Trump - hoće li biti impeachment ili 8 godina drugačijeg predsednikovanja?

[gone fishing]

13 minutes ago, ObiW said:

 

Kao rezultat toga imamo veci deficit nego ranije. To recimo Klintonu nije palo na pamet nego je 1995 skresao vojni budzet i kao rezultat imao balanced budget...

 

Zamisli taj koncept, trosis manje nego sto zaradis. Svaki trgovac to radi, ne mora da bude narocito vest. To "tramapara, vest trgovac" nikad nije umeo da uradi, zato je onoliko puta bakrotirao.

 

Mozete li da zamislite nekog drugog predsednika koji gadja dronom iranskog generala i to ne bilo kojeg nego komandanta elitnih iranskih snaga? Ovo bombardovanje americke baze je bio odgovor na to.

 

veći deficit vs par hiljada američkih vojnika koji bi poginuli u agresiji na iran, da ne pominjem par stotina hiljada poginulih sirijaca i iranaca i novih par milona izbeglica da je popustio pred jastrebovima iz deep state

- ova likvidacija generala je bio rizičan potez, a opet možda i dogovor sa mulama da se ukloni kavgadžija koji je svima zadavao glavobolje, po smešnom iranskom odgovoru biće da im nije baš bilo toliko stalo do đenerala

[Gandalf]

39 minutes ago, ObiW said:

Pa eto konacno smo ustanovili sta je za tebe "povukao se iz Sirije". Ostavio 100 vojnika i avione da lete nad njima. Po toj definiciji su se povukli i sa Kosova. 

začudih se, kako bre 100!?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/18/us/politics/us-troops-syria-russia.html

The military said on Friday that it was sending Bradley fighting vehicles, advanced radar and more fighter jet patrols to northeast Syria, three weeks after a Russian armored vehicle rammed an American ground patrol and injured seven American soldiers.

The reinforcements, which add about 100 troops to the more than 500 U.S. forces already there, represent a show of force in response to the clash last month that caught American commanders off guard. They are also likely to escalate tensions between the two rival powers in the country’s hotly contested northeast.

 

Edited October 8, 2020 by Gandalf

[ObiW]

50 minutes ago, gone fishing said:

veći deficit vs par hiljada američkih vojnika koji bi poginuli u agresiji na iran, da ne pominjem par stotina hiljada poginulih sirijaca i iranaca i novih par milona izbeglica da je popustio pred jastrebovima iz deep state

- ova likvidacija generala je bio rizičan potez, a opet možda i dogovor sa mulama da se ukloni kavgadžija koji je svima zadavao glavobolje, po smešnom iranskom odgovoru biće da im nije baš bilo toliko stalo do đenerala

"... par hiljada americkih vojnika poginulih u agresiji na Iran". Ja mislim da kada bi bilo koji general to rekao momentalno bi otisao na psihijatrijski pregled. 

 

Cuj jebote da onoliku zemlju porobis sa par hiljada poginulih... toga se niko do sada nije setio. Svaka cast.

 

"po smesnom iranskom odgovoru". U proslom postu je spominjano neko "iransko bombardovanje američke baze". To je smesan odgovor? Kada su iranci pre toga bombardovali americku bazu?

[ObiW]

37 minutes ago, Gandalf said:

začudih se, kako bre 100!?

 

To vidi sa Leim, ona kaze

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ostavio je i 100 (as in one hundred) US service members na braniku od ruske agresije

 

[Skyhighatrist]

 

 

[gone fishing]

3 minutes ago, ObiW said:

"... par hiljada americkih vojnika poginulih u agresiji na Iran". Ja mislim da kada bi bilo koji general to rekao momentalno bi otisao na psihijatrijski pregled. 

 

Cuj jebote da onoliku zemlju porobis sa par hiljada poginulih... toga se niko do sada nije setio. Svaka cast.

 

"po smesnom iranskom odgovoru". U proslom postu je spominjano neko "iransko bombardovanje američke baze". To je smesan odgovor? Kada su iranci pre toga bombardovali americku bazu?

ko kaže da bi ih nužno okupirali ako bi osetili tvrdo ne bi išli jako do samog kraja, sa druge strane ako bi iranci pružili otpor kao iračani okupirali bi ih ali bi imali problema sa partizanskim otporom 5x žešćim nego u avganistanu imho

- odgovor u kojem je poginulo 0 i povređeno 0 amera je kao ozbiljan ili misliš da iranci ne mogu da izvedu neku ozbiljniju akciju u iraku ili siriji gde bi napali neki konvoje za snabdevanje ili neke patrole te mekše vojne mete, ako žele, sa tim raketama mogu da gađaju i ambasade po regionu ako bi poželeli da kazne cia koja tu ima kancelarije

[Zverilla]

4 hours ago, gone fishing said:

trampara je vešt trgovac, dao je vojno-industrijskom komplexu povećanje vojnog budžeta u zamenu za  nepokretanje novih ratova

- možete li da zamislite nekog drugog predsednika u njegovoj fotelji koji bi iskulirao iransko bombardovanje američke baze u januaru ove godine, pa već u februaru bi imali najveći konflikt na bliskom istoku prema kome bi iračko-iranski rat ličio na kafansku tuču

- dalje izbegao je konfrontaciju sa rusijom oko ukr. i sirije, dozvolio je rusima da spasu asada i sačuvaju svoju luku u mediteranu, mogao je i da tu izigrava pobunjeničku avijaciju kao obama u libiji i asad bi pao za mesec dana

- oba ova ishoda bi izrael zdušno prihvatio i podržao, nima je najvažnije da mule ne dobiju atomku, jer kada se to desi mogu samo kolektivno da se isele u evropu i prepuste državu zakonitim vlasnicima palestincima

 

Tramp vest trgovac i strateg 

[Micko8]

 

Kakav car, your favorite president

Edited October 8, 2020 by Micko8

[3opge]

19 minutes ago, Zverilla said:

 

Tramp vest trgovac i strateg 

 

i mirotvorac.

 

[eumeswil]

 

[ObiW]

48 minutes ago, Micko8 said:

 

Kakav car, your favorite president

Priznaj da si pao na kontrast boje lica i šake. 

[ObiW]

1 hour ago, gone fishing said:

ko kaže da bi ih nužno okupirali ako bi osetili tvrdo ne bi išli jako do samog kraja, sa druge strane ako bi iranci pružili otpor kao iračani okupirali bi ih ali bi imali problema sa partizanskim otporom 5x žešćim nego u avganistanu imho

 

Krenuli bi, poginulo bi par hiljada i onda bi stali.  A možda i ne bi, ali onda bi ih sackeli Prle i Tihi  iranian style.

 

Pada Iran, pada veza Sirijaca i Hezbolaha sa Iranom. Nema vojne obuke, nema dobrovoljaca, nema ni iranskog oruzja. Potpuna promena karata na BI. I sve to sa par hiljada zrtava? Koji americki predsednik bi rekao "ne" na to?

 

Nisam se ovako smejao od vremena kada je Uki bistrio politiku. 

 

1 hour ago, gone fishing said:

 

- odgovor u kojem je poginulo 0 i povređeno 0 amera je kao ozbiljan ili misliš da iranci ne mogu da izvedu neku ozbiljniju akciju u iraku ili siriji gde bi napali neki konvoje za snabdevanje ili neke patrole te mekše vojne mete, ako žele, sa tim raketama mogu da gađaju i ambasade po regionu ako bi poželeli da kazne cia koja tu ima kancelarije

 

Pre mesec dana su planirali da otmu ambasadorku u JARu. Par nedelja posle se oglasio vrhovni mula i rekao da i dalje planiraju osvetu za ubijenog generala. Toliko o tome da se nisu nasekirali sto im je smaknut najbolji general.

[dragance]

Ovaj... @ObiW Iranci su upozorili da će ići akcija protiv baze, zbog koje su se svi sklonili i nije bilo žrtava. Da su hteli mogli su nastaviti i drugde. Jednostavno, to je bilo face saving operacija za njih. 

[3opge]

Na direktan trumpov poziv fasisti su se trenutno odazvali i organizovali za kidnapovanje. 

Trebalo bi sada uhapsiti fasisticko govno  

Alleged FBI-thwarted plot to kidnap Gov. Whitmer came after Trump called to 'LIBERATE MICHIGAN'

Posted By Lee DeVito on Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 1:58 pm

• State of Michigan
• Gov. Gretchen Whitmer at a recent press conference.

Months after President Donald Trump egged on right-wing protesters to "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!" in a tweet, six men have been arrested and charged as part of an alleged plot to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

According to an FBI affidavit revealed on Thursday, the men had allegedly planned to kidnap Whitmer ahead of the November election and hold her hostage in Wisconsin. The men went as far as surveilling Whitmer's vacation home on the west side of the state on two separate, coordinated occasions, and planned to use explosives to distract law enforcement, which they had began testing.

Attorney General Dana Nessel called the plot "serious and credible" in a press conference on Thursday. The men had been talking about the plan since at least the summer, Nessel said. Trump tweeted "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!" in April.

The men are Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, and Brandon Caserta. All are from Michigan, except for Croft, who is from Delaware. Each could face up to life in prison if convicted.

"Snatch and grab, man. Grab the fuckin' Governor," Fox said, according to a secret recording. "Just grab the bitch. Because at that point, we do that, dude — it's over."

Several of the men talked about overthrowing the government and creating a "self-sufficient" society, according to the complaint. Additional charges accuse seven members of the militia "Wolverine Watchmen" of working with the group, plotting to recruit 200 men to attack Michigan's Capitol Building, kidnap other government officials, attack law enforcement officers, and attempt to start a "civil war."

The men charged connected to Wolverine Watchmen are Paul Bellar of Milford, Shawn Fix of Belleville, Eric Molitor of Cadillac, Michael Null of Plainwell, William Null of Shelbyville, Pete Musico of Munith, and Joseph Morrison of Munith.

Nessel said the investigation started earlier this year after law enforcement became aware of the plot on social media. The would-be kidnappers used encrypted messaging platforms and code words to try to evade detection, but by using undercover agents and confidential sources, the FBI was able to thwart the plan.

Some of the code words included "cake" and "cupcakes" to refer to explosives, like, "Maybe we should just make a bunch of cupcakes and send them out."

The men even met in a secret basement under the Grand Rapids vacuum shop where Fox was living, which was accessible from a hidden trapdoor under a rug. Though Fox took everyone's cellphones for security purposes, an undercover informant was wearing a wire.

The men were arrested when they met this week to pool money to buy weapons and explosives.

The investigation is ongoing.

"All of us in Michigan can disagree about politics, but those disagreements should never amount to violence," Matthew Schneider, the United States Attorney for the Eastern District, said at the press conference

Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, a Republican, also denounced the would-be kidnappers.

"A threat against our Governor is a threat against us all," he wrote on Twitter. "We condemn those who plotted against her and our government. They are not patriots. There is no honor in their actions. They are criminals and traitors, and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

Previously, Shirkey called armed right-wing protesters who stormed the Capitol in April "jackasses."

However, Shirkey also contributed to the heated rhetoric around Whitmer's emergency powers, which she has used to manage the coronavirus pandemic. In April, Whitmer extended her emergency powers without Congressional authority.

"April 30, 2020: a day in our State’s legacy which will last in infamy.
Familiar and fear provoking words. But accurate and honest," he wrote on Facebook, evoking the attack on Pearl Harbor. He also equated Whitmer to a tyrant. "Michigan now has earned the distinction of having a Governor, drunk on the addiction of unfettered power, declaring that she, and she alone, can and will continue to act unilaterally to lock down our society, our culture, and our economy," he added.

According to the FBI, Fox said Whitmer "has no checks and balances at all. She has uncontrolled power right now," and Croft said, "All good things must come to an end."

Last week, the Michigan Supreme Court struck down Whitmer's emergency executive orders, declaring them unconstitutional.

Whitmer is expected to deliver a statement at 3 p.m.

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Edited October 8, 2020 by 3opge

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