How I lost my religion

[Utvara]

Valjda kod Rajha i kontrakulture 60ih?

 

IMHO neosnovani desničarski strah, možda i sindrom "krađe užitka".

 

Činjenica je da je mnogo eksperimentisano 60ih i ranih 70ih, u sferama nauke i akademije kao i "privatno" u sferi kontrakulture i šireg društva. Ovde mislim na Američku kontrakulturu, tamo je bilo najviše slobode da se eksperimentiše mada je bilo toga i u Evropi. Ti politički (zatvorena društva/komune/kultovi) i svojevrsni seksualni i društveni eksperimenti koji su prosto probali nešto, probali svojom glavom da li je zid tvrd i ustanovili da je zid tvrd i da se trebamo vratiti klasičnim načinima društvene organizacije.

 

Mislim na stvari kao što je npr. The Source Family.

 

Ali to je najbanalniji primer. Mnogi su društveni eksperimenti tada probani, ekstravagantni eksperimenti su vođeni, bilo je para od vojske i od države za nešto što bi danas bilo bačeno ustranu kao ideološki nepodobno.

 

Amerika je konzervativnija sada nego što je bila 70ih u pojedinim aspektima. Regan je vratio sat unazad.

Seksualne i društvene norme su u nekom režimu najbolje prakse. Hrišćanski moral nije sudbonosno nagrižen, tu je i snažno postoji. Papa je i dalje Katolik...

Edited September 24, 2016 by Utvara

[Lord Protector]

Gde ovde?

Ovde i sada, mi živimo u rajhovskom svetu.

Edited September 24, 2016 by slow

[Utvara]

Ovde i sada, mi živimo u rajhovskom svetu.

 

IMHO to je notorna budalaština što si sad rekao. Ozbiljno moraš da argumentuješ takvu tvrdnju.

[eumeswil]

Rajh baš i nije zagovornik seks. anarhije i "slobodne ljubavi".

 

 

Source: Children of the future

 

During adolescence, the pace and manner of psychic development vary so greatly that, with time, problems will occur in a relationship that force the partners to separate. There are also morbid reasons for changing partners: the inability to stay with a partner for a long period of time; the total inability to experience sexual gratification; suppressed and repressed homosexuality, which disrupts any relationship with a partner of the opposite sex or prevents the relationship from deepening. Partners are sometimes also quickly changed out of ambition (“I must have ‘had’ so and so many boys/girls”). Such an attitude is not only damaging to the person who holds it but also to all other people involved. If, for example, a boy sleeps with one girl after another, the girls suffer badly. A boy who behaves like this is usually sexually disturbed. It is just as unhealthy, damaging, and a sign of our moribund sexual conditions when a girl, out of ambition or a desire for power, deliberately attracts many boys to herself and then plays with them like a cat with a mouse, not treating any of them seriously and merely taking pleasure in teasing them without becoming a sexual friend of any of them. In such cases there is always something wrong with the girl; love is replaced by the desire to dominate.

 

If we say that a person is often forced to sleep with this or that person in order to find a suitable partner, this statement should not be raised to the level of a theory. It is a fact that a healthy boy or girl whose sexuality has fully developed can usually tell beforehand whether a girl or a boy is suited for them. Of course, wrong choices can still be made. There are so many factors on which sexual adaptation and gratification depend that it is impossible to determine them all precisely, e.g., ability to develop attitudes of mutual friendship, temperament, common interests, rhythm of sexual needs, etc. Besides, our sex education has made these factors so enormously complicated by crippling sexuality from childhood on that problems are the rule and a calm, well-ordered, satisfying sex life is the exception.

 

If we wish to bring the sexual interests of youths into harmony with their great future-shaping tasks, to which we assign primary importance, then young people must gain access to a well-ordered and satisfactory sex life. However, as a rule this cannot be achieved by swearing eternal faithfulness or by sleeping with all and sundry. Again, we do not wish to establish any moral principles here because they would never succeed, and counter to the view held by many people, we maintain that it is not necessary to feel uncomfortable or even to condemn young people if they occasionally “kick over the traces.” Nor will we condemn or despise anyone who is capable of living according to the principle of eternal faithfulness. Let me say it once more: Our sole duty is to gather all our strength and courage for the battle to fully develop the creative urges and the will to live displayed by young people, and we must wage this battle all the way through to final victory. As far as the questions of sexual life are concerned, all we have to do is to offer each other mutual assistance in solving young people’s difficulties.

 

 

 

 

Da, npr. Srbija je baš Rajhovska ubilo se :D, zemlji gde postoji javno zgražavanje nad onim tekstom u teen časopisu prošle godine.

Edited September 24, 2016 by miki.bg

[Meazza]

Ovde i sada, mi živimo u rajhovskom svetu.

 

U totalitarnom drustvu gde nas kontrolisu pornografijom? 

 

I to kazes ti koji ostavljas najkvalitetnije postove na Desanki? Razocaran sam.

[Lord Protector]

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/jul/08/wilhelm-reich-free-love-orgasmatron

 

 

In January 1964, Time magazine declared that "Dr Wilhelm Reich may have been a prophet. For now it sometimes seems that all America is one big orgone box":

 

With today's model, it is no longer necessary to sit in cramped quarters for a specific time. Improved and enlarged to encompass the continent, the big machine works on its subjects continuously, day and night. From innumerable screens and stages, posters and pages, it flashes larger-than-life-sized images of sex. From countless racks and shelves, it pushes the books that a few years ago were considered pornography. From myriad loudspeakers, it broadcasts the words and rhythms of pop-music erotica. And constantly, over the intellectual Muzak, comes the message that sex will save you and libido make you free.

 

Time called this new "sex-affirming culture" the "second sexual revolution" – the first having occurred in the 1920s, "when flaming youth buried the Victorian era and anointed itself as the Jazz Age". In contrast, the children of the 1960s had little to rebel against and found themselves, Time commented, "adrift in a sea of permissiveness", which it attributed to Reich's philosophy: "Gradually, the belief spread that repression, not licence, was the great evil, and that sexual matters belonged in the realm of science, not morals." In 1968, student revolutionaries graffitied Reichian slogans, and in Berlin copies of The Mass Psychology of Fascism were hurled at police. At the University of Frankfurt, '68ers were advised: "Read Reich and Act Accordingly!"

 

Advertisers, the political theorist Herbert Marcuse argued, eagerly exploited for profit the new realm of unrepressed sexual feeling and used psychoanalysis to encourage the consumer's apparently infinite desires and to foster what he called "false needs". Radical sexuality, for which he and Reich had previously held grand hopes, was co-opted and contained: the libido was carefully, almost scientifically, managed and controlled. In the process, as Marcuse detected, sex and radical politics became unstuck.

 

The orgone energy accumulator offered a generation the opportunity to shed their repressions by climbing into a box, which in turn served as an apt symbol of their alienation and new imprisonment. It is perhaps significant that in Sleeper the Orgasmatron – a machine in which the Woody Allen character attempts to hide from the secret police – is the product of an authoritarian regime. Similarly, in Roger Vadim's Barbarella (1968), the evil scientist Durand-Durand, who seems to be partly based on Reich, uses a form of orgone accumulator as an instrument of torture when he attempts, unsuccessfully, to kill Jane Fonda with pleasure. These films might be seen to contain, hidden within their comedy, the sort of doubts raised by Marcuse about the efficacy of the sexual revolution. Sexual pleasure, they appear to argue, is not always revolutionary, but can be offered by the establishment as a panacea, thus becoming in itself a form of repression.

 

As Aldous Huxley wrote in his 1946 preface to Brave New World, a novel about a futuristic dystopia in which sexual promiscuity becomes the law, "as political and economic freedom diminishes, sexual freedom tends compensatingly to increase. And the dictator . . . will do well to encourage that freedom . . . it will help to reconcile his subjects to the servitude which is their fate." Sexual liberation, despite its apparent eventual successes, might be interpreted, as the philosopher Michel Foucault suggested (with reference to Reich), as having ushered in "a more devious and discreet form of power".

Edited September 24, 2016 by slow

[Lord Protector]

U totalitarnom drustvu gde nas kontrolisu pornografijom? 

 

I to kazes ti koji ostavljas najkvalitetnije postove na Desanki? Razocaran sam.

 

Nisam usamljen, i Pamela Anderson je videla da je đavo odneo šalu:

 

 

 

 

Take the Pledge: No More Indulging Porn Anthony Weiner isn’t alone. We need an honest dialogue on the dangers of pornography.

 

By 

SHMULEY BOTEACH and

 

PAMELA ANDERSON  :misko: 

Aug. 31, 2016 7:04 p.m. ET

 

If anyone still had doubts about the addictive dangers of pornography, Anthony Weiner should have put paid to them with his repeated, self-sabotaging sexting.

And if anyone still doubted the devastation that porn addiction wreaks on those closest to the addict, behold the now-shattered marriage of Mr. Weiner and Huma Abedin, a breakup that she initiated, reportedly, in shock at the disgraced ex-congressman’s inclusion of their 4-year-old son in one lewd photo that he sent to a near-stranger.

From our respective positions of rabbi-counselor and former Playboy model and actress, we have often warned about pornography’s corrosive effects on a man’s soul and on his ability to function as husband and, by extension, as father. This is a public hazard of unprecedented seriousness given how freely available, anonymously accessible and easily disseminated pornography is nowadays.

 

Put another way, we are a guinea-pig generation for an experiment in mass debasement that few of us would have ever consented to, and whose full nefarious impact may not be known for years. How many families will suffer? How many marriages will implode? How many talented men will scrap their most important relationships and careers for a brief onanistic thrill? How many children will propel, warp-speed, into the dark side of adult sexuality by forced exposure to their fathers’ profanations?

The statistics already available are terrifying. According to data provided by the American Psychological Association, porn consumption rates are between 50% and 99% among men and 30% to 86% among women, with the former group often reporting less satisfactory intimate lives with their wives or girlfriends as a result of the consumption. By contrast, many female fans of pornography tend to prefer a less explicit variety, and report that it improves their sexual relationships.

Nine percent of porn users said they had tried unsuccessfully to stop—an indication of addiction that is all the more startling when you consider that the dependency rate among people who try marijuana is the same—9%—and not much higher among those who try cocaine (15%), according to the National Center for Biotechnology Information.

But it is a fair guess that whereas drug-dependency data are mostly stable, the incidence of porn addiction will only spiral as the children now being raised in an environment of wall-to-wall, digitized sexual images become adults inured to intimacy and in need of even greater graphic stimulation. They are the crack babies of porn.

All people are unique individuals and we can be sure that Mr. Weiner’s problems are at least in part a matter of his personal psycho-pathologies. Yet his behavior squares with what we have observed with all too many men, especially in the U.S. or other Western countries that enjoy liberal values and material prosperity. These are men who, by any objective measure, have succeeded yet regard themselves as failures. These are men who feel marooned in lassitude because they enjoy physical security, who feel bereft and bored even if they are blessed to have the committed love of a wife or girlfriend. These are men who believe that cruising the internet for explicit footage of other women or sharing such images of themselves over the remote communication offered by smartphones are risqué but risk-free distractions from the tedium.

The march of technology is irreversible and we aren’t so naive as to believe that any kind of imposed regulation could ever reseal the Pandora’s box of pornography. What is required is an honest dialogue about what we are witnessing—the true nature and danger of porn—and an honor code to tamp it down in the collective interests of our well-being as individuals, as families and as communities.

The ubiquity of porn is an outgrowth of the sexual revolution that began a half-century ago and which, with gender rights and freedoms now having been established, has arguably run its course. Now is the time for an epochal shift in our private and public lives. Call it a “sensual revolution.”

The sensual revolution would replace pornography with eroticism—the alloying of sex with love, of physicality with personality, of the body’s mechanics with imagination, of orgasmic release with binding relationships. In an age where public disapproval is no longer an obstacle to personal disgrace, we must turn instead to the appeal of self-interest.

Simply put, we must educate ourselves and our children to understand that porn is for losers—a boring, wasteful and dead-end outlet for people too lazy to reap the ample rewards of healthy sexuality.

 

Rabbi Boteach is a an author, TV host and public speaker. Ms. Anderson is a model, author and actress.

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[Meazza]

Seksualne slobode nemaju nikakve veze sa Hakslijevim obaveznim promiskuitetom niti vode ka tome. Uostalom, na kraju krajeva, cak i njegov svet je daleko pozeljniji od Orvelovog gde je seks iz zadovoljstva kaznjiv smrcu.

 

Zivela pornografija, zivela Anita Blond. Ljudi, jebite se sto vise.

[Meazza]

Pamela je prsla, ali ne pre nego sto je prestala da bude dobra riba. Kiselo grozdje.

[Lord Protector]

[Meazza]

Dobro, i sta predlazes da se uradi povodom pornica?

[Lord Protector]

Nisu problem samo pornići, problem je u sveopštoj seksualizaciji društva, a poseban problem su mladi i deca.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/darryl-roberts/sexualized-culture-is-creating-mental-health-issues-in-our-youth_b_5994148.html

 

http://www.apa.org/pi/women/programs/girls/report.aspx

 

 Evidence for the sexualization of girls

Virtually every media form studied provides ample evidence of the sexualization of women, including television, music videos, music lyrics, movies, magazines, sports media, video games, the Internet and advertising (e.g., Gow, 1996; Grauerholz & King, 1997; Krassas, Blauwkamp,& Wesselink, 2001, 2003; Lin, 1997; Plous & Neptune, 1997; Vincent, 1989; Ward, 1995). Some studies have examined forms of media that are especially popular with children and adolescents, such as video games and teen-focused magazines.

In study after study, findings have indicated that women more often than men are portrayed in a sexual manner (e.g., dressed in revealing clothing, with bodily postures or facial expressions that imply sexual readiness) and are objectified (e.g., used as a decorative object, or as body parts rather than a whole person). In addition, a narrow (and unrealistic) standard of physical beauty is heavily emphasized. These are the models of femininity presented for young girls to study and emulate.

In some studies, the focus was on the sexualization of female characters across all ages, but most focused specifically on young adult women. Although few studies examined the prevalence of sexualized portrayals of girls in particular, those that have been conducted found that such sexualization does occur and may be increasingly common. For example, O’Donohue, Gold and McKay (1997) coded advertisements over a 40-year period in five magazines targeted to men, women or a general adult readership. Although relatively few (1.5 percent) of the ads portrayed children in a sexualized manner, of those that did, 85 percent sexualized girls rather than boys. Furthermore, the percentage of sexualizing ads increased over time.

Although extensive analyses documenting the sexualization of girls, in particular, have yet to be conducted, individual examples can easily be found. These include advertisements (e.g., the Skechers “naughty and nice” ad that featured Christina Aguilera dressed as a schoolgirl in pigtails, with her shirt unbuttoned, licking a lollipop), dolls (e.g., Bratz dolls dressed in sexualized clothing such as miniskirts, fishnet stockings and feather boas), clothing (thongs sized for 7– to 10-year-olds, some printed with slogans such as “wink wink”), and television programs (e.g., a televised fashion show in which adult models in lingerie were presented as young girls). Research documenting the pervasiveness and influence of such products and portrayals is sorely needed.

Societal messages that contribute to the sexualization of girls come not only from media and merchandise but also through girls’ interpersonal relationships (e.g., with parents, teachers, and peers; Brown & Gilligan, 1992). Parents may contribute to sexualization in a number of ways. For example, parents may convey the message that maintaining an attractive physical appearance is the most important goal for girls. Some may allow or encourage plastic surgery to help girls meet that goal. Research shows that teachers sometimes encourage girls to play at being sexualized adult women (Martin, 1988) or hold beliefs that girls of color are “hypersexual” and thus unlikely to achieve academic success (Rolón-Dow, 2004). Both male and female peers have been found to contribute to the sexualization of girls — girls by policing each other to ensure conformance with standards of thinness and sexiness (Eder, 1995; Nichter, 2000) and boys by sexually objectifying and harassing girls. Finally, at the extreme end, parents, teachers and peers, as well as others (e.g., other family members, coaches, or strangers) sometimes sexually abuse, assault, prostitute or traffic girls, a most destructive form of sexualization.

If girls purchase (or ask their parents to purchase) products and clothes designed to make them look physically appealing and sexy, and if they style their identities after the sexy celebrities who populate their cultural landscape, they are, in effect, sexualizing themselves. Girls also sexualize themselves when they think of themselves in objectified terms. Psychological researchers have identified self-objectification as a key process whereby girls learn to think of and treat their own bodies as objects of others’ desires (Frederickson & Roberts, 1997; McKinley & Hyde, 1996). In self-objectification, girls internalize an observer’s perspective on their physical selves and learn to treat themselves as objects to be looked at and evaluated for their appearance. Numerous studies have documented the presence of self-objectification in women more than in men. Several studies have also documented this phenomenon in adolescent and preadolescent girls (McConnell, 2001; Slater & Tiggemann, 2002).

Consequences of the sexualization of girls

Psychology offers several theories to explain how the sexualization of girls and women could influence girls’ well-being. Ample evidence testing these theories indicates that sexualization has negative effects in a variety of domains, including cognitive functioning, physical and mental health, sexuality and attitudes and beliefs.

Although most of these studies have been conducted on women in late adolescence (i.e., college age), findings are likely to generalize to younger adolescents and to girls, who may be even more strongly affected because their sense of self is still being formed.

Cognitive and emotional consequences

Cognitively, self-objectification has been repeatedly shown to detract from the ability to concentrate and focus one’s attention, thus leading to impaired performance on mental activities such as mathematical computations or logical reasoning (Frederickson, Roberts, Noll, Quinn & Twenge, 1998; Gapinski, Brownell & LaFrance, 2003; Hebl, King & Lin, 2004). One study demonstrated this fragmenting quite vividly (Fredrickson et al., 1998). While alone in a dressing room, college students were asked to try on and evaluate either a swimsuit or a sweater. While they waited for 10 minutes wearing the garment, they completed a math test. The results revealed that young women in swimsuits performed significantly worse on the math problems than did those wearing sweaters. No differences were found for young men. In other words, thinking about the body and comparing it to sexualized cultural ideals disrupted mental capacity. In the emotional domain, sexualization and objectification undermine confidence in and comfort with one’s own body, leading to a host of negative emotional consequences, such as shame, anxiety, and even self-disgust. The association between self-objectification and anxiety about appearance and feelings of shame has been found in adolescent girls (12–13-year-olds) (Slater & Tiggemann, 2002) as well as in adult women.

Mental and physical health

Research links sexualization with three of the most common mental health problems of girls and women: eating disorders, low self-esteem and depression or depressed mood (Abramson & Valene, 1991; Durkin & Paxton, 2002; Harrison, 2000; Hofschire & Greenberg, 2001; Mills, Polivy, Herman & Tiggemann, 2002; Stice, Schupak-Neuberg, Shaw & Stein, 1994; Thomsen, Weber & Brown, 2002; Ward, 2004). Several studies (on both teenage and adult women) have found associations between exposure to narrow representations of female beauty (e.g., the “thin ideal”) and disordered eating attitudes and symptoms. Research also links exposure to sexualized female ideals with lower self-esteem, negative mood and depressive symptoms among adolescent girls and women. In addition to mental health consequences of sexualization, research suggests that girls’ and women’s physical health may also be negatively affected, albeit indirectly.

Sexuality

Sexual well-being is an important part of healthy development and overall well-being, yet evidence suggests that the sexualization of girls has negative consequences in terms of girls’ ability to develop healthy sexuality. Self-objectification has been linked directly with diminished sexual health among adolescent girls (e.g., as measured by decreased condom use and diminished sexual assertiveness; Impett, Schooler & Tolman, 2006). Frequent exposure to narrow ideals of attractiveness is associated with unrealistic and/or negative expectations concerning sexuality. Negative effects (e.g., shame) that emerge during adolescence may lead to sexual problems in adulthood (Brotto, Heiman & Tolman, in press).

Attitudes and beliefs

Frequent exposure to media images that sexualize girls and women affects how girls conceptualize femininity and sexuality. Girls and young women who more frequently consume or engage with mainstream media content offer stronger endorsement of sexual stereotypes that depict women as sexual objects (Ward, 2002; Ward & Rivadeneyra, 1999; Zurbriggen & Morgan, 2006). They also place appearance and physical attractiveness at the center of women’s value.

Impact on others and on society

The sexualization of girls can also have a negative impact on other groups (i.e., boys, men, and adult women) and on society more broadly. Exposure to narrow ideals of female sexual attractiveness may make it difficult for some men to find an “acceptable” partner or to fully enjoy intimacy with a female partner (e.g., Schooler & Ward, 2006).

Adult women may suffer by trying to conform to a younger and younger standard of ideal female beauty. More general societal effects may include an increase in sexism; fewer girls pursuing careers in science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM); increased rates of sexual harassment and sexual violence; and an increased demand for child pornography.

Positive alternatives to the sexualization of girls

Some girls and their supporters, now and in the past, have resisted mainstream characterizations of girls as sexual objects. A variety of promising approaches exist to reduce the amount of sexualization that occurs and to ameliorate its effects.

Because the media are important sources of sexualizing images, the development and implementation of school-based media literacy training programs could be key in combating the influence of sexualization. There is an urgent need to teach critical skills in viewing and consuming media, focusing specifically on the sexualization of women and girls. Other school-based approaches include increased access to athletic and other extracurricular programs for girls and the development and presentation of comprehensive sexuality education programs.

Strategies for parents and other caregivers include learning about the impact of sexualization on girls and coviewing media with their children in order to influence the way in which media messages are interpreted. Action by parents and families has been effective in confronting sources of sexualized images of girls. Organized religious and other ethical instruction can offer girls important practical and psychological alternatives to the values conveyed by popular culture.

Girls and girls’ groups can also work toward change. Alternative media such as “zines” (Web-based magazines), “blogs” (Web logs) and feminist magazines, books and websites encourage girls to become activists who speak out and develop their own alternatives. Girl empowerment groups also support girls in a variety of ways and provide important counterexamples to sexualization.

Edited September 24, 2016 by slow

[Meazza]

Tl,dr

 

Dobro, nisu problem samo pornici, ali sta treba uraditi s pornicima po tvom misljenju?

[Lord Protector]

Prema pornografiji se treba ophoditi kao prema prostituciji. Ne može se zabraniti, to je kontraproduktivno, ali treba uvesti jaču kontrolu i onemogućiti njenu laku dostupnost ugroženim kategorijama društva, posebno deci i mladima. Uvesti kontrolu distribucije kao kod duvana jer izaziva zavisnost.

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[Lezilebovich]

Gledao sam pre neki dan pornice na tv-u i jezivi su. Na 4 kanala u krupnom kadru polni organi i to traje i traje... ali bas bas krupan kadar ... grozno i jezivo.

Ne znam da li je to neki trend ili nema vise para, ali pornicima treba ozbiljna promena.