Automobili na elektricni pogon

[Downforce]

On 29. 10. 2024. at 5:21, banecare1 said:

ovo mi je iskocilo na wechatu, ne znam da li je istina

 

 

 

Tacno je.

 

I kao i uvek ima raznih razloga zasto je to tako.

 

Delimicno zato sto Evropa zesce precenjuje i ugradjuje se, a delimicno zato sto Kina ima...pa recimo relaksirane zakone o zastiti na radu, radu, bezbednosti vozila, ekologiji...itd itd...

 

Kombinacija faktora koja nas je dovela gde smo sada.

 

Automatizacija je jedini faktor koji Evropu drzi u igri. Kineze to prakticno toliko i ne zanima jer ne dobijaju nista sa tim. Ako bi dobili interes i tu da napreduju - kupi pinkle, zatvaraj radnju...

 

Carine odrzavaju Evropske proizvodjace na aparatima trenutno. 

[gone fishing]

nisam znao da ćaomi pravi i kola i to kakva kola dan ti jebem

 

 

[Downforce]

Stvarno su daleko odmakli sa baterijama. Sve je to posledica ,izmedju ostalog, iskustava dobijenih tokom razvoja mobilnih telefona. To im je bio poligon i odskocna daska.

 

Otuda i Xiaomi u prici...

[Shan Jan]

Sto se tice robota, Kina rapidno napreduje, govori se o tome da je ideja da se time izbori sa smanjenjem radno sposobne populacije i starenja stanovnistva. Taj rapidni pad stanovnistva (kao i sve zemlje Dalekog Istoka) ce ih u buducnosti kostati statusa svetske sile ako nesto ne promene.

[banecare1]

2 hours ago, gone fishing said:

nisam znao da ćaomi pravi i kola i to kakva kola dan ti jebem

 

stoji jedan xiaomi (mislim da je bas) SU7 na putu ka poslu, vidim ga svaki dan. ceka tablice. 

 

svaki proizvodjac telefona, frizidera i pegli je izbacio svoja kola u kini 

neverovatno je boliko ih se pojavilo. naravno, vecina ce da bankrotira, ali ovi sto prezive imaju super ponudu

 

[banecare1]

 

 

 

[vememah]

 

 

Edited November 9 by vememah

[Engineer]

https://futurism.com/the-byte/four-die-trapped-burning-tesla

 

Generalno, ne mislim ništa dobro o ljudima koji su svesno popušili Maskovu idiokratiju u autoindustriji (uvučene el. brave, touchscreen umesto dugmića, mobilna aplikacija za korišćenje automobila...), pa ne znam šta da kažem na ovu vest

[vememah]

 

 

https://www.bruegel.org/analysis/transatlantic-clean-investment-monitor

[vememah]

 

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Tesla Has the Highest Fatal Accident Rate of All Auto Brands, Study Finds

Tesla vehicles suffer fatal accidents at a rate that's twice the industry average, according to a new report.

Tesla's vehicles have the highest fatal accident rate among all car brands in America, according to a recent iSeeCars study that analyzed data from the U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS).

The study was conducted on model year 2018–2022 vehicles, and focused on crashes between 2017 and 2022 that resulted in occupant fatalities. Tesla vehicles have a fatal crash rate of 5.6 per billion miles driven, according to the study; Kia is second with a rate of 5.5, and Buick rounds out the top three with a 4.8 rate. The average fatal crash rate for all cars in the United States is 2.8 per billion vehicle miles driven.

The study also breaks down some of the data for individual models. The Tesla Model S has a rate more than double than average, at 5.8 per billion vehicle miles driven; meanwhile, the Tesla Model Y — the best-selling vehicle in the world has a fatal crash rate of 10.6, nearly four times the average. It ranked as the sixth worst vehicle overall. (The Hyundai Venue took the top spot overall, with a fatal crash rate of 13.9.)

The study's authors make clear that the results do not indicate Tesla vehicles are inherently unsafe or have design flaws. In fact, Tesla vehicles are loaded with safety technology; the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) named the 2024 Model Y as a Top Safety Pick+ award winner, for example. Many of the other cars that ranked highly on the list have also been given high ratings for safety by the likes of IIHS and the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration, as well.

So, why are Teslas — and many other ostensibly safe cars on the list — involved in so many fatal crashes? “The models on this list likely reflect a combination of driver behavior and driving conditions, leading to increased crashes and fatalities,” iSeeCars executive analyst Karl Brauer said in the report. “A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed, without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most likely to arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving.”

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a62919131/tesla-has-highest-fatal-accident-rate-of-all-auto-brands-study/

Edited November 17 by vememah

[zorglub]

Realno bilo je za očekivati, običnim ljudima masovno podeliti/prodati automobile koji valjda počinju sa 280KS, sa ogromnim obrtnim momentom i ubrzanjem je suludo.

[bios]

Najgori udes koji sam u životu video se desio na raskrsnici koju prolazim svaki dan. Pre nekiih godinu dana, baš za vikend kad je F1 trka u gradu, dva napaljena pavijana se trkala u BMW-u i Tesli. 
 

 

Ova zgužvana masa ispred SUV-a je sve što  ostalo od Tesle.  Sreća u nesreći je što se zakucao u ovaj tenk, pa nije bilo još mrtvih osim mentola iz Tesle. BMW pobegao, da ne kažem pobedio. 
 

Inače, subjektivno zapažanja. Vozači Tesle mahom nemaju pojma da voze, ali retko su hazardni. Sa druge strane za KIA modele novije proizvodnje mogu da potvrdim da divljaju znatno iznad proseka. KIA je druga na listi l u članku koji je @vememah postavio. 

[Venom]

 

 

 

[Shan Jan]

@Venom jel su to prosirenja zbog rasta domace potraznje ili zbog izvoza? Kapiram da ce zemlje sveta da se gadjaju tarifama kao nenormalne u buducnosti, mozda im ne bude lako da sve to prodaju.

[Venom]

Nemam pojma. Bilo mi je zanimljivo kolika je razlika između BYD i Tesle. Fer je reći da je autor kasnije postavio poređenje sa VW u Wolfsburgu i to je slično.