mei Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 Odgledala sam film. Film je kritika ultra-konzervativne kulture (porodica glavne junakinje), ali i realnog stanja u kome pojedini roditelju ne posvećuju dovoljno pažnje deci (ostale devojčicu iz plesne grupe). Na jednoj strani su deca koja praktično odrastaju sama (i/ili u opresivnoj kulturi), a na drugoj trenutna over-sexualizovana pop-kultura, koja je lako dostupna deci, te je ta deca kopiraju bez razumevanja. Negativne kritike online, koje kažu kako film promoviše pedofiliju (bar one koje sam čitala / slušala) uglanom dolaze od ljudi koji nisu pogledali film. Izuzetak iz ovog uzorka koji sam pregledala je Ben Shapiro, koji me je malo pozitivno iznenadio, pošto sam očekivala i od njega sličnu kritiku kao od ostalih sa konzervativne strane. On je pogledao film i rekao da film ne promoviše pedofiliju, već da film osuđuje trend u kome preterana sexualizacija iz pop-kulutre dolazi do dece. On, pak osuđuje Netflix zbog prvobitne verzije postera ovog filma, na osnovu koga je izgledalo da film promoviše ono što ne promoviše, ali i da li je ok koristiti decu da glume ono što se osuđuje (na pr., deca koja plešu u stilu Cardi B /WAP itd.). Poruka filma je dobra, i na nekin način poziv roditeljima da obrate pažnju na edukaciju svoje dece. Ali se pitam, da li bih da imam dete od 11 godina poželela da ono glumi jednu od junakinja ovog filma u plesnim scenama, i čini mi se da ne bih. I to je ono što je teško u prihvatanju ovog filma, I guess, kod nekih koji nisu Trampov twitter feed fans - da li je ok da deca glume decu koja kopiraju sexualizovane elemente iz plesa pop kulture koju ne razumeju, bez obzira što sam film taj fenomen osuđuje. I ja trenutno nemam odgovor na to, te imam razumevanja za stranu koja osuđuje film samo zbog toga, ali ne razumem stranu koja blanko kaže da film promoviše sexualizaciju dece. 5
Meazza Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) Pop kultura je nikad opscenija, a drustvo paradoskalno mnogo konzervativnije nego u XX veku. Danas je nezamisliva knjiga kao sto je Lolita ili decja crtana junakinja poput Beti Bup. Dusebriznistvo i malogradjanski moral su otisli u kurac krasni, politicka korektnost je postala ozbiljna pretnja kreativnim teznjama, a u isto vreme sve vrvi od jeftine opscenosti i prostakluka. Ne znam na koji nacin se doslo do ovoga. Edited September 13, 2020 by Meazza 9
I*m with the pilots Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) Meni je najbolje kada se diskutuje o filmu koji jos nije pogledan. Dugo to nismo videli, jos od doba Interstellar-a, gde su se neki utrkivali ko ce jace da neodenafilm zbog ove i one naucne netacnosti koju je video u recenziji. Pitanje koje mei postavlja je skroz na mestu, ja se to isto zapitam kako je detetu i roditeljima u onim filmovima u kojima nema niceg eksplicitnog, ali dete glumi nekog ko ce biti zlostavljan, i verovatno zna kontekst svoje uloge? Edited September 13, 2020 by I*m with the pilots
Kenji Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 Problem tinejdžerskih uloga se uvek rešavao tako što se kastuju 20-godišnjaci. U Beverli Hilsu mlade od 16 - 17 godina su glumili sa 24-29!! Deneris u Igri prestola ima 13-15 a glumica 24. Medjutim, tema ovog filma su predseksualna deca i postavlja se pitanje na koji način se uverljivo baviti istom ako realnost izgleda ovako: Inače ko ne prati rad gospodže: Gun in my purse, bitch, I came dressed to kill Who wanna go first? I had them pushing daffodils I'm high as hell, I only took a half a pill I'm on some dumb shit, by the way, what he say? He can tell I ain't missing no meals Come through and fuck him in my automobile Let him eat it with his grills, he keep tellin' me to chill He keep telling me it's real, that he love my sex appeal He say don't like 'em boney, he want something he can grab So I pulled up in the Jag', and I hit him with the jab like Dun-d-d-dun-dun-d-d-dun-dun Oh my gosh, look at her butt Oh my gosh, look at her butt Oh my gosh, look at her butt (Look at her butt) Look at, look at, look at Look, at her butt
3opge Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 ‘Cuties’ Director Speaks Out Amid Backlash Film Sexualizes Children, Netflix Stands by It Netflix stands by the film, calling it "a social commentary against the sexualization of young children." Zack Sharf Sep 11, 2020 9:50 am @zsharf “Cuties” director Maïmouna Doucouré has broken her silence in an interview with Zora amid escalating backlash that claims her award-winning coming-of-age drama sexualizes its young actresses. Outrage over “Cuties” erupted August 20 after Netflix debuted a poster for the film that featured its child stars making suggestive dance poses in revealing outfits. The poster led to accusations the film sexualizes its stars, when in reality “Cuties” openly criticizes the ways in which society puts pressure on young girls to be overtly sexual. While Netflix apologized for inappropriately marketing the film, the September 9 debut of “Cuties” on the streaming platform has caused backlash to explode on social media. Rallying calls for Netflix subscribers to delete their accounts because of “Cuties” resulted in the Twitter hashtags #DeleteNetflix and #CancelNetflix becoming top trends in the U.S. on September 10. The renewed backlash forced Netflix to issue a follow-up statement defending the film. “‘Cuties’ is a social commentary against the sexualization of young children,” a Netflix spokesperson said in a statement to Variety. “It’s an award-winning film and a powerful story about the pressure young girls face on social media and from society more generally growing up — and we’d encourage anyone who cares about these important issues to watch the movie.” Doucouré says it’s clear from the backlash that people upset with her film have not streamed it, telling Zora, “I realize that the people who have started this controversy haven’t yet seen the film. Netflix has apologized to the public and to myself. I’m hoping that these people will watch the movie now that it’s out. I’m eager to see their reaction when they realize that we’re both on the same side of this fight against young children’s hypersexualization.” “Cuties” stars newcomer Fathia Youssouf as Amy, an 11-year-old girl who befriends a group of dancers at her school and begins growing into her burgeoning femininity. Amy’s coming of age experience with her new friends upsets her mother as it is in direct confrontation with the family’s Senegalese Muslim traditions. The idea for “Cuties” was formed after Doucouré attended a neighborhood gathering in Paris and witnessed a group of young girls on a stage dancing in “a very sexually revealing way,” just as the characters in her film do. “I decided to do research to see if they were aware and conscious of what they were doing,” Doucouré said. “I met over a hundred preteens who told me their stories. I asked them how they felt about their femininity in today’s society. I wanted to know how they dealt with their self-image at a time when social media is so important, and they have access to so much information and so many images.” Doucouré said she “created a climate of trust between the children and myself” during filming, adding, “I explained to them everything I was doing and the research that I had done before I wrote this story. I was also lucky that these girls’ parents were also activists, so we were all on the same side. At their age, they’ve seen this kind of dance. Any child with a telephone can find these images on social media these days.” “However, these were composite shots, so the girls weren’t dancing like that all the time,” the director continued. “We also worked with a child psychologist throughout the filming. She’s still working with the children, because I want to make sure that they can navigate this newfound stardom.” Netflix never consulted Doucouré about the marketing for the movie, so she had no control over the first poster for the film that jumpstarted the controversy in the first place. The main takeaway from the backlash for Doucouré is to make sure moving forward she “takes the time to look at each step, even beyond the marketing…Next time, I will see the poster, and we’ll communicate better.” “Cuties” is now streaming on Netflix. 1
kud u maglu Simoviću Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) e ko da sam ga gledao Edited September 14, 2020 by kud u maglu Simoviću 1
Malkmus Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Ne znam da pišem o filmu, niti sam poznavalac. Telegrafski i nabacano. Film mi je možda za 3/10. Ne shvatam ga kao promociju pedofilije, već kao samopromociju autorke i filantropske motive ne razmatram. Socijalni deo mi je izazvao teskobu. Sporne scene su preterano seksualizovane™ i bilo mi je neprijatno da gledam. Možda je drugačije kad si žensko. Konzerva sam ja za ovo. Ima recenzija kod Fridoma na blogu. 1
אַף אֶחָד Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 On 13.9.2020. at 22:39, Kenjeee said: Inače ko ne prati rad gospodže: Oh my gosh, look at her butt Oh my gosh, look at her butt Oh my gosh, look at her butt (Look at her butt) Look at, look at, look at Look, at her butt Inace pesma u ublazenoj formi ali sa istim refrenom sudjeluje u decijem crtacu Sing (koji je smece neopevano sa sve crncima predstavljenim kao majmunima i rusima kao medvedima, prvi sitni lopovi, drugi gangsteri).
Mercuzzio Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 A pre 8 godina onaj "Klip" Maje Miloš u kome 15-godišnjakinja puši plastični falus podobija silne nagrade na festivalima.
adam Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 odgledao i ja i ne video nikakvu pedofiliju. film o odrastanju kao sto vec rekose, nista posebno al simpatican. i otvara par tema. scene plesa su neprijatne ali i trebaju biti, imaju svrhu i mesto u funkciji filma. sasvim ok sto se mene tice. devojcice igraju bas onako kako igraju razne zvezde i zvezdice kojima se dive i kako verovatno mnoge njihove vrsnjakinje igraju po svojim sobama. a kontraverze oko mladih glumica u skakljivim ulogama je vazda bilo u holivudu al to je za holivud i roditelje da odluce. koliko lose utice na te glumice, nemam pojma al evo dole dve koje nisu imale traumaticne posledice i izrasle su u normalne zene sa vrlo pristojnim karijerama. 1
MocaVukotic Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Brooke shields je bolji primer iz pretty baby, bila je jos mladja a videlo se mnogo vise ako se dobro secam
adam Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, MocaVukotic said: Brooke shields je bolji primer iz pretty baby, bila je jos mladja a videlo se mnogo vise ako se dobro secam Ma ona mi pala na pamet pa nasao prvu sliku zarad demonstracije. Moglo je biti i to.
francuski sobar Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) On 13.9.2020. at 18:12, Joe D said: ne razumem samo ovo cancelovanje netflixa, sta bi sa slobodom govora? To je jedina dobra stvar koja se dešava Doduše potpuno neplanirano i iz pogrešnog razloga, čujem da su bruku nekih milijardi sad izgubili a ja sam ih otkazo još ihahah kad jer me cela ova nova serijalna produkcija ni najmanje ne dotiče u stvari lažem ekstremno me nervira. E jebiga sad sam ovaj film moro skidat iz zaliva pa još za inat nadjem sa engliskim dubom pa mi verovatno zbog tog delovo tanje i neuverljivije nego što možda u biti jeste. Upravo su uverljivost dijaloga i brutalni onako skoro dokumentaristčki izraz razlog što su me onomad Klarkovi Delikventi oduvali. Izvesno je da način koji rađen nije bio skroz etičan, npr.ona scena gde klinac od 8-9 godina sa spravom bilo realno ili da je specijalni efekat, scene seksa itd. Zamišljam takav žestok film danas gde imamo još izraženiju seksualizaciju popularne kulture i to one namenjene najmlađima, ništa manji broj zanemarene dece i dece u disfunkcionalnim porodicama i na sve to internet sa svim svojim na dvaklika dostupnim nakaradnostima i izloženostima i zbog kojeg je inače tabuizirana i podcenjenena maloletnička seksualnost sigurno spuštena za minimum dve godine nadole. Mislim takav film definitivno ne može da se snimi koliko god imo poštenu nameru da ukaže na veliki postojeći problem. Edited September 18, 2020 by francuski sobar
3opge Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 5 hours ago, adam said: odgledao i ja i ne video nikakvu pedofiliju. film o odrastanju kao sto vec rekose, nista posebno al simpatican. i otvara par tema. scene plesa su neprijatne ali i trebaju biti, imaju svrhu i mesto u funkciji filma. sasvim ok sto se mene tice. devojcice igraju bas onako kako igraju razne zvezde i zvezdice kojima se dive i kako verovatno mnoge njihove vrsnjakinje igraju po svojim sobama. a kontraverze oko mladih glumica u skakljivim ulogama je vazda bilo u holivudu al to je za holivud i roditelje da odluce. koliko lose utice na te glumice, nemam pojma al evo dole dve koje nisu imale traumaticne posledice i izrasle su u normalne zene sa vrlo pristojnim karijerama. kako bi i zasto gluma u filmu traumaticno uticala na devojcice? imas gore pise i sta je sve rediteljka preduzela, radila sa roditeljima, angazovala i psihologa koji je nastavio da radi sa njima i posle filma. nije to bio jebeni reality gde naguraju muzjake i zenke u neku staju i onda se ovi fircaju unutra, ko koga pre zaskoci.
Fakundo Sava Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 5 hours ago, adam said: dve koje nisu imale traumaticne posledice Pa sad jeste da se nisu obesile,ali to im nije donelo mnogo pozitivnog u životu,niti su imale lako odrastanje Jodi Foster posle Taxiste je progonio neki bolesnik što je imalo neke veze sa pokušajem atentata Ronalda Regana, i često je pričala o svojim psihičkim padovima i problemima A život Bruk Šilds nije baš bajka
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