BrExit?

[Tsai]

Kakva gomila idiota, majko bozija

[Prospero]

[hausmaistor]

To je sinoć rekao Junker u intervjuu BBC-u, "kad si unutra možeš da utičeš na pravila, kad si van samo možeš da ih se pridržavaš ili ne".

 

Nauk i za nas.

na koja pravila bi mi uticali?

 

ne mislis valjda na kosovo?

[Prospero]

Na pravila koja se donose unutar klubova čiji si član.

 

Ne.

[Tribun_Populi]

na koja pravila bi mi uticali?

Uuu, da si živ i zdrav.

 

edit: to nije NATO.

Edited June 30, 2016 by Tribun_Populi

[Bojan]

Pa kako nisu - ne cak ni toliko direktno za US nego indirektno kroz sistematsko razbijanje EU.

 

Nije novost da Kremlj otvoreno podrzava ekstremnije desicarske i levicarske organizacije sirom Evrope i da sistematski sire dezinformacije medju stanovnistvom.

 

Onaj primer Lavrova kad otvoreno laze o silovanju devojcice u Berlinu od strane izbeglica na vrhuncu krize je samo vrh ledenog brega - ali za mene recimo jasan indikator.

 

Problem je vise sto iako Amerikanci shvataju koliko je sati, EU to jos ne shvata i nema adekvatan odgovor na medijskom, obavestajnom i spoljnopolitickom nivou.

 

Slažem se. Ja bih se od Rusa distancirao, ASAP.

[MancMellow]

 

The new Slovakian EU presidency has held out a slim hope of overcoming last week’s Brexit vote, with the country’s foreign minister saying he respected the result but would support any measure that helped reverse it.

 

Speaking a day after the US secretary of state, John Kerry, suggested that the Brexit result could be “walked back”, Slovakia’s foreign minister, Miroslav Lajčák, appeared to nudge the door open further.

At a press conference in Bratislava, he said: “I would support any measure that will help reverse the position of the British people, which we have to respect but also regret. I deeply regret it – an EU with a UK is a better EU – but it’s in the hands of the British people and politicians.”

[Tribun_Populi]

Divota.

[Friend]

Ovi Visegradjani su konstantno Babi u kontri. Mensecini da tu Ameri brljaju ocevidno.

[MancMellow]

SP daungrejdovao i kreditni rejting EU :D 

[Gricko]

 

 

The new Slovakian EU presidency has held out a slim hope of overcoming last week’s Brexit vote, with the country’s foreign minister saying he respected the result but would support any measure that helped reverse it.

 

Speaking a day after the US secretary of state, John Kerry, suggested that the Brexit result could be “walked back”, Slovakia’s foreign minister, Miroslav Lajčák, appeared to nudge the door open further.

At a press conference in Bratislava, he said: “I would support any measure that will help reverse the position of the British people, which we have to respect but also regret. I deeply regret it – an EU with a UK is a better EU – but it’s in the hands of the British people and politicians.”

 

 

Stari ekspert za referendume. 

[Prospero]

Komesarka za trgovinu kaže da nema paralelnih nego samo sukcesivnih pregovora sa UK:

 

The European Union's top trade official says the UK cannot begin negotiating terms for doing business with the bloc until after it has left.
"First you exit then you negotiate," Cecilia Malmstrom told BBC Newsnight.
 
After Brexit, the UK would become a "third country" in EU terms, she said - meaning trade would be carried out based on World Trade Organisation rules until a new deal was complete.
A recent trade deal with Canada took seven years to negotiate.
 
The Canadian agreement will also require ratification by all EU countries, adding another one to two years before it takes effect.
WTO rules restrict the circumstances in which countries discriminate in favour of each other in trade. Otherwise, they must apply to each other the tariffs they apply against the rest of the world.
 
Ms Malmstrom, the EU Trade Commissioner, underlined that detailed talks to shape the UK's new trading relationship with the EU should not start until after the process of leaving politically, under an Article 50 process lasting up to two years.
 
"There are actually two negotiations. First you exit, and then you negotiate the new relationship, whatever that is," she said.
"The referendum - which of course we take note of and respect - has no legal effect. First there has to be notification, which the next prime minister will do, I hope swiftly. And then that process can start."
 
There is concern in the City that having to do business for years under WTO rules could be disastrous for the UK's service industries.
Asked whether sticking to such a process wouldn't harm the economies of all EU members, Ms Malmstrom replied: "Yes, but the vote was very clear."

She said she was "saddened" that the UK - which has traditionally defended the principle of free trade - is leaving the EU.
 
Fearsome challenge
 
Under EU law, the bloc cannot negotiate a separate trade deal with one of its own members, hence the commissioner's insistence that the UK must first leave.

It is also against EU law for a member to negotiate its own trade deals with outsiders, which means the UK cannot start doing this until after it has left the EU.
 

Taken at face value, these rules mean the UK cannot conduct its own trade talks for up to two years - a fearsome challenge to any prime minister trying to deliver Brexit.
 
EU officials say the UK's options will soon refine themselves into a Norway-style package that keeps Britain within the single market - subject to EU rules and regulations - or a bespoke "third country" deal on the pattern of Canada's.
 
They agree that because British businesses are already compliant with EU rules and regulations, choosing to remain within the single market would be "a little quicker", than negotiating a deal like Canada's.
 
But even a Norway-style single market access deal, they caution, could take years to negotiate, leaving the UK trading on WTO terms in the meantime.

 

[hausmaistor]

Slažem se. Ja bih se od Rusa distancirao, ASAP.

ajmo da raspravimo ovo jednom za svagda

 

eno ga poll

[reginald]

Andy Beckett https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/01/margaret-thatcher-brexit-thatcherism-leave-1980s

[Lord Protector]

Pa kako nisu - ne cak ni toliko direktno za US nego indirektno kroz sistematsko razbijanje EU.

 

Nije novost da Kremlj otvoreno podrzava ekstremnije desicarske i levicarske organizacije sirom Evrope i da sistematski sire dezinformacije medju stanovnistvom.

 

Onaj primer Lavrova kad otvoreno laze o silovanju devojcice u Berlinu od strane izbeglica na vrhuncu krize je samo vrh ledenog brega - ali za mene recimo jasan indikator.

 

Problem je vise sto iako Amerikanci shvataju koliko je sati, EU to jos ne shvata i nema adekvatan odgovor na medijskom, obavestajnom i spoljnopolitickom nivou.

 

Ne znam šta zagovaraš, policijsku državu? Ma sigurno je u EU najveći problem propagandno i političko delovanje Moskve. To je zamena teza kojom se prikriva nemogućnost zapadnog establišmenta da odgovori na probleme funkcionisanja same Unije i pokušaj traženja dežurnog krivca sa strane. Ako im smeta RT neka otvoreno uvedu cenzuru ili zabrane svojim političkim partijama da kontaktiraju sa Moskvom. Da vidimo i to.

Edited July 1, 2016 by slow