Coronavirus Covid-19 - opšta tema

[cedo]

celo to kolo je odigrano sa publikom verovatno ... fudbal ne pratim mnogo, ali znam da sam to gledao

ne znam da li je to poslednja kolo sto je odigrano

[Lancia]

1 minute ago, renne said:

da, 79000 duša je bilo

Mada ja mislim da je veca bomba bila odlazak navijaca Atletika u Liverpul.

[renne]

2 minutes ago, cedo said:

celo to kolo je odigrano sa publikom verovatno ... fudbal ne pratim mnogo, ali znam da sam to gledao

ne znam da li je to poslednja kolo sto je odigrano

odigrano još jedno

Edited April 11, 2020 by renne

[jms_uk]

Mali pad u odnosu na juce (980)

 

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UK sees 917 more deaths

We've just got the UK-wide figures from the government.

A further 917 coronavirus-related hospital deaths have been reported in the UK. 

It brings the total number of deaths to 9,875, as of 17:00 BST on Friday.

The Department of Health and Social Care says that, as of 09:00 BST on Saturday, 78,991 people have tested positive for Covid-19.

The death toll announced yesterday was 980. A reminder that these figures are only for deaths which have taken place in hospital.

 

Ali izgleda da ce u ponedeljak da se predje 10k

 

[Ivo Petović]

S tim da su u UK to samo umrli u bolnicama. Rekli su da će staračke domove naknadno uračunati.

[cedo]

11 minutes ago, jms_uk said:

Mali pad u odnosu na juce (980)

 

 

Ali izgleda da ce u ponedeljak da se predje 10k

 

 

ovde pise da "A reminder that these figures are only for deaths which have taken place in hospital."

znaci tamo tek moze da se ocekuje dodatno broj iz starackih domova (desava se u francuskoj) ili ljudi koji su umrli po svojim domovima

nije mi to bas jasno zasto je to tako... 

ovde u makedoniji se redovno upisuju ljudi ma gde preminuli (bilo je par sto su nadjeni u kuci, ili uopste, iz bilo kog razloga nisu ni stigli do bolnice)

 

 

edit: ajd kada sam se vec javio

 

makedonija danas: 49 novih, 586 testiranih, 2 preminula

 

ukupno: 760 registrovanih, 7.653 testiranih, 34 preminula, 41 izlecen

 

oba lidera dve najvece politicke partije negativni (vmro i sdsm) na test i u izolaciji 7 dana valjda zato sto im je rizicni intervju sa pozitivnim novinarom bio pre vise od sedam dana

Edited April 11, 2020 by cedo

[Dankan Ajdaho]

8 hours ago, dare... said:

Mislim da bi sa velikom pažnjom trebali da ispratimo Austriju. Ona je 10-15 dana ispred nas i predstavlja izvanredan reper za sve mere popuštanja, strategije, testove,  brojeve i tabele koje nas čekaju...

 

Ne možemo, Austrija je država, mi smo provizorijum.

[Peter Fan]

bilo je samo pitanje vremena, ali sad su Yanomamo indijanci zarazeni:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-remote-amazonian-tribe-has-recorded-its-first-coronavirus-case/ar-BB12q1Tj?ocid=spartanntp

[pasha]

10 minutes ago, maharaja said:

Ne znam gde si video jednocifrene brojeve, ali recimo juče je bilo 163 novih zaraženih na oko 5500 testova.

 

Ali da, mere se popuštaju u smislu da se otvaraju neke radnje koje su ranije bile zatvorene, uz dodatne mere higijene i odstojanja u njima.

 

Ljudi su od uvođenja mera mogli da se šetaju, idu u parkove, trčkaraju i bave se sportom napolju. Naravno sami ili sa najužom porodicom. Jedina nova mera je da u šumi kada trčiš i ako nema nikog okolo ne moraš da nosiš masku. Vanredno stanje je produženo do prvog maja.

 

Danas su parkovi puni, ali odstojanje je između peškira i đebadi. Ljudi se sunčaju, čitaju i piju pivo. Maske i rukavice (u prodavnicama) su i dalje svuda obavezne.

 

Ti si u Ceskoj ili Kanadi?

Gledam danasnje podatke koji kazu da imaju 3 zarazena. Ako laze worldmeters onda lazem i ja.

[vememah]

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Opinions

I spent six days on a ventilator with covid-19. It saved me, but my life is not the same.

David Lat

David Lat is the founding editor of Above the Law, a website covering the legal profession, and a managing director at Lateral Link, a legal recruiting firm.

The ventilator has become an object of national fascination — and controversy. The previously obscure medical device, which mechanically helps patients to breathe, has shot to worldwide fame during the coronavirus pandemic. Many patients with serious cases of covid-19 suffer respiratory failure and will die if they can’t be connected to ventilators.

I should know. I spent six days on a ventilator, in critical condition in the intensive care unit at New York University Langone medical center in New York City. I would not be here today without a ventilator.

On March 16, I was admitted to the hospital with the coronavirus. I had a number of flu-like symptoms, including fever, chills, aches and fatigue. But my most serious complaint — as someone who suffered from asthma as a child and has exercise-induced asthma as an adult, albeit managed well with an inhaler — was difficulty breathing.

I spent my first few days in the hospital in stable condition, receiving supplemental oxygen. But on the evening of March 20, I took a turn for the worse. Late that night, I learned that I would need to be intubated, or placed on a ventilator.

This terrified me. A few days earlier, after my admission to the hospital, my physician father had warned me: “You better not get put on a ventilator. People don’t come back from that.”

As the nurses prepared me for the intubation, I thought to myself: It’s not my time to die. My husband and I have a 2-year-old son. I want to see him graduate from high school, graduate from college. If he gets married or has kids of his own someday, I want to be there. I started praying the Hail Mary, over and over.

I have hazy memories of the intubation. My anesthesiologist was a woman with a slight Caribbean accent and an authoritative, reassuring demeanor. In my overwhelmed state, it seemed that a dozen people were in the room, when, in reality, it was probably just a handful. Aided by anesthesia, I soon fell asleep.

I spent the next six days basically asleep, under sedation, the ventilator serving as my lungs. I remember nothing from this period. I have since learned that some patients have nightmares or hallucinations while on ventilators, so I view myself as very fortunate.

Eventually, my doctors faced a choice: take me off the ventilator and see if I could breathe on my own, or give me a tracheostomy, which would have required an incision into my neck to insert a breathing tube directly into my windpipe. After conducting tests to assess my ability to breathe on my own, the doctors decided to take me off the ventilator or extubate me. The extubation succeeded. With the aid of supplemental oxygen, I could breathe independently again.

As a patient whose life was saved by a ventilator, I believe it is an outrage and an embarrassment that a nation as wealthy as ours is even discussing possible ventilator shortages. Thankfully the United States has managed to avoid widespread rationing partly due to ventilators being sent from places of low need to places of high need. We need to make sure that every patient who needs a ventilator can get one so that as many of them as possible can survive.

This is especially true because survival rates of ventilated patients are low. My father’s dark comment reflected a grim reality: 40 percent to 50 percent of patients with severe respiratory distress do not survive being on ventilators. In New York City, where I was hospitalized, 80 percent or more of coronavirus patients who end up on ventilators have died.

For those of us lucky enough to get off ventilators, our lives are not the same. Many patients who come off ventilators suffer lasting physical, mental and emotional issues, including cognitive deficits, lost jobs and psychological issues, such as depression and post-traumatic stress disorder.

For me, my lungs must rebuild their capacity. I experience breathlessness from even mild exertion. I used to run marathons; now I can’t walk across a room or up a flight of stairs without getting winded. I can’t go around the block for fresh air unless my husband pushes me in a wheelchair. When I shower, I can’t stand the entire time; I take breaks from standing to sit down on a plastic stool I have placed inside my bathtub.

Being on the ventilator for almost a week damaged my vocal cords, and now my voice is extremely hoarse. My speech pathologist expressed optimism that the damage is not permanent. Only time will tell.

I’m not complaining. I am incredibly grateful to be alive. And for that, I have the ventilator to thank.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/09/my-near-death-experience-ventilator/

Edited April 11, 2020 by vememah

[borris_]

Danasnje cifre nisu loše za sada, uglavnom sve padaju. Nadam se da nije vikend uzrok ovome.

[Frank Pembleton]

Opinions

I spent six days on a ventilator with covid-19. It saved me, but my life is not the same.

David Lat

David Lat is the founding editor of Above the Law, a website covering the legal profession, and a managing director at Lateral Link, a legal recruiting firm.

The ventilator has become an object of national fascination — and controversy. The previously obscure medical device, which mechanically helps patients to breathe, has shot to worldwide fame during the coronavirus pandemic. Many patients with serious cases of covid-19 suffer respiratory failure and will die if they can’t be connected to ventilators.

I should know. I spent six days on a ventilator, in critical condition in the intensive care unit at New York University Langone medical center in New York City. I would not be here today without a ventilator.

On March 16, I was admitted to the hospital with the coronavirus. I had a number of flu-like symptoms, including fever, chills, aches and fatigue. But my most serious complaint — as someone who suffered from asthma as a child and has exercise-induced asthma as an adult, albeit managed well with an inhaler — was difficulty breathing.

I spent my first few days in the hospital in stable condition, receiving supplemental oxygen. But on the evening of March 20, I took a turn for the worse. Late that night, I learned that I would need to be intubated, or placed on a ventilator.

This terrified me. A few days earlier, after my admission to the hospital, my physician father had warned me: “You better not get put on a ventilator. People don’t come back from that.”

As the nurses prepared me for the intubation, I thought to myself: It’s not my time to die. My husband and I have a 2-year-old son. I want to see him graduate from high school, graduate from college. If he gets married or has kids of his own someday, I want to be there. I started praying the Hail Mary, over and over.

I have hazy memories of the intubation. My anesthesiologist was a woman with a slight Caribbean accent and an authoritative, reassuring demeanor. In my overwhelmed state, it seemed that a dozen people were in the room, when, in reality, it was probably just a handful. Aided by anesthesia, I soon fell asleep.

I spent the next six days basically asleep, under sedation, the ventilator serving as my lungs. I remember nothing from this period. I have since learned that some patients have nightmares or hallucinations while on ventilators, so I view myself as very fortunate.

Eventually, my doctors faced a choice: take me off the ventilator and see if I could breathe on my own, or give me a tracheostomy, which would have required an incision into my neck to insert a breathing tube directly into my windpipe. After conducting tests to assess my ability to breathe on my own, the doctors decided to take me off the ventilator or extubate me. The extubation succeeded. With the aid of supplemental oxygen, I could breathe independently again.

As a patient whose life was saved by a ventilator, I believe it is an outrage and an embarrassment that a nation as wealthy as ours is even discussing possible ventilator shortages. Thankfully the United States has managed to avoid widespread rationing partly due to ventilators being sent from places of low need to places of high need. We need to make sure that every patient who needs a ventilator can get one so that as many of them as possible can survive.

This is especially true because survival rates of ventilated patients are low. My father’s dark comment reflected a grim reality: 40 percent to 50 percent of patients with severe respiratory distress do not survive being on ventilators. In New York City, where I was hospitalized, 80 percent or more of coronavirus patients who end up on ventilators have died.

For those of us lucky enough to get off ventilators, our lives are not the same. Many patients who come off ventilators suffer lasting physical, mental and emotional issues, including cognitive deficits, lost jobs and psychological issues, such as depression and post-traumatic stress disorder.

For me, my lungs must rebuild their capacity. I experience breathlessness from even mild exertion. I used to run marathons; now I can’t walk across a room or up a flight of stairs without getting winded. I can’t go around the block for fresh air unless my husband pushes me in a wheelchair. When I shower, I can’t stand the entire time; I take breaks from standing to sit down on a plastic stool I have placed inside my bathtub.

Being on the ventilator for almost a week damaged my vocal cords, and now my voice is extremely hoarse. My speech pathologist expressed optimism that the damage is not permanent. Only time will tell.

I’m not complaining. I am incredibly grateful to be alive. And for that, I have the ventilator to thank.
 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/09/my-near-death-experience-ventilator/
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[Have_Fun]

Juce u PL preko 10000 testova i 380 zarazenih
Danas preko 11000 testova i za sad 133

Do juce nikada nije islo preko 10k testova..

Dobro je ovo sad.. desavalo se pre 5-6 dana da na 5-6k testova bude 450 zarazenih.

 

Valjda ce se smiriti ovo sranje kroz 5-6 nedelja.. hocu kuci malo, prsnucu :S

[cedo]

ajde sad ... jbes bos drzavu i njene institucije i zaposlene ... to sve treba zatuci da vise ne postoji

 

sad nisu sigurni da su ovo dvoje iz velesa mrtvi duze od mesec dana

 

За мистериозната смрт на велешанката ќе биде известена и СЗО

Од министерството велат дека, информациите кои вчера се пренесоа во медиумите дека лицата биле починати повеќе од еден месец, не се точни и се чекаат конечните анализи.

 

„Денес во Институтот за јавно здравје се прави уште една анализа на материјалот кој е земен од трахеата за да се потврди позитивниот резултат на коронавирус. Што се однесува до останатите првични информации за случајот, засега се знае само дека жената била сигурно почината повеќе од една недела“,

велат од министерството.

 

 

[bags]

47 minutes ago, Dankan Ajdaho said:

 

Ne možemo, Austrija je država, mi smo provizorijum.

 

Daleko je Austrija od ozbiljne drzave kakvom je mi smatramo. Naravno i dalje je to na jednom solidnom EU nivou ali ÖVP je bas veliko zlo.

Na srecu samo da FPÖ nije vise u vlasti. To bi tek bio raspad sistema.