R.I.P.

[Turnbull]

Tony Scott: Better than RidleyHe helped invent action movies and turned Tom Cruise into a star. How Tony Scott surpassed his more famous brotherBy Alex PareeneFor a long time, Tony Scott has been my favorite movie-directing Scott brother. I believe quite strongly that he is also the better movie-directing Scott brother, an opinion that everyone finds ridiculous until they stop and think about how many films by each Scott they’ve actually loved.Ridley Scott directed two unquestionable, no-bullshit masterpieces — both about as amazing as films get — at the very beginning of his career, and then a load of missteps, half-baked ideas, endless pompous historical epics, and OK genre exercises with heavy dollops of artistic pretension. (And, sure, “Thelma and Louise,” which is obviously great.) Tellingly, he keeps returning to his masterpieces, releasing the zillionth iteration of “Blade Runner” on the zillionth home media format and providing “Alien” with a dull and insultingly stupid prequel.Tony Scott, though. Tony Scott begins his career on the top of his game and ends it working at basically the same level. (OK, “Top Gun” isn’t his first movie. “The Hunger” is a bit of camp ’80s goth brilliance, and I love it, but it bears little relation to the rest of Scott’s oeuvre.) If filmmaking is a craft, Tony Scott was the better craftsman. His most ridiculous movies (say, “The Last Boy Scout”) are still hugely entertaining. There’s no unwatchable Tony Scott movie. (Well, I never saw “Domino.”)He’s undeniably hugely influential. Tony Scott helped invent the visual vocabulary of the modern American action film. He took Tom Cruise — who seemed like he’d be playing teens forever — and turned him into the action superstar Tom Cruise we all loved until he went nuts. (Keep in mind how unlikely this actually was, at the time: baby-faced, 5-foot-something Cruise becoming an action star in the era of Stallone and Schwarzenegger!) And his movies with Denzel Washington, his blue-collar everyman superhero, are as delightful a director/actor collaboration as American film’s had in years. (So much better than the other guy and Russell effing Crowe.) And people love these movies. I once had a cabdriver relate to me the entire plot, beat by beat, of “Man on Fire,” because he’d watched it on TBS last night. I was entertained! Scott and Denzel’s “Taking of Pelham 1, 2, 3″ remake was so much better than it had any right to be, and that he followed it up with another action suspense film based on a railroad set-piece is hilarious. (And “Unstoppable” is good fun, unless you hate Denzel Washington as a crusty engineer — facing early retirement! — stopping a runaway train while bickering with and eventually gaining respect for his fresh-faced new partner. If you hate these tropes you hate American pop cinema, and fun.) (Another great thing about both movies is that you learn a lot about how trains work!)Like the great Kathryn Bigelow, Tony Scott’s best stuff also works as explorations and oftentimes hilarious deconstructions of American masculinity and homosocial relationships. Relationships — rivalries masking love, dangerous obsessions — between manly men are the centerpiece of much of his work. “Top Gun,” yes, is a military recruitment film, but as everyone knows it’s also a tragic love story starring two straight men. (And Scott did military porn a million times better than Michael Bay, the action film auteur who actually can’t manage to coherently stage or film an action scene.)In the end Scott’s work speaks for itself. The movies are great. “Days of Thunder” is “Top Gun” in cars. Which, awesome. “Enemy of the State” is a seamless melding of ’70s paranoia thriller with ’90s Will Smith action spectacle. “Deja Vu” is better than you remember. “The Fan” has one of the last great De Niro psycho performances. “Crimson Tide” is a perfect submarine movie. “True Romance” is “True Romance.” These are pop classics, wonderful confections, expertly crafted, with great performances from all involved. They’ll never make it to the “Sight & Sound” list (well, the academy might eventually rescue “Deja Vu”) but as long as people love movies they’ll love Tony Scott movies.

[beatakeshi]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338768/Vrlo zabavno. Otkad je Tarantino merilo vrednosti i stila?

[Hippie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBZkP3H7Td4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzR4Agcsuh8kako god, zalosno... nek pociva u miru

[Molder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM6QkG0xeY R.I.P. Tony...

[Hippie]

ne razumem zasto ljudi izaberu tako uzasan nacin da umru.... kad bi meni dali tako neku dijagnozu, nagutala bih se nekih sarenih pilula i njasra bar da imam smrt do jaja

[Jolly Roger]

Tony Scott: Better than RidleyBy Alex Pareene

O pokojniku najlepše, bio je veliki režiser nesumnjivo, ali ga pretera Alex. Ajde što je netačna, ova vrsta poređenja je pomalo neumesna u ovakvom trenutku.I da, jebeni novinari, bagra najgora:Tony Scott Inoperable Brain Cancer Reports 'Absolutely False', Says Family

[luba]

sto ga pretera, pa ovo je nesto najtacnije sto je bilo ko napisao u poslednjih ihahaj godina

These are pop classics, wonderful confections, expertly crafted, with great performances from all involved. They’ll never make it to the “Sight & Sound” list (well, the academy might eventually rescue “Deja Vu”) but as long as people love movies they’ll love Tony Scott movies.

bas me kopka da li ce brat ser da nastavi da radi na filmu po knjizi bila o'rajlija.

[ToniAdams]

O pokojniku najlepše, bio je veliki režiser nesumnjivo, ali ga pretera Alex. Ajde što je netačna, ova vrsta poređenja je pomalo neumesna u ovakvom trenutku.I da, jebeni novinari, bagra najgora:Tony Scott Inoperable Brain Cancer Reports 'Absolutely False', Says Family

+1obozavao sam tonija, i jebiga, kao da mi je neko iz sire familije poginuo.al preterase ga, stariji je snimio makar 2 filma koje niko nikad ni u kom univerzumu nece moci tako dobro da uradi.na stranu sto toni verovatno ima veci broj meni vaznih filmova.

[Jolly Roger]

sto ga pretera, pa ovo je nesto najtacnije sto je bilo ko napisao u poslednjih ihahaj godina

Moj komentar se odnosio na međusobno poređenje braće, ne na ovo što si ti citirala.

bas me kopka da li ce brat ser da nastavi da radi na filmu po knjizi bila o'rajlija.

Mene, pak, zanima da li će, posle ove tragedije, uopšte i nastaviti s radom.

[Jolly Roger]

+1obozavao sam tonija, i jebiga, kao da mi je neko iz sire familije poginuo.al preterase ga, stariji je snimio makar 2 filma koje niko nikad ni u kom univerzumu nece moci tako dobro da uradi.na stranu sto toni verovatno ima veci broj meni vaznih filmova.

To je otprilike suština.

[luba]

jest istina. ali je toni ipak snimio ovo i ovako.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYvQMDLZZka posle prometeja, ovo me mnogo plasi

As of February 2012, Ridley Scott was discussing a project based on a screenplay called The Counsellor by author Cormac McCarthy.^[33]

@jollynastavice ridli, sigurno, samo zavisi u kom pravcu. poredjenja ih prate oduvek, i ovo je jedan od retkih tekstova u kojima se toniju daje prednost. a meni se nekako cini da je toni, bas zbog toga sto je uvek bio u senci, ziveo u svojoj cauri i neprijatno se osecao pod svetlostima velegrada u kojima je ridli uzivao, bio mnogo iskreniji, posveceniji i mom uzivanju u filmu drazi od brata, bez obzira sto su bar tri ridlijeva filma za slanje vanzemaljcima. Edited August 21, 2012 by luba

[Turnbull]

+1obozavao sam tonija, i jebiga, kao da mi je neko iz sire familije poginuo.al preterase ga, stariji je snimio makar 2 filma koje niko nikad ni u kom univerzumu nece moci tako dobro da uradi.na stranu sto toni verovatno ima veci broj meni vaznih filmova.

Pa, čekaj, ali to je upravo poenta teksta:

Ridley Scott directed two unquestionable, no-bullshit masterpieces — both about as amazing as films get — at the very beginning of his career, and then a load of missteps, half-baked ideas, endless pompous historical epics, and OK genre exercises with heavy dollops of artistic pretension. (And, sure, “Thelma and Louise,” which is obviously great.) Tellingly, he keeps returning to his masterpieces, releasing the zillionth iteration of “Blade Runner” on the zillionth home media format and providing “Alien” with a dull and insultingly stupid prequel.Tony Scott, though. Tony Scott begins his career on the top of his game and ends it working at basically the same level. (OK, “Top Gun” isn’t his first movie. “The Hunger” is a bit of camp ’80s goth brilliance, and I love it, but it bears little relation to the rest of Scott’s oeuvre.) If filmmaking is a craft, Tony Scott was the better craftsman. His most ridiculous movies (say, “The Last Boy Scout”) are still hugely entertaining. There’s no unwatchable Tony Scott movie. (Well, I never saw “Domino.”)

Tekst ne tvrdi da je Toni bio u svemu bolji od Ridlija, pre dovodi u pitanje našu koncepciju "dobrog reditelja". Da li je bolji onaj koji je snimio dva apsolutna remek-dela, i ostalo - nja, ili onaj koji je konzistentno pravio dobre filmove. Ne moraš da se složiš sa njegovim odgovorom, ali dilema je svakako realna i nije senzacionalistička.

[ToniAdams]

ma ok, kad bismo matematicki gledali, tj sabirali dobre i oduzimali lose, verovatno bi toni ispao bolji reziser.doduse, imao je i on nebuloza, tipa ono gde tom vejts glumi toma vejtsa u tripu kire najtli, domino, il kako vec.ma kakogod, za mene jedan od najbitnijih rezisera danasnjeg vremena.

[Turnbull]

Ne dolivam ulje na vatru, samo razmišljam. Ako kao nasavnik imaš u odeljenju dva učenika, od kojih jedan ponekad daje genijalne odgovore, ali često potpuno promašuje, a drugi daje dobre odgovore, koje je bolji? I još zanimljivije - nećeš li početi da sumnjaš da su se onom prvom genijalni odgovori možda omakli, da su bili pre izuzetak nego pravilo? Ne mislim da postoji definitivan odgovor, samo ispitujem intuicije. SLično ti je sa Scott Free braćom. Ko je gledao Good Year zna o čemu govorim. :)

[ToniAdams]

pa najace da smo ti i ja u poziciji nastavnika, a braca skot u poziciji ucenika, te da postoji univerzalni sistem validacije odgovora