adam Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 ja bih se slozio s indijem. cini mi se da neke granice (kad su u pitanju ovlascenja drzave) treba prelaziti samo kad nema drugog resenja. recimo - pre bih radio na tome da ljude motivisem da odu i izvade donorske karte nego da drzavi dam blanko pravo na posedovanje ostataka bilo koga. drzave su cudne, nikad ne znas na koju stranu ce se razviti, ne treba im verovati ni u cemu. a ako ima alternativa - zasto rizikovati? britanci ne zele difolt izmedju ostalog i zato sto se broj dobrovoljnih davalaca organa povecao na takav nivo da su zakljucili da ne bi bilo mnogo razlicito kad bi ga uveli.a i malo je bezveze da zbog vas koji ste lenji da odete i prijavite se najebu razni koji to ne zele u trenutku kad im to najmanje treba. znajuci kako kod nas funkcionise drzava, cenim da bi ovo kad bi se uvelo saznali samo oni koji su zainteresovani a vecina, sve i da nesto cuje, verovatno ne bi razumela o cemu se radi. nisu ni meni dragi religiozni i zaostali al nije vreme da im se gura prst u oko kad, recimo, sahranjuju roditelja ili dete.
Аврам Гојић Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 cenim da bi ovo kad bi se uvelo saznali samo oni koji su zainteresovani a vecina, sve i da nesto cuje, verovatno ne bi razumela o cemu se radi. ostatak posta je lepo argumentovan i uglavnom se slazem sa time, ali moracu da dam cinican odgovor na ovo: mozda je ovakav sok i potreban nasem moronizovanom otupelom gradjanstvu koje uporno cuti kada im oduzimaju elementarna prava, povecavaju dazbine, skacu mu po glavi, kada ih truju kancerogenim mlekom (tj gradjani su bili glasni dok im Vucic nije saopstio da je sa mlekom sve u redu, e onda su poslusno zacutali), a ako ne cuti onda glasno navija za to, kao u slucaju zabrane Prajda.
Indy Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Uz rizik da predjem granicu dobrog ukusa poredeci ovo sa novim srpskim pristupom donaciji organa, navescu samo nesto iz danasnjih vesti u Australiji... radi se o "nedobrovoljnom" davanju organa od strane kineskih osudjenika na smrt, u koje je ukljucen i jedan cenjeni doktor (Kinez, skolovan u Australiji). Inace, ostatke nekih od ovih nesrecnika sam verovatno i sam imao prilike da vidim pre nekoliko godina, na izlozbi prepariranih leseva.A group of fellow doctors have petitioned the university's vice chancellor demanding Dr Huang Jiefu's honorary professorships be revoked over what is seen as the unethical practice of removing organs from prisoners thought to have been forced into organ donation.China's transplant program has long been condemned and sparked protests around the world because most of the life-saving kidneys, lungs and livers used come from executed prisoners.prilicno jezivo, u spoileru Enver Tohti is an ethnic Uighur from far western China who fled to London after a traumatic experience while working as a surgeon in the 1990s.He says he was forced to remove organs from an executed prisoner."It was really a terrible memory," he said."Our surgeon told us wait outside that execution ground and come in as soon as you heard the gunshot so we did."There was, I guess it was a prisoner who got shot. Blood and mud on his face, so our chief surgeon said 'OK, hurry up, your task is remove his liver and two kidneys'."Mr Tohti says the prisoner had not yet died when they removed the organs."I have noticed that the gun wound was on his right chest, so I guess that was deliberately to make this prisoner not die immediately to allow some time for us to remove that organ when he is still alive" Edited May 20, 2013 by Indy
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