Coronavirus Covid-19 - opšta tema

[gospa buba]

ako dobro shvatam to se generisalo i onda opet junachki shirilo bash u provinciji u kojoj je delta proshla kroz 80 posto naroda? jesam loshe prochitala?

sent from novi mnogo jak bubamoto.

[vememah]

Kumulativno sve verzije zaključno s deltom (čiji je talas bio najveći), rekao bih.

 

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There was an uptick of cases in Gauteng Province. It was only a small uptick—we had around two hundred cases in the whole country every day. But they started growing, and so we met with our network and said we needed to understand why they were growing in the province that had the largest previous wave of infections of Delta. That variant was extreme in Gauteng, with somewhere between sixty and eighty per cent of people having gotten infected by covid, according to serology testing.

 

[gospa buba]

ovo ce se zavrshiti bukvalno nikad

na virusu ce na kraju da izrastu sheshir frizura i odelce



sent from novi mnogo jak bubamoto.

[barrcode]

ajde malo lepe vesti (valjda)

 

 

 

[Have_Fun]

8 minutes ago, barrcode said:

ajde malo lepe vesti (valjda)

 

 

 

[vememah]

Dakle, kad ukrstimo šta je De Oliveira rekao i ovaj grafikon hospitalizacija, imamo rekordan porast hospitalizacija u pokrajini u kojoj je između 60% i 80% ljudi već preležalo deltu ili neki od ranijih sojeva i u kojoj je potpuno vakcinisano 23% stanovništva* (16% dvodoznim vakcinama, uglavnom Fajzerom, i 7% jednodoznom J&J vakcinom). Nikako ne izgleda dobro.

 

Gauteng ima 15,8 miliona stanovnika, najmanje jednom dozom vakcinisano je 4,36 miliona, 3,6 miliona je potpuno vakcinisano, a jednodozni J&J primio je 1,1 milion stanovnika.
https://sacoronavirus.co.za/latest-vaccine-statistics/

Edited December 2, 2021 by vememah

[Friend]

Ako je zaista blaza priroda virusa koji ne ostavlja posledice, onda ko ga yebe moze da se proglasi pobeda i fala fajzeru i ostalim belosvetskim muljarama

[vememah]

6 minutes ago, Friend said:

Ako je zaista blaza priroda virusa koji ne ostavlja posledice

 

To je baš veliko AKO.

 

Prijavljeni skok sa 81 na 149 na kiseoniku za nedelju dana (23 -> 30.11) u Gautengu ne obećava.

 

https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/

 

Uz to, s ovakvom brzinom zaražavanja tamo gde je veliki broj preležalih, bolnice će se prepuniti dok si rekao keks pa će stopa smrtnosti drastično rasti jer će ljudi koje bi s lakoćom mogao spasti u bolnici umirati po kućama.

Edited December 2, 2021 by vememah

[vememah]

 

30-40 moguće zaraženih omikronom (zasad) od 120 prisutnih vakcinisanih osoba posle kompanijske proslave u Norveškoj održane u petak kojoj je prisustvovalo 120 ljudi, među kojima i neki koji su nedavno bili u Južnoafričkoj Republici.

 

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Suspected B.1.1.529 (Omicron) spread at Christmas dinner in Norway

 A report, in Norwegian, in Dagbladet, suggests extensive transmission of B.1.1.529 at a Christmas party in Oslo, Norway.

The article in Norwegian is here (for those with the appropriate linguistic skills):

Var på julebord i solenergi-selskap 

I used Google Translate to extract the essentials of the article.

Discussion of the article follows after the quoted text.

 

The health authorities in the district of Frogner in Oslo have earlier today stated that 30-40 people are suspected of being infected by the omikron variant after a "social event under the auspices of the job". This afternoon, Dagbladet receives confirmation that it is a Christmas table in the solar energy company Scatec.

 

- I can confirm that it is Scatec, Tine Ravlo, assistant district chief physician and infection control chief physician in Frogner, informs Dagbladet.

 

120 participants

 

The company - which has a South Africa office - has earlier today informed E24 that an employee tested positive for corona after Christmas dinner on Friday 26 November. 120 people participated in the event, which took place at Frogner. Some of the participants had recently been to the Cape Town office.

 

Scatec's communications manager Stian Tvede Karlsen has stated that the company implemented a strict infection control regime at the party; only vaccinated had access, and everyone had to test negative in advance.

Facts about the omikron variant

 

    The variant was first discovered in South Africa, which notified the WHO on 24 November. Since then, it has been proven in a number of countries around the world.

    The WHO has classified the mutation as "worrying". The first two cases in Norway were confirmed on Wednesday 1 December in Øygarden municipality, west of Bergen.

    FHI assumes that the variant may be more contagious, but that it is unlikely to cause more serious illness.

    Norway and many other countries have introduced entry restrictions from a number of countries in southern Africa. Infected must be in isolation for seven days, and close contacts must be quarantined for ten days. This also applies to fully vaccinated.

 

Source: WHO, Government, NIPH, NTB

 

Infection control doctor Ravlo states that the city health service became aware of a possible omicron outbreak when a participant in the event, who had also been traveling in South Africa, tested positive for corona on Monday this week.

 

Then more and more partygoers tested positive. As omikron is believed to be a more contagious corona variant, originating in southern Africa, the city health service put two and two together and tested all of the participants. Now they are waiting for an answer as to whether it is an omicron.

 

- But if the sequencing shows that it is about omicron, we assume that the others are also infected with omicron, says Ravlo - and at the same time keeps the possibility open that it may be about other variants.

 

 

The facts appear to be that 120 staff attended a Christmas dinner on Friday 26th November 2021.

One person who had attended the Christmas dinner and who had also been travelling in South Africa tested positive for Covid-19 on Monday 29th November.

 City authorities then tested the other attendees at the Christmas dinner.

Reportely 30-40 attendees tested positive for Covid-19.

The attendees reportedly were all vaccinated (undefined in the article) and had tested negative for Covid-19 (timing of test relative to the Christmas dinner wasn't stated).

If, as reported, 25-30% of attendees at the Christmas dinner have Covid-19 then two possibilities exist:

• This is a super-spreader event for B.1.167 (Delta)
• This demonstrates how readily B.1.1.529 (Omicron) transmits even in a reportedly vaccinated group.

If, as reported, the group were all vaccinated against Covid-19 a super-spreader event of B.1.617 (Delta) seems very unlikely.

If, and I stress if, one individual who had recently travelled to South Africa and who (presumably) had the B.1.1.529 variant transmitted the B.1.1.529 variant of SARS-CoV-2 to 25-30% of a group of vaccinated people in Norway, there must be a very significant degree of vaccine escape! 

 

https://coronashock.blogspot.com/2021/12/suspected-b11529-omicron-spread-at.html

Edited December 2, 2021 by vememah

[Have_Fun]

Ne rusi nam sneska breeeeeee (vazi za post pre ovog iznad)

Edited December 2, 2021 by Have_Fun

[Baldrick S.]

Deo abstracta istraživanja o zaražavanju u Nemačkoj. (Ukratko: 9 out 10 infections unvaccinated person is involved). Kog ne mrzi da čita celo istraživanje:


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/early/2021/11/26/2021.11.24.21266831.full.pdf](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/early/2021/11/26/2021.11.24.21266831.full.pdf

"...Here, we estimate that about 67%–76% of all new infections are caused by unvaccinated individuals, implying that only 24%–33% are caused by the vaccinated. Furthermore, we estimate 38%–51% of new infections to be caused by unvaccinated individuals infecting other unvaccinated individuals. In total, unvaccinated individuals are expected to be involved in 8–9 of 10 new infections. We further show that decreas- ing the transmissibility of the unvaccinated by, e. g. targeted NPIs, causes a steeper decrease in the effective reproduction number R than decreasing the transmissibility of vaccinated individuals, potentially leading to temporary epidemic control. Furthermore, reducing contacts between vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals serves to decrease R in a similar manner as increasing vaccine uptake. Taken together, our results contribute to the public discourse regarding policy changes in pandemic response and highlight the importance of combined measures, such as vaccination campaigns and contact reduction, to achieve epidemic control and preventing an overload of public health systems."

[Tsai]

45 minutes ago, vememah said:

 

30-40 moguće zaraženih omikronom (zasad) od 120 prisutnih vakcinisanih osoba posle kompanijske proslave u Norveškoj održane u petak kojoj je prisustvovalo 120 ljudi, među kojima i neki koji su nedavno bili u Južnoafričkoj Republici.

 

https://coronashock.blogspot.com/2021/12/suspected-b11529-omicron-spread-at.html

 

Kurcu ne valja. Uzas. Izludecemo

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[bags]

Ko bi rekao recimo 2019  da cemo imati 1000 opstih stranica o nekoj epidemiji.

[Tsai]

I da ce ih biti jos bar 1000