Malogradjanstina

[Verterdegete]

"Malogradjanstina", "malogradjanin", "malogradjanski" itsl. su etikete koje se jako cesto lepe u nasem svakodnevnom govoru. Neretko se desava da strane sa suprotstavljenim stavovima istovremeno optuze  jedna drugu za malogradjanstinu. Na PPPu se ovaj pojam takodje cesto poteze, i po pravilu to druga strana tretira kao tesku uvredu. E sad, mene kao makanju zanima sta  se konkretno podrazumeva pod malogradjanstinom? Da li je to moralna osobbina ili sistem vrednosti, i ako se radi o vrednostima,  o kojim vrednostima se tu radi? I da li je to klasna odrednica (malogradjanstvo kao sitna burzoazija), ili je u pitanju malogradjanstvo kao palanka/provincija?

Edited October 19, 2014 by Verterdegete

[Radoye]

Evo Sterija lepo objasnio:

 

Pokondirena tikva

[kobni zelaya]

To nije malograđanština. Da ne govorim o tome da su taj komad naši najbolji reditelji čitali potpuno drugačije još u sedamdesetim godinama prošlog veka.

 

Malograđanština je duboko ukorenjena i prihvaćena u našoj sredini, dok je Fema u Pokondirenoj tikvi izopštena iz svoje sredine.

[Аврам Гојић]

My take. Osobine malograđanina, neka može i da izostane ali su uglavnom sve tu.

 

- pripadnost srednjoj klasi (ili, u najmanju ruku, nepripadanje visokoj klasi)

- sklonost ka statusnim simbolima i statusnoj potrošnji

- potpuni nedostatak kulturne i socijalne elastičnosti

- problematična lična etika u ostvarenju statusnih ciljeva

- tendencija ka neprestanom omalovažavanu drugih, u okviru trke za status

- formalizam u svim svojim vidovima

[burekdzija]

Interesantno pitanje.

 

Rec dolazi gotovo sigurno kao direktan prevod nemacke reci Kleinbürger, kojom je oznacen pripadnik konzervativnog gradjanskog sloja u 18. i 19. veku u Nemackoj. Njima su se narocito bavili pisci poput Hesea i Mana, i kritikovali njihov ograniceni pogled na svet, nespremnost na promene, lakocu manipulacije itd i njemu suprotstavljali ideal kosmopolite koji kritikuje drustvo i koji je otvoren za druge kulture i misljenja. Pri tome Kleinbürger nije narocito nekulturan ili agresivan, on je ugledan, postovan, ali ne zeli da se menja, stritkno postuje drzavu i zakone. Agresivan postane tek kada neko pokusa da mu taj pogled na svet promeni.

 

Kod nas je taj termin u komunizmu degenerisao u pripadnika (verovatno) radnicke klase koji pokusava da se uklopi u sistem vrednosti (bivse) gradjanske klase. U novije vreme sam cuo i za tzv. versko malogradjanstvo (neartikulisano ispoljavanje religioznih osecanja), mada ga ja ne bih tako zvao.

[kobni zelaya]

My take. Osobine malograđanina, neka može i da izostane ali su uglavnom sve tu.

 

- pripadnost srednjoj klasi (ili, u najmanju ruku, nepripadanje visokoj klasi)

- sklonost ka statusnim simbolima i statusnoj potrošnji

- potpuni nedostatak kulturne i socijalne elastičnosti

- problematična lična etika u ostvarenju statusnih ciljeva

- tendencija ka neprestanom omalovažavanu drugih, u okviru trke za status

- formalizam u svim svojim vidovima

Boldovano je efektno i temeljno demonstrirano na topiku o doris.

[Kampokei]

Jaka teznja za slanjem licne slike u svet, tj. poznanike, komsije i rodbinu, u kombinaciji sa odsustvom intelektualnog duha i svesti o opstem dobru (u se, na se i poda se).

[Lord Protector]

Malograđanštinu je baš teško definisati, kao i kič. Nikad nisam čuo zadovoljavajuću definiciju kiča.

Edited October 20, 2014 by slow

[Аврам Гојић]

MIslim da je Valter Benjamin odlicno definisao kic, tj ne definisao, vec ponudio sveobuhvatni lakmus. umetnost bez ikakve distance prema konzumentu, spremna za trenutnu konzumaciju!

Edited October 20, 2014 by Грешни Василије

[kobni zelaya]

Malograđanštinu je baš teško definisati, kao i kič. Nikad nisam čuo zadovoljavajuću definiciju kiča.

Zanimljivo poređenje, mada, ako bih još nekako hteo da dovedem u vezu ta dva pojma mogao bih da kažem da su oni uvek suprotstavljeni. Malograđanin je uvek protiv kiča - on zna™ šta je kvalitet™, on ima dobar ukus™.

[Hella]

- pripadnost srednjoj klasi (ili, u najmanju ruku, nepripadanje visokoj klasi) X

- sklonost ka statusnim simbolima i statusnoj potrošnji ✓

- potpuni nedostatak kulturne i socijalne elastičnosti ✓

- problematična lična etika u ostvarenju statusnih ciljeva ✓

- tendencija ka neprestanom omalovažavanu drugih, u okviru trke za status ✓

- formalizam u svim svojim vidovima ✓

 

[Lancia]

+1

[Lord Protector]

Interesantno pitanje.

 

Rec dolazi gotovo sigurno kao direktan prevod nemacke reci Kleinbürger, kojom je oznacen pripadnik konzervativnog gradjanskog sloja u 18. i 19. veku u Nemackoj. Njima su se narocito bavili pisci poput Hesea i Mana, i kritikovali njihov ograniceni pogled na svet, nespremnost na promene, lakocu manipulacije itd i njemu suprotstavljali ideal kosmopolite koji kritikuje drustvo i koji je otvoren za druge kulture i misljenja. Pri tome Kleinbürger nije narocito nekulturan ili agresivan, on je ugledan, postovan, ali ne zeli da se menja, stritkno postuje drzavu i zakone. Agresivan postane tek kada neko pokusa da mu taj pogled na svet promeni.

 

Kod nas je taj termin u komunizmu degenerisao u pripadnika (verovatno) radnicke klase koji pokusava da se uklopi u sistem vrednosti (bivse) gradjanske klase. U novije vreme sam cuo i za tzv. versko malogradjanstvo (neartikulisano ispoljavanje religioznih osecanja), mada ga ja ne bih tako zvao.

 

Ovo može da pomogne u definisanju, malograđanština kao antipod kosmopolitizma. To bi značilo da je malograđanin u osnovi sitna duša, malodušnik^tm, bez prave širine i autentičnosti. Zna da puko kopira vrednosti ali ne zna njihov pravi značaj i smisao. Kritizer drugih, ali nikada radi istine već radi reklame i vladajućeg duha vremena.

[Аврам Гојић]

...malograđanština kao antipod kosmopolitizma. To bi značilo da je malograđanin u osnovi sitna duša, malodušnik^tm, bez prave širine i autentičnosti. Zna da puko kopira vrednosti ali ne zna njihov pravi značaj i smisao. Kritizer drugih, ali nikada radi istine već radi reklame i vladajućeg duha vremena.

 

Veoma dobro, da ne kažem odlično.

[braca]

 

Petite bourgeoisie (French pronunciation: ​[pətit buʁʒwazi]), also petty bourgeoisie (literally small bourgeoisie), is a French term (sometimes derogatory) referring to a social class comprising semi-autonomous peasantry and small-scale merchants whose politico-economic ideological stance is determined by reflecting that of a haute (high) bourgeoisie, with which the petite bourgeoisie seeks to identify itself, and whose bourgeois morality it strives to imitate.

 

The term is politico-economic, and references historical materialism. It originally denoted a sub-stratum of the middle classes in the 18th and early-19th centuries. In the mid-19th century, the pre-eminient theorist of socio-politico-economy, Karl Marx, and other Marxist theorists used the term petite bourgeoisie to identify the socio-economic stratum of the bourgeoisie that comprised small-scale capitalists such as shop-keepers and workers who manage the production, distribution, and/or exchange of commodities and/or services owned by their bourgeois employers.

 

Definition

 

The petite bourgeoisie are economically distinct from the proletariat and the lumpenproletariat, who are social-class strata who entirely rely on the sale of their labor-power for survival; and also are distinct from the capitalist class haute bourgeoisie (high bourgeoisie) who own the means of production, and thus can buy the labor-power of the proletariat and lumpenproletariat to work the means of production. Though the petite bourgeoisie can buy the labor of others, unlike the haute bourgeoisie, they typically work alongside their employees.

 

Role in fascism

 

Historically, Karl Marx predicted that the petite bourgeoisie were to lose in the course of economic development. In the event, R. J. B. Bosworth suggested that they were to become the political mainstay of Fascism, which political reaction was their terroristic response to the inevitable loss of power (economic, political, social) to the haute bourgeoisie.[4] Wilhelm Reich also highlighted the principal support of the rise of fascism in Germany given by the petite bourgeoisie and middle-class in The Mass Psychology of Fascism. He claimed that the middle classes were a hotbed for political reaction due to their reliance on the patriarchal family (small businesses, according to Reich, are often self-exploiting enterprises of families headed by the father, whose morality binds the family together in their somewhat precarious economic position), and the sexual repression that underlies it.

 

Literary treatment of the petite bourgeoisie

 

Søren Kierkegaard wrote that "the petty bourgeois is spiritless[...] Devoid of imagination, as the petty bourgeois always is, he lives within a certain orbit of trivial experiences as to how things come about, what is possible, what usually happens, no matter whether he is a tapster or a prime minister. This is the way the petty bourgeois has lost himself and God." According to him, the petite bourgeoisie exemplifies a spiritual emptiness that is rooted in an overemphasis on the worldly, rather than the inwardness of the self. However, Kierkegaard's indictment relies less on a class analysis of the petite bourgeoisie than on the perception of a worldview which was common in his middle-class milieu.

 

In fact, though there have been many depictions of the petite bourgeoisie in literature as well as in cartoons, based on an image of their overly conventional practicality, the realities of the petite bourgeoisie throughout the 19th century were more complex. All the same, writers have been concerned with petite bourgeois morality and behavior, and have portrayed them as undesirable characters. Henrik Ibsen's An Enemy of the People was a play written in direct response to the reception of another one of his plays for making "indecent" references to syphillis, and in general his work was considered scandalous in its disregard for the morality of the period. Later, Bertolt Brecht's concern with Nazism and his Marxist politics (see above) got him interested in exploring the petite bourgeois mind, and this interest led him to represent the petite bourgeoisie repeatedly throughout his work (one was even titled The Seven Deadly Sins of the Petite Bourgeoisie).