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[Prospero]

ovo liči na pokušaj 'pograđanjivanja' islama, na lokalni, austrijski način:
 

Austria passes 'Law on Islam' banning foreign money for Muslim groups

By Shadia Nasralla
VIENNA Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:45pm EST


(Reuters) - Austria's parliament passed a law on Wednesday that seeks to regulate how Islam is administered, singling out its large Muslim minority for treatment not applied to any other religious group.
The "Law on Islam" bans foreign funding for Islamic organizations and requires any group claiming to represent Austrian Muslims to submit and use a standardized German translation of the Koran.

The law met with little opposition from the overwhelmingly Roman Catholic population, was backed by Austria's Catholic bishops, and was grudgingly accepted by the main Muslim organization. But it upset Turkey's state religious establishment.

"We want an Islam of the Austrian kind, and not one that is dominated by other countries," said Sebastian Kurz, the 28-year-old conservative foreign minister - formally the minister for foreign affairs and integration - who is easily Austria's most popular politician.
Austria's half a million Muslims make up about 6 percent of the population and are overwhelmingly the families of Turkish migrant workers. Many of their imams are sent and financed by Turkey's state religious affairs directorate, the Diyanet.

Mehmet Gormez, head of the Diyanet, said before the law was passed that "with this draft legislation, religious freedoms in Austria will have fallen back a hundred years".
Austria's biggest Islamic organization, IGGiO, accepted the law, but its youth arm opposed it, as did the Turkish-financed Turkish-Islamic Union in Austria (ATIB), which runs many mosques and has vowed to challenge the bill in the Constitutional Court.

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While the government has said Islamist militancy is on the rise, and around 170 people have left Austria to join jihadists in Syria or Iraq, Austria has experienced no Islamist violence of note, and relations with the Muslim community have been relatively unproblematic. Unlike France, Austria has not banned Muslim women from wearing full-face veils in public.
Nevertheless, the opposition far-right Freedom Party, which opposed the bill as too mild, attracts about 25 percent support with an anti-immigrant stance that is also highly critical of Islam. Meanwhile, the ruling Socialist and conservative parties struggle to muster a majority together.
Austria's neighbor Germany has also experienced an upsurge of anti-Islam sentiment in the form of the weekly PEGIDA protests in Dresden.

These have, however, been met with much larger anti-racism demonstrations and a robust response from Chancellor Angela Merkel, mindful of Nazi Germany's persecution of Jews, who asserted that "Islam belongs to Germany".
The Austrian government says the new law strengthens Muslims' legal status, for example by guaranteeing Islamic pastoral care in hospitals and the army, and protecting Muslims' rights to eat and produce food according to Islamic rules.

The bill updates a "Law on Islam" dating from 1912 that was intended to guarantee the rights of Bosnia-Herzegovina's Muslims in the Austro-Hungarian empire. Turkey's Gormez, who had attended centenary commemorations for the 1912 law, said its replacement would disregard the "morals and laws of coexistence" that Austria had established a century ago.

(Additional reporting by Tom Heneghan in Paris and Ece Toksabay in Istanbul; Editing by Kevin Liffey)

[Tribun_Populi]

 

Angela Merkel is in favor of a "deeper military cooperation in Europe," government spokeswoman Christiane Wirtz said, although no concrete plans have been made so far.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel expressed her support on Monday to a proposal for the creation of a Pan- European army.

© REUTERS/ Yves Herman

Western Leaders Focus on Positives of Ukraine Process - Merkel

Merkel is in favor of a "deeper military cooperation in Europe," government spokeswoman Christiane Wirtz said.

But Wirtz emphasized that Berlin saw the proposal as a "future project" without any concrete plans for its near future.

Similarly, an official representative of the European Commission Margaritis Schinas said that the European Union does not have a particular plan of creating a European army so far but the topic may be raised at the EU summit in June.

Jean-Claude Juncker said Sunday that with such an armed force in place, the EU would be able to adequately respond to threats posed to both member states and neighboring countries.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150309/1019270849.html#ixzz3TukX1XtT

 

Tetka <3

[Prospero]

Aj bože pomozi ovaj put.

 

Biće to nužno neka institucionalna vratolomija ali daj šta daš.

Edited March 9, 2015 by Prospero

[Dr Arslanagić]

Mogla bi Grčka, kao vojno najjača i najopremljenija EU država, da taj poslić preuzme na sebe a da im Angela i ekipa precrtaju koju milijardu. 

Edited March 9, 2015 by Dr Arslanagić

[MancMellow]

Samo nek ponude platu soma-soma i po evrića za ugovorce, pa da rešimo konačno i ovu nezaposlenost (tj prvo da se uguramo nekako tamo)

[Dr Arslanagić]

Da budemo EU Gurke? Hmmm

[MancMellow]

Pfff, ko da su nam preci išta drugo radili 

 

gde je vojska, tu je i liferacija, veze in high places...da se pogura malo i tako to, sve što je bitno za privredu

Edited March 9, 2015 by MancMellow

[Dr Arslanagić]

Ne živi se od stare slave, sve smo ratove u poslednjih 20 godina izgubili, morali bi da se dokazujemo... Koga bi mogli da sobalimo na brzaka? Blgare? Magyare? Crnu Goru?

[MancMellow]

Ne živi se od stare slave, sve smo ratove u poslednjih 20 godina izgubili, morali bi da se dokazujemo... Koga bi mogli da sobalimo na brzaka? Blgare? Magyare? Crnu Goru?

 

ma...ne bre, pa neće valjda EU sama sa sobom da ratuje :D

 

Jab prvo Švajcarsku 

 

aha, misliš da izbijemo na dobar glas...pa...pomoć makedoncima u njihovim zapadnim krajevima 

Edited March 9, 2015 by MancMellow

[radisa]

ma...ne bre, pa neće valjda EU sama sa sobom da ratuje :D

 

Jab prvo Švajcarsku 

Norvešku, da uzmeš naftu... Koji će ti kur planine, Milka i sir, a uz to su naloženi i imaju po kućama automatsko oružije...

[MancMellow]

Norvešku, da uzmeš naftu... Koji će ti kur planine, Milka i sir, a uz to su naloženi i imaju po kućama automatsko oružije...

 

naftu treba izvaditi, obrraditi, prodati, naplatiti...ovde su već gotove pare i zlato

[radisa]

naftu treba izvaditi, obrraditi, prodati, naplatiti...ovde su već gotove pare i zlato

Tenkovi ne idu na zlato i mleko

[MancMellow]

videćemo posle, nemoj sad da mi kvariš plan već na početku  <_<

[Prospero]

jbt kad će taj brexit više:

 

Outrage as EU chief calls for EURO ARMY commanded by Brussels to take on Russia and IS

BRUSSELS’ top bureaucrat came under fire yesterday after calling for a European army to be set up as part of a common foreign and security policy.

Published: 09:40, Mon, March 9, 2015
By Alison Little & Allan Hall


Jean-Claude Juncker - backed by leading German politician’s - said a “euro-army” commanded by Brussels would provide a “more credible” response to threats, including from Russia.
But his comments sparked a storm of protest in Britain, where eurosceptic campaigners have long warned of Brussels’ ambitions for its own defence force.
Ukip MEP and defence spokesman Mike Hookem said: “Ukip have been ridiculed for years and branded scaremongers for suggesting that the UK’s traditional parties were slowly relinquishing control of our defence and moving toward a European Army.
“However, yet again, UKIP’s predictions have been proved correct.

“A European Army would be a tragedy for the UK. We have all seen the utter mess the EU has made of the eurozone economy, so how can we even think of trusting them with this island’s defence?

“This is simply a disaster in the making that would see Gibraltar returned to Spain, and the Falkland Islands left open to an unopposed invasion by Argentina.
“Even more concerning would be the prospect of British troops, under European command, operating in the Eastern Ukraine.”
Conservative MP Dr Julian Lewis, of the Commons’ Defence Committee, said: “Opponents of the European army concept have always said that this would undermine the whole basis of Nato.
 
 

An European Army would be a tragedy for the UK. We have all seen the utter mess the EU has made of the eurozone economy, so how can we even think of trusting them with this island’s defence
Mike Hookem, Ukip spokesman

“Having blundered in making clumsy overtures to Ukraine, the EU now wants to tell President Putin that it will stand up to him without the support of the United States.
“The whole basis of Nato’s existence was to show any potential aggressor that an attack on any of its European member states would instantly trigger a conflict with America. This foolishness strikes at the heart of European security.”

European Commission President Mr Juncker, who has long advocated a European force, told Germany’s Welt am Sonntag Sunday newspaper: “Such an army would help us to build a common foreign and security policy, as well as jointly assume the responsibilities of Europe in the world.
“Europe’s image has suffered dramatically and also in terms of foreign policy, we don’t seem to be taken entirely seriously.”
Such a force could, he said, “react credibly” to dangers facing the EU’s 28 member states or its neighbours.

Moscow’s suspicions of such a move will be compounded by Mr Juncker’s specific statement that forming such a body would make clear to Russia that the EU is “serious about upholding the value of the European Union”.
Mr Juncker insisted the force would not be in competition with Nato, the 28-member alliance which includes most but not all EU countries and which the UK views as the bedrock of western defence cooperation.
“Rather a European army would bring an intensive cooperation in the development and the purchase of military equipment and bring substantial savings,” said former Luxembourg prime minister Mr Juncker.

Policy-makers in Germany also backed the Euro-army move. Norbert Rottgen, chairman of the German Parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee, said the “time had come” for such a development.
“The Europeans spend enormous sums of money for the military combined, much more than Russia,” said Mr Rottgen.
“But our military capabilities remain an insufficient security policy as long as we maintain small national armies, which make and buy many parts of the same thing on a smaller scale.”

German Green MEP Jan Philipp Albrecht said: “I support Juncker in building an EU army, if it means the termination of all EU member states’ armies and is controlled by the European Parliament.”

Last month German Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen said an EU army should be a long-term goal.
Proposals for an EU defence force were first formally spelt out in the Lisbon Treaty which came into force in December 2009.

Britain has insisted it must keep its own Armed Forces but with the freedom to cooperate voluntarily with other states as circumstances dictate.
Under a deal signed by then PM Tony Blair, Britain has a particularly strong defence relationship with fellow major military power France.
Ukip said Mr Juncker’s comments bore out the warnings it has issued in the face of denials by mainstream politicians - including Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg who last year accused Nigel Farage of peddling “a dangerous fantasy” by saying Europe wanted its own force.

“This island nation with interests around the world must have its own forces to protect its interests,” Mr Hookem added.
Amid the ongoing row over whether the Conservatives will commit to continue spending the Nato recommended minimum of two per cent of national output on defence, Mr Hookem said Ukip would do so, as well as reversing coalition Armed Forces cuts.
EU states have been split on how to respond to Russian aggression in Ukraine.

Britain has been one of the strongest supporters of tough sanctions designed to make Vladimir Putin back off.
Former EU foreign policy chief and one-time Nato secretary-general Javier Solana is said to be publishing a report today MONDAY calling for a new EU security strategy including the possibility of intervention outside the EU’s borders.

A UK government spokesman insisted: “Our position is crystal clear that defence is a national, not an EU responsibility and that there is no prospect of that position changing and no prospect of a European army.”

 

inače, ovaj solanin plan ima da se pročita ovde, (tj policy paper koji je u suštini to) i nije tako dramatičan da 'pravi eu vojsku' ali zato pametno, u okviru postojećih dogoovora i institucionalnog okvira predlaže niz koraka napred ka tom cilju.

[hazard]

Ne živi se od stare slave, sve smo ratove u poslednjih 20 godina izgubili, morali bi da se dokazujemo... Koga bi mogli da sobalimo na brzaka? Blgare? Magyare? Crnu Goru?

Ovaj, izgubili smo od NATO, inače nam i nije išlo toliko loše