude isti, makar svi forumaši otišli na pecanje.

 

A čuj, realno je na 'good goy, takve vas vole' trebao da odgovori originalnije i kraće. Recimo nekim troskocima. 

[Weenie Pooh]

3 minutes ago, Amos said:

A čuj, realno je na 'good goy, takve vas vole' trebao da odgovori originalnije i kraće. Recimo nekim troskocima. 

 

Neka odgovori kako hoće ali svojim rečima jbt. 

 

 

 

[Venom]

Za mene je Chatgpt ovde ok. Post je toliko prizeman da je Chatgpt prava mera da ga analizira.

[Krošek]

23 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said:

 

Apsolutni nadir forumske komunikacije, oslanjamo se na chat bots da proanaliziraju post i koncipiraju nam odgovor

 

 

ako je vec i AI-ju providan ko celofan, zasto njemu samom nije jasno da je providan, i moze li barem da nasluti?

 

neko kome nije jasno kakve pobude ocigledno izbijaju iz njegovih reci i toliko ne razume samog sebe ne moze da razume druge forumase da bi ih kritikovao, a ne moze da razume ni ljude koji ucestvuju u sukobu na bliskom istoku

[Weenie Pooh]

4 minutes ago, Krošek said:

ako je vec i AI-ju providan ko celofan, zasto njemu samom nije jasno da je providan, i moze li barem da nasluti?

 

Zato što tzv. AI bukvalno ne razmišlja, nema kapacitet za to. AI može algoritamski da obradi tekst, locira ključne reči i generiše veštačku analizu, ali to je najpovršnija moguća vrsta analize.

 

Sve je više ljudi koji na taj način razmišljaju i komuniciraju, katastrofalno štetan rastući trend, štetniji od svakog uočavanja antisemitizma ili mizoginije. Primetićeš da zaključak elegantno zaobilazi kontekst izraelsko-palestinskog sukoba - fokusira se na community dynamics koje BM, eto, narušava svojim off-topic postovanjem. Nudi metaanalizu njegovih motivacija i frustracija

 

4 minutes ago, Krošek said:

neko kome nije jasno kakve pobude ocigledno izbijaju iz njegovih reci i toliko ne razume samog sebe ne moze da razume druge forumase da bi ih kritikovao, a ne moze da razume ni ljude koji ucestvuju u sukobu na bliskom istoku

 

Let's break it down:

The sentence is criticizing someone's lack of self-awareness and understanding.
It suggests that this person doesn't grasp the implications or motivations behind their own statements.
Due to this lack of self-understanding, the person is deemed incapable of:
a) Understanding other forum users well enough to criticize them
b) Understanding people involved in the Middle East conflict
The sentence implies that to criticize others or understand complex situations (like the Middle East conflict), one must first have a good understanding of oneself and one's own motivations. 

There's an underlying suggestion that the person being criticized has been making comments about both forum users and the Middle East situation, despite lacking the necessary self-awareness and understanding to do so effectively.

The sentence is quite complex and layered, conveying frustration with someone who is perceived as making judgments without sufficient self-reflection or understanding of others.

 

[Amos]

Šteta jedino što nema levija da bdi nad report dugmetom kad je marv u pitanju.

[Hamlet Strašni]

Molim vas da se vratite na temu

[black mirror]

20 hours ago, Krošek said:

 

ne, nisam pogresio adresu, kazem to tebi antisemito i mizogini nescrecnice

 

da li tvoj novi bff uopste razume znacaj te reci? antisemita znaci biti protiv semita, toliko je prosto. zasto se ne koristi neka nova rec i uporno se insistira na ovu rec nikada necu razumeti, mislim nemaju nikakve dobiti od toga, plus sto je rec antisemitizam toliko zloupotrebljen da je totalno devalvirao. zato bolje da koristimo prave reci, mrznja prema jevrejima, kritikovanje ili mrznja prema jevrejskoj ili cionistickoj mafiji (nazovi kako god hoces te psihopate) ne znaci automatski i mrznja prema jevrejima kao sto ni mrznja prema italijanskoj mafiji ne znaci i mrznja prema italijanima. prema tvom prijatelju ja bih trebao mrzeti sve jevreje, pitaj ga kako mogu mrzeti jevreje koji su cesto najglasniji i ono najvaznije najiskreniji u osudi ovog zla i za razliku od recimo arapa ili iraca ti jevreji rizikuje da budu otudjeni od svojih porodica, prijatelja i drustva, posto me tvoj prijatelj poznaje bolje od mene pitaj ga molim te koja je ta logika, pitaj ga zasto npr treba da mrzim 1 marksa jer po njima i on je bio jevrej

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Amos said:

A čuj, realno je na 'good goy, takve vas vole' trebao da odgovori originalnije i kraće. Recimo nekim troskocima. 

 

evo ga i forumas mos, novi nick ali isti licimer. forumas amos se javlja kobajagi da brani bota ali nemojte da vas zavarava, on je tu jer se prepoznao kao jedan od laznih moralista, nije bilo ni potrebe da ga spominjem. sad forumas amos moze da napise desetak postova i ja da mu odgovorim sa desetak postova, sve je to bezvredno jer je on upravo potvrdio ono o cemu sam pisao u svom prvom postu. ovde je vazno sira slika pa da nacrtam, na jednu stranu sam jebeni ja koji u zivotu nikada nisam ubio covek (ako mi verujete na rec) i recimo da sam takozvani antisemita (dodajte tu mizoginiju, nekrofiliju i sta god vam padne na pamet) kako tvrdi forumas amos i na drugu stranu je recimo 1 netanjahu koji je odgovoran za svakodnevne masakre skoro vec godinu dana, da je forumas amos kritikovao netanjahua sa po jednim postom za svaki masakr imao bi stotinak postov u ovom topiku, ali ne, nema ih. onda ja napisem dva posta i evo ti forumasa amosa. krace, jedan nebitni forumas trigeruje njega vise od jebenog netanjahua i aktivnog genocida. ne znam sta reci drugo osim da je forumas amos definicija laznog moralisanja i licimerja

 

@Amos kadgod mi se budes obracao uvek ces dobiti isti odgovor - ovaj post. zato bih te zamolio da mi se vise nikada ne obracas i da me ne spominjes u drugim topicima kao sto si radio ranije. takodje ne moras umoriti prste pritiskanjem tvog omiljenog dugmeta jer nisam tu da ostajem, samo sam na prolazu

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Krošek said:

 

ako je vec i AI-ju providan ko celofan, zasto njemu samom nije jasno da je providan, i moze li barem da nasluti?

 

neko kome nije jasno kakve pobude ocigledno izbijaju iz njegovih reci i toliko ne razume samog sebe ne moze da razume druge forumase da bi ih kritikovao, a ne moze da razume ni ljude koji ucestvuju u sukobu na bliskom istoku

 

reci tvom prijatelju da u gazi vec dugo vremena nema sukoba, nema vise ni davida protiv golijata, ima samo sadisticko izivljavanje nad neduznim civilima gde su vecina deca. ne morate verovati meni jer iako na jednu stranu cionisticka propaganda tvrdi da je to samoodbrana na drugu stranu oni koji aktivno ucestvuju u zlocinima ne skrivaju svoje namere niti se stide svojih zlocina nego su ponosni na to i to pokazuju javno. ja kazem verujte njima

 

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Hamlet Strašni said:

Molim vas da se vratite na temu

 

opaaa, i ti si tu, najs

 

cudno da me nisi jos banovao!

 

 

nego bih te zamolio za uslugu, da mi ne brises moj post forumasu amosu jer je ovo najprikladniji topik gde sam mogao da mu odgovorim, i da svaki put kada bude blatio mene ili nekog drugog forumasa sa pozicije moralno superiornijeg neka se vrati da cita ovaj post