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[Gandalf]

5 hours ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Koji će centralni organ da koordiniše eksperimentisanje, da uradi presek posle X godina i zaključi da li je najbolji inovativni model iz Ilinoisa ili iz Tenesija, pa primeni to optimalno rešenje na federalnom nivou?

Nekakva koordinacija bi bila kontraproduktivna. Što manje nam hajvani poput Trampa ili Bajdena/Kamale koordinišu, to bolje (opravio ga rahmetli Medison, A+). Možda ćemo 2028-e ili 2032-e glasati za predsednika sa nečim u glavi.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=massachusetts+model+obamacare

Edited August 22 by Gandalf

[Venom]

4 hours ago, Budja said:

 

Ma, kakvi karteli u centru Njujorka.

 

Rec je o tome da nece bogatuni da im se pokvari kvalitet zivota nekim 100spratnim oblakoderima u Greenwich Village, i to je ok.

Tako bismo svi koji tu zivimo mislili.

 

Zapravo je surovi kapitalizam tu dizati nebodere, tipa Bgd na vodi.

 

 

 

Možda si propustio: Rent Going Up? One Company’s Algorithm Could Be Why.

 

Par crtica da se ne radi o tome o čemu ti govoriš.

 

In one neighborhood in Seattle, ProPublica found, 70% of apartments were overseen by just 10 property managers, every single one of which used pricing software sold by RealPage.

...

RealPage acknowledged that it feeds its clients’ internal rent data into its pricing software, giving landlords an aggregated, anonymous look at what their competitors nearby are charging.

...

Somewhere around 2016, according to one trade group, the industry’s use of the pricing software began to achieve “critical mass.”

 

The more property managers who sign on to RealPage services, the more data flows into the company’s repository. That in turn aids its pricing service, which the company says “leverages multifamily’s largest lease transaction database.”

...

The company had been seeking occupancy levels of 97% or 98% in markets where it was a leader, Winn said. But when it began using YieldStar, managers saw that raising rents and leaving some apartments vacant made more money.

...

Tenant Amanda Tolep and her husband were approaching the end of their lease for a one-bedroom at the six-story building near the end of 2021 when they learned rent would jump about $400, to $1,600. The increase amounted to 33% — in one year.

...

“Many others have been priced out of Seattle altogether due to rapidly rising rents and housing prices,” the study said.

...

As the availability of apartments has shrunk, so has the choice of landlords. The startling concentration of property management in Belltown mirrors a national trend.

...

He concluded the landlords were using tech to do exactly what RealPage advertised it could do — help them charge high rents and beat the market.

 

“There is no competition,” he said.

...

But Maureen K. Ohlhausen, who was then the acting chair of the Federal Trade Commission, said in a 2017 talk that it could be problematic if a group of competitors all used the same outside firm’s algorithm to maximize prices across a market.

...

Drama over rising rent costs — now a key driver of inflation — has been increasingly public. The year before the pandemic, roughly 46% of renters in the U.S. spent more than 30% of their income on rent and therefore met the definition of cost-burdened, Harvard University’s Joint Center for Housing Studies found.

...

 “One of the defining characteristics of housing markets in the last 40 years has been rents increasing faster than wages.

...

And the exhortations by RealPage and real estate executives for companies to use YieldStar and let some units sit vacant to raise prices are reminiscent of a legal case in the early 1900s, he said, where lumber companies shared information and a directive to reduce supply in order to push up prices.

 

 

Edited August 22 by Venom

[Venom]

Mislim sve je kristalno jasno. Ni hotelu ili avio kompaniji možda nije nužno u interesu da proda sav kapacitet, nego im je u interesu da maksimizuju profit. Hotel bi najsrećniji da im 99 soba zvrji prazno, a da jednu izdaju za milion evra po noćenju. Samo što se ovde ne radi i hotelu ili letovanju, nego o elementarnom ljudskom pravu da imaš krov nad glavom. I pritom se sve radi kroz dogovaranje cena, to što se radi kroz softver™ je irelevantno, isto kao što su mi neki naizgled normalni ljudi ovde objašnjavali da Uber nije taksi jer ga ne zoveš telefonom nego stisneš dugme na aplikaciji. Pa smo par godina kasnije čitali prepisku Uber menadžmenta kako su zapravo ilegalni taksi i kako im nije jasno kako javnost guta njihove gluposti. Ne znam zašto si ljudi dozvoljavaju da ih na konto ideologije ovako vuku za nos.

 

Na kraju ti koji zarađuju ceđenjem suve drenovine imaju kroz finansije i političku moć, koju naravno obilato koriste, jer im nije u interesu da im neko ugrozi ceđenje suve drenovi.  I onda slušamo nekakvo deaftone verglanje o tome kako će sve biti gore, a ljude cede i mrcvare do besvesti već godinama. I kako treba nešto prepustiti tržištu što je u direktnoj koliziji sa interesima moćnih subjekata na tržištu. Nema niko korist od ovoga, društvo nema korist od ovoga.

[3opge]

Jedan od najgorih real estate barona cuven po proganjanju nesrecnika koji rentiraju stanove u zgradama koje on zarko zeli da srusi i upgraduje je poznati srpski preduzetnik jared kushner.

[Mel]

1 hour ago, 3opge said:

Jedan od najgorih real estate barona cuven po proganjanju nesrecnika koji rentiraju stanove u zgradama koje on zarko zeli da srusi i upgraduje je poznati srpski preduzetnik jared kushner.

 

Meni je taj lik postao poznat pre svega po onoj 'optuzbi' da je on saudijskom princu tipovao Kashogija.

A to sa zgradama koje treba rusiti sam gledala po komsiluku nekad, ne sa Kusnerkom, deluje mi da je to opste mesto kapitalizma ove faze.

[Budja]

8 hours ago, Venom said:

 

Možda si propustio: Rent Going Up? One Company’s Algorithm Could Be Why.

 

Par crtica da se ne radi o tome o čemu ti govoriš.

 

In one neighborhood in Seattle, ProPublica found, 70% of apartments were overseen by just 10 property managers, every single one of which used pricing software sold by RealPage.

...

RealPage acknowledged that it feeds its clients’ internal rent data into its pricing software, giving landlords an aggregated, anonymous look at what their competitors nearby are charging.

...

Somewhere around 2016, according to one trade group, the industry’s use of the pricing software began to achieve “critical mass.”

 

The more property managers who sign on to RealPage services, the more data flows into the company’s repository. That in turn aids its pricing service, which the company says “leverages multifamily’s largest lease transaction database.”

...

The company had been seeking occupancy levels of 97% or 98% in markets where it was a leader, Winn said. But when it began using YieldStar, managers saw that raising rents and leaving some apartments vacant made more money.

...

Tenant Amanda Tolep and her husband were approaching the end of their lease for a one-bedroom at the six-story building near the end of 2021 when they learned rent would jump about $400, to $1,600. The increase amounted to 33% — in one year.

...

“Many others have been priced out of Seattle altogether due to rapidly rising rents and housing prices,” the study said.

...

As the availability of apartments has shrunk, so has the choice of landlords. The startling concentration of property management in Belltown mirrors a national trend.

...

He concluded the landlords were using tech to do exactly what RealPage advertised it could do — help them charge high rents and beat the market.

 

“There is no competition,” he said.

...

But Maureen K. Ohlhausen, who was then the acting chair of the Federal Trade Commission, said in a 2017 talk that it could be problematic if a group of competitors all used the same outside firm’s algorithm to maximize prices across a market.

...

Drama over rising rent costs — now a key driver of inflation — has been increasingly public. The year before the pandemic, roughly 46% of renters in the U.S. spent more than 30% of their income on rent and therefore met the definition of cost-burdened, Harvard University’s Joint Center for Housing Studies found.

...

 “One of the defining characteristics of housing markets in the last 40 years has been rents increasing faster than wages.

...

And the exhortations by RealPage and real estate executives for companies to use YieldStar and let some units sit vacant to raise prices are reminiscent of a legal case in the early 1900s, he said, where lumber companies shared information and a directive to reduce supply in order to push up prices.

 

 

 

Ovo je koluzija i kartel, jer, fakticki, algoritam  se koristi kao mehanizam dogovora. To je za anti-trust politiku.

 

Sto je drugi par cipela u odnosu na onu pocetnu anegdotu o neboderima na Menhetnu.

 

 

[Budja]

5 hours ago, Venom said:

Mislim sve je kristalno jasno. Ni hotelu ili avio kompaniji možda nije nužno u interesu da proda sav kapacitet, nego im je u interesu da maksimizuju profit. Hotel bi najsrećniji da im 99 soba zvrji prazno, a da jednu izdaju za milion evra po noćenju. Samo što se ovde ne radi i hotelu ili letovanju, nego o elementarnom ljudskom pravu da imaš krov nad glavom. I pritom se sve radi kroz dogovaranje cena, to što se radi kroz softver™ je irelevantno, isto kao što su mi neki naizgled normalni ljudi ovde objašnjavali da Uber nije taksi jer ga ne zoveš telefonom nego stisneš dugme na aplikaciji. Pa smo par godina kasnije čitali prepisku Uber menadžmenta kako su zapravo ilegalni taksi i kako im nije jasno kako javnost guta njihove gluposti. Ne znam zašto si ljudi dozvoljavaju da ih na konto ideologije ovako vuku za nos.

 

Na kraju ti koji zarađuju ceđenjem suve drenovine imaju kroz finansije i političku moć, koju naravno obilato koriste, jer im nije u interesu da im neko ugrozi ceđenje suve drenovi.  I onda slušamo nekakvo deaftone verglanje o tome kako će sve biti gore, a ljude cede i mrcvare do besvesti već godinama. I kako treba nešto prepustiti tržištu što je u direktnoj koliziji sa interesima moćnih subjekata na tržištu. Nema niko korist od ovoga, društvo nema korist od ovoga.

 

Lakse malo sa tim ljudskim pravom, narocito tako siroko postavljenim.

Voleo bih da preciznije definisises koji je krov ljudsko pravo, jer bih ja voleo da imam ljudkso pravo da zivim u penthausu sa pogledom na Centralni park.

 

U tom smislu je katastrofalno frejmovati visoke rente u smislu ljudskih prava. Traba ih frejmovati u smislu drugog dela tvog posta - konkurencije, monopola, zastite potrosaca.

 

 

I, takodje, oko ljudksih prava, uskladiti ljudsko pravo za krov nad glavom sa pravom na park u blizni krova, radnim mesto na 15 minuta, pravom na kvalitetan vazduh i slicnim ljudskim pravima koji su u koliziji sa investitorskim urbanizmom. Stavise, "krov nad glavom" je idealan za mafijase koji bi da grade jeftine kartonske visokospratne gusto naseljene kutije.

[Gandalf]

6 hours ago, Venom said:

Mislim sve je kristalno jasno. Ni hotelu ili avio kompaniji možda nije nužno u interesu da proda sav kapacitet, nego im je u interesu da maksimizuju profit. Hotel bi najsrećniji da im 99 soba zvrji prazno, a da jednu izdaju za milion evra po noćenju.

za tako nešto je potrebna koncentracija koja ovde ne postoji. čak i kada bi se svi korisnici datog algoritma udružili, diskutabilno da bi i tada moglo da se desi - visok procenat stanodavaca nisu korporacije već pojedinci koji imaju jednu ili dve zgrade, ili iznajmljuju par stanova. za razliku od korporativnih menadžera koji bi u teoriji bili obavezni da se drže cene koju preporuči algoritam, sa potonjima možeš pregovarati jer su često očajni da iznajme i ispod tržišne cene.

 

edit: pri tome, dati članak je delom leva & državna propaganda: nije inflacija, nije manjak stambenog fonda, već zli kapitalisti. delom je samopromocija, očito je toj firmi u interesu da potencijalni klijenti misle da mogu zaraditi korišćenjem datog softvera.

Edited August 22 by Gandalf

[Roger Sanchez]

God damn kako ih ovo "weird" grize. Kako ih je Walz našao 

 

 

[dragance]

30 minutes ago, Roger Sanchez said:

God damn kako ih ovo "weird" grize. Kako ih je Walz našao 

 

 

kakva gnjida i djubre je ova Ann Coulter da ismeva dete sa posebnim potrebama. Pakao je mali za sve njih.

[braca]

Republikanci 💩 :

 

 

 

[copkillah]

24 minutes ago, dragance said:

kakva gnjida i djubre je ova Ann Coulter da ismeva dete sa posebnim potrebama. Pakao je mali za sve njih.

 

nju su baš iskasapili na roastu Roba Loua

 

[Mel]

24 minutes ago, dragance said:

kakva gnjida i djubre je ova Ann Coulter da ismeva dete sa posebnim potrebama. Pakao je mali za sve njih.

 

Svi genicidasi su gnjide, i oni koji glasaju genocidashe su gnjide. Gencidasi koji ismevaju decu sa posebnim potrebama su gnjide, genocidasi koji dele tampone makar samo deklarativno zenskoj populaciji su takodje gnjide.

[braca]

7 minutes ago, Mel said:

 

Svi genicidasi su gnjide, i oni koji glasaju genocidashe su gnjide. Gencidasi koji ismevaju decu sa posebnim potrebama su gnjide, genocidasi koji dele tampone makar samo deklarativno zenskoj populaciji su takodje gnjide.

Svejetoisto™

Edited August 22 by braca

[Pokojni Ruxin]

jel sve je to isto novi enlightened centrism? znamo, jeste, jako ste pametni, evo kolačić 

Edited August 22 by Pokojni Ruxin