Opšti topik o EU (ex kriza Evrozone)

[frn1782]

jako tesko dati kintu sacici budala bilo gde u svetu

[Roger Sanchez]

I jaja. Neće valjda trošiti vlastitu kintu za jaja, tolke budale nisu.

 

Telefonika Lakonika

[Eraserhead]

jako tesko dati kintu sacici budala bilo gde u svetu

Ako je suditi po reakciji publike skupo ih je kostala ta operacija. Mnogo placenika.

[Roger Sanchez]

Spanish prosecutors are to file criminal charges against Catalan President Artur Mas in response to a 9 November unofficial independence vote.

The non-binding vote went ahead despite fierce opposition by the Spanish government and a ruling by Spain's constitutional court.

Catalan officials say more than 80% of those who voted backed independence.

Charges will also be laid against Mr Mas's deputy, Joana Ortega, and Catalan Education Minister Irene Rigau.

good luck with that

[Kampokei]

Moja katalonska drugarica, inace novinarka, misli da opcija si-si trenutno nema vecinu, tj da bi se vecina zadovoljila federalizacijom (opcija si-no). Ali kaze i da je PP zapravo stranka koja Kataloniju gura napolje. Reklo bi se da nije daleko od istine.

[Roger Sanchez]

Ima još..

Homs has also made reference to the decision reached by the Spanish Minister of Finances, Cristobal Montoro, to not renew the Catalan Funding Model. Homs stated that "it is the perfect example of overseeing the legality, because the Law on Autonomous Communities’ Funding establishes a deadline to either develop a new funding model or to renew the current one”. “I don’t know if they will prosecute him” revealed Spokesman Homs.

[Budja]

Moja katalonska drugarica, inace novinarka, misli da opcija si-si trenutno nema vecinu, tj da bi se vecina zadovoljila federalizacijom (opcija si-no). Ali kaze i da je PP zapravo stranka koja Kataloniju gura napolje. Reklo bi se da nije daleko od istine.

 

Umesto da im lepo daju referendum sa jednim pitanjem, i onda namiguju da ako bude NO, evo federalizacije. Skotski scenario.

[Tribun_Populi]

Lidl i Aldi ruše "veliku četvorku"Izvor: B92, Independent

London -- Britanska "velika četvorka" supermarketa Sejnsberi, Asda, Morisons i Tesko gube bitku za mušterije i novac od jeftinijih nemačkih lanaca Aldija i Lidla.

 

Kako piše "Independent", po prvi put u poslednjih 20 godina zabeležen je pad prodaje u supermarketima u 12-nedeljnom periodu u odnosu na prošlu godinu, a da pad bude samo 0,2 odsto pobrinuli su se Aldi i Lidl koji su zabeležili značajan rast.

 

 

 

 

 

Tesko, koji ovih dana ima i sudskih problema, zabeležio je pad prodaje od 3,7 odsto, dok su Morisons i Sejnsberi pali za 3,3 i 2,5 odsto.

 

Najveći deo mušterija oteli su im jeftiniji lanci, a Morisons je čak saopštio da će "uskoro imati iste cene kao Aldi i Lidl".

 

Na drugoj strani, Aldi je povećao prodaju za impresivnih 25,5 odsto, a Lidl za veoma solidnih 16,8 odsto.

 

 

Sad još samo Najdžel da dobije 20% na narednim izborima pa da Kameron krene sa kampanjom.

[Zaz_pi]

Vidim Italijani nemaju problema zbog ruskih sankcija:

 

Italian Unemployment Rate Rises to Record, Above Forecasts

By Chiara Vasarri Nov 28, 2014 12:38 PM GMT+0100

Italy’s unemployment rate unexpectedly rose above 13 percent in October, setting a record as businesses refrain from hiring amid the country’s longest recession since World War II.

 

Ovi ce uskoro rekorde da postavljaju kao Hrvatska u EU.

 

Evo i junacina:

 

Poland's GDP growth to slow down next year - OECD

Nov 26, 2014 - 07:35 GM

Edited December 3, 2014 by Zaz_pi

[Eraserhead]

Sigurno je zbog ruskih sankcija

[borris_]

Te obostrane sankcije nisu nikome pomogle. Uglavnom su dosle u najgorem trenutku za sve. 

[Zaz_pi]

Sigurno je zbog ruskih sankcija

 

Ma, jok:

 

Eurozone recovery stutters in November

The Eurozone’s recovery stuttered in November, with economic activity rising at the slowest pace in almost a year and a half, according to an influential poll of purchasing managers.

The final purchasing managers’ index for the region, compiled by data firm Markit, fell to 51.1 last month from 52.1 in October. The figure, which is just above the crucial 50 level that marks an expansion in activity, is the lowest for 16 months and will raise pressure on officials to unveil fresh measures to boost growth.

European Central Bank policy makers meet on Wednesday to discuss whether to extend its asset purchases, now limited to covered bonds and asset-backed securities, to include corporate or sovereign debt.

While most ECB watchers do not expect a decision on either measure as soon as Thursday, more signs of a lacklustre recovery will raise expectations of action in the first quarter of next year.

The PMIs pointed to anaemic demand, with most of the weakness in the recovery down to the poor performance of the dominant services industry. The reading for services fell to 51.1, from 52.3 last month. Services companies are much more reliant on eurozone consumers than manufacturers.

Chris Williamson, chief economist at Markit, said: “The survey results indicate that policy initiatives currently announced have yet to have a meaningful impact on business or consumer confidence in the region, and that more aggressive measures are likely to be needed, and quickly implemented, if another recession is to be averted.”

The final figures for Germany and France, the currency area’s largest economies, were worse than first thought. The German PMI was 51.7, down from a flash estimate of 52.1 and the lowest for 17 months. Activity in France contracted at its fastest pace for nine months, its reading falling to 47.9, against a slightly higher flash estimate of 48.4.

Price pressures remained weak, with input costs rising at their slowest pace since the spring and companies continuing to slash prices to boost competitiveness.

Official data showed consumer inflation in the region fell back to 0.3 per cent last month, on a par with the five-year low recorded in September and well below the ECB’s target of just under 2 per cent.

 

Cudno, kada se zna da je nafta pala 30% u novembru. Po tebi, i onom nasem dragom komsiji, trebalo bi da EU ima ubrzani rast. Nesto mislim da ce uskoro i u SAD da krene slicno posle ocajnickog pumpanje Obame pred izbore sa potrosnjom(i drzavnom) i zalihama u BDP.

[Eraserhead]

I to opet nema veze sa sankcijama rusije. Evropska ekonomija je klimava vec godinama. Ekonomija Rusije je velicine Italije, a sankcije su uvedene delimicno tako da to ne moze imati uticaj ni na klimavost ekonomije EU ni na nezaposlenost u Italiji.

[Zaz_pi]

Ruska ekonomija je mozda i manja danas od italijanske ako racunas po nominalnoj vrednosti. Ovaj pad rublje najbolje prikazuje kako je racunanje BDP u nominalnom odnosu mnogo volatilan. Bolje je ppp, sto je blize onome sto u SAD ovu real GDP, sa deflatorom, a tu je ruska ekonomija u rangu Nemacke.

To je prvo.

Sankcije itekako imaju uticaj na ekonomije EU jer Rusija, zbog npr. pada rublje, manje kupuje EU proizvode, oni postaju skuplji u Rusiji(pogledati Nemacku), manje turista dolazi. Plus, Rusija je uvela sankcije na poljoprivredne prozivode iz EU. Gomila kompanija iz EU gubi poslove u Rusiji, to najvise osecaju italijani i Nemci, i time moraju da rezu radnu sangu kod kuce...gomila stvari.

uzgred, Svajacarci rekli da oni nece podrzati dalje sankcije prema Rusiji jedino akoUNSC uvede sankcije Rusiji i oni ce

 

MOSCOW, December 3 (Sputnik) — Switzerland is not planning to introduce sanctions against Russia but will do so, should they be imposed by the United Nations Security Council (UNSC), Swiss Ambassador to Russia, Pierre Helg told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.

Edited December 3, 2014 by Zaz_pi

[Eraserhead]

Cak i PPP gledano, a Budja je vec sa tobom pricao na temu PPPa, nemacka ekonomija je za 27% veca od ruske. Moja poenta je da ruske sancije nemaju dobimantan uticaj na ekonomska kretanja u EU. Ona su bila losa i pre sankcija i obim ruskog uticaja je isuvise mali. Povezivati nezaposlenost u Italiji i sankcije rusije je smesno. Ali ti si tu ionako da trolujes tako da samo napred.