Lezilebovich Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Još će Kipar otvoriti nove frontove Moskva -- Premijer Dmitrij Medvedev zapretio je da će Rusija preispitati učešće evra u ruskim rezervama ako rešenje za finansijsku krizu na Kipru pogodi ruske interese.
Аврам Гојић Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 tviter pokazuje znake full blown panike. gomila tvitova tvrdi da se Laiki trajno zatvara u roku od sat-dva.ima puno fotki sa redovima ispret ATM-ova.
Dr Arslanagić Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Nema sanse da se ovo ne prelije dalje i to vrlo brzo.
Аврам Гојић Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 pogotovo sto ECB izgleda pribegava taktici gasenja vatre benzinom.
Strucnjak Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) Kakve ovo moze imati posledice po kiparske banke u Srbiji? Da li su stedni ulozi npr u Marfin banci ugrozeni? Moje cale ima neku crkavicu basu Marfin banci, da mu kazem da to povlaci? Edited March 21, 2013 by Strucnjak
Muwan Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 hopla, to mu dodje nekadasnja Marfin Bank?zar oni nisu imali i filijale po Srbiji?U Srbiji se još uvek zovu Marfin, a prethodno su bili Laiki (kada su preuzimali Centrobanku). Posle su se spajale tri velike grupacije pa je međunarodna grupa postala Marfin a keva na Kipru ostala Laiki. Ovde im je korporativna povijest.
duda Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 je li ova naša eurobankefg grčka ili naša ?imam neku kintu tamo pa se pitam jel' da vadimmada, naša država garantuje za te male ulogenisam znala dal pod navodnike da stavim država ili garantuje
Muwan Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Kakve ovo moze imati posledice po kiparske banke u Srbiji? Da li su stedni ulozi npr u Marfin banci ugrozeni? Moje cale ima neku crkavicu basu Marfin banci, da mu kazem da to povlaci?Marfin Bank je domaće pravno lice tako da po važećim zakonima, NBS garantuje depozite do 50k evra - makar je na papiru tako. U praksi, Marfin zauzima veoma mali deo domaćeg tržišta tako da država može da izgura njihove depozite ali ako se ovo prelije samo na grčke banke (a kamoli kompletan sistem), te garancije neće vredeti više od suhoga lista.
Muwan Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 je li ova naša eurobankefg grčka ili naša ?imam neku kintu tamo pa se pitam jel' da vadimmada, naša država garantuje za te male ulogenisam znala dal pod navodnike da stavim država ili garantuje Sve strane banke su po zakonu domaća pravna lica, jedino im je većinski kapital strani. Eurobank je grčka banka koja se u Grčkoj upravo spaja sa National Bank of Greece (koja u Srbiji poseduje Vojvođansku banku). Ovako odokativno, rekao bih da za razliku od minijaturnog Marfina naša "država" već kod Eurobanke ne bi više ništa mogla da "garantuje" bilo kome.
nautilus Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Kakve ovo moze imati posledice po kiparske banke u Srbiji? Da li su stedni ulozi npr u Marfin banci ugrozeni? Moje cale ima neku crkavicu basu Marfin banci, da mu kazem da to povlaci?Marfin banka u Srbiji je samostalno privredno drustvo sa sopstvenom imovinom i sopstvenim poslovima. Teoretski samo ce se promijeniti vlasnik, a od kinte dobijene prodajom akcija Marfin banke Srbija ce se namiriti poverioci kiparske banke.Uloge do 50k evra garantuje Srbija tako da tu nema straha.Ukoliko je Marfin banka Srbija imala lose grcke i kiparske investicije bankrotirace nezavisno od Laiki banke.
Muwan Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Marfin banka Srbija ima ne loše, nego kriminalne investicije u Srbiji. Potpuno nezavisno od toga da li su i šta investirali u Grčkoj/Kipru.
CPP Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 NICOSIA The leadership of Cyprus has agreed to set up an investment solidarity fund to raise the necessary money to meet the island’s obligations in the bailout programmeA statement from the Government Spokesman said: “Following a proposal by the president there was consensus and a unanimous decision to set up an investment solidarity fund.”The proposal was undergoing legal and technical processing by the Law Office of the Republic, the statement added.If necessary the council of Ministers will be convened to approve it and it will be forwarded to the House of Representatives for the remainder. Ovde ima ponesto vesti na engleskom.
CPP Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 The president of Cyprus is meeting political leaders to hammer out a "Plan B" to shore up debt-laden banks - a condition for securing a huge bailout.Cyprus's banks, which have been shut all week to prevent mass withdrawals, are to stay closed until next Tuesday.Politicians have been scrambling to find a way forward after an unpopular levy on bank deposits was rejected by parliament on Tuesday.The European Central Bank has warned it may halt emergency funding on Monday.The tax on bank deposits, which provoked street protests, is required for a 10bn-euro (£8.5bn; $13bn) EU-IMF loan."A decision on a Cyprus rescue must be made on Thursday at the latest," said President Nicos Anastasiades, quoted by the official CNA news agency.Mr Anastasiades is putting a proposal to party leaders. It is then expected to go before parliament in the afternoon, according to CNA.State TV said the plan might include a levy on bank deposits over 100,000 euros.The previous proposals had also included a levy on deposits between 20,000 and 100,000 euros, which had outraged many Cypriots.The new plan is also reported to involve nationalising pension funds.'Good beginning'Adding to the pressure, the European Central Bank (ECB) has warned that it will continue providing emergency funding for Cypriot banks until Monday, but no longer - unless there is a bailout deal to ensure that the banks can be made financially viable.One official told the Associated Press that the new Cypriot plan would include "some form" of Russian help, but did not elaborate.Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has scorned the eurozone's bailout plan for Cyprus, accusing EU leaders of behaving "like a bull in a china shop".In Moscow on Thursday he told European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso that all interested parties, including Russia, should be included in a deal for Cyprus.The Cypriot Finance Minister Michalis Sarris is in Moscow for a second day to negotiate assistance from Russia, which has multi-billion dollar investments in Cyprus.Mr Sarris said after talks on Wednesday with Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov that there had been "no offers, nothing concrete," but "a good beginning".Cyprus has attracted money through its low tax rates, with Russians holding between a third and a half of all Cypriot deposits.Russian private and corporate assets in Cypriot banks are believed to total about 23bn euro, including many larger deposits, and Russian officials had expressed anger at the bank levy plans.Analysts say Russia may provide more funding in return for interests in Cyprus' offshore energy fields.The controversial bank levy had been proposed as a condition for the 10bn-euro bailout. Cyprus was expected to raise 5.8bn euros through the one-off tax on bank savings.In total Cyprus has been told to find 7bn euros, to make the international loan sustainable for its small economy. In addition to the 5.8bn, Cyprus has to get revenue from privatisations, a capital gains tax increase and a 2.5% increase in the corporate tax rate, currently at 10%, to bring in a total of 7bn euros.Bankruptcy fearsMonday 25 March is a scheduled bank holiday in Cyprus, and Thursday and Friday have now also been declared bank holidays. The stock exchange also remains closed.Bank mergers, a bond issue, and more Russian funding have all been mentioned as ways to help the country out of the crisis.One offer of help has come from Cyprus's Orthodox Church, which is a major shareholder in the third-largest domestic lender, the Hellenic Bank.Archbishop Chrysostomos I said on Wednesday the Church was willing to mortgage its assets to invest in government bonds.The establishment of a "bad bank" which would take on risky assets held by Cypriot banks has also been mentioned by officials.The BBC's Mark Lowen, in Nicosia, says Cyprus is a resilient nation and the banks are still giving out cash through machines - although with limits, and some are running low.Some businesses are now refusing credit card payments, our correspondent reports.On Wednesday, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she regretted but respected the Cypriot vote.She said the eurozone had a duty to find a solution for Cyprus, but added that the country's current banking system was "not sustainable".Cyprus' banks were left exposed following the debt crisis in Greece and there are fears Cyprus could go bankrupt if they fail.The bank levy plan was altered on Tuesday to exempt savers with less than 20,000 euros, but a 6.75% charge on deposits of 20,000-100,000 euros and a 9.9% charge for those above 100,000 euros remained.However, parliament rejected the deal, with 36 MPs voting against it, 19 abstaining and none in favour.Ne znam izvor, dobih mailom.
barrcode Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Ovde ima ponesto vesti na engleskom.Unfortunately for Cyprus, that plan is unacceptable to the troika simply because it increases the total lending volume.
CPP Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 The new plan is also reported to involve nationalising pension funds.Klackalica ode na drugu stranu. Zaboravih da napomenem da su kod prvobitnog predloga mnogi bili uzdrzani sa reakcijama, jer je ustedjevina uglavnom ispod 100k ali pemzija (tj, zajednicki fond) nije.Smesno je da smo na svakoj skupstini fonda imali prakticno jednoglasje da se klonimo Grcke/deonica/bondova i da gadjamo samo konzervativne banke, bez obzira na visinu kamate.
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