3 hours ago, Filozof manijak said:

Sve više sam mišljenja kako su pregovori bili samo maskirovka ne bi li se omogućilo Izraelu da napadne dok su Iranci bili nepripremljeni,

Ne, ja pre mislim da je Iran otpuno obavestajno izbusen te je Iran molio za neku pregovaracku masku da ne bude napada.

Ta izbusenost se videla na primeru Hezbolaha, laganog pustanja Asada niz vodu a verovatno slabljenje potice od ubistva Sulejmanija.

Tolika slabost moze da vodi i kraju rezima ako se to hoce kao cilj.

A da je cudno da sefovi vojske nisu u bunkerima vec u spavacim sobama kada je napad bio iizvestan, cudno je.

24 minutes ago, vememah said:

Ceo tekst tvita:

You can't make this shit up

https://x.com/JimVandeHei/status/1933482365395087651

1 minute ago, Budja said:

Ne, ja pre mislim da je Iran otpuno obavestajno izbusen te je Iran molio za neku pregovaracku masku da ne bude napada.

Ta izbusenost se videla na primeru Hezbolaha, laganog pustanja Asada niz vodu a verovatno slabljenje potice od ubistva Sulejmanija.

Tolika slabost moze da vodi i kraju rezima ako se to hoce kao cilj.

A da je cudno da sefovi vojske nisu u bunkerima vec u spavacim sobama kada je napad bio iizvestan, cudno je.

Bojim se da im ni bunkeri ne bi pomogli.

Izrael očigledno ima mogućnost da ubije koga hoće i kada hoće.

Između ostalog, ova akcija je to trebalo opet da pokaže i pokazala je.

Da se svi lepo ukenjaju.

I uspeli su u tome, opet.

I zato će i EU da šalje MirUSvetu poruke i u trenutku kada kao posledica ovog ludila bude krenuo fallout po njenim lepim gradovima.

9 minutes ago, Budja said:

Tolika slabost moze da vodi i kraju rezima ako se to hoce kao cilj.

Da se ne zavaravamo, primarni cilj je Netajahuov ostanak na vlasti po svaku cenu i neophodnost podizanja uloga. Ali ako se kao sporedna posledica promeni rezim u Teheranu zasto da ne.

3 minutes ago, Forest said:

Bojim se da im ni bunkeri ne bi pomogli.

Izrael očigledno ima mogućnost da ubije koga hoće i kada hoće.

Između ostalog, ova akcija je to trebalo opet da pokaže i pokazala je.

Da se svi lepo ukenjaju.

I uspeli su u tome, opet.

I zato će i EU da šalje MirUSvetu poruke i u trenutku kada kao posledica ovog ludila bude krenuo fallout po njenim lepim gradovima.

Realno, EU je ove nebitan faktor.

Ono sto je bitno je podeljenost islamskog sveta. Da postoji, recimo, neki sporazum Turske, SA, Irana i Egipta ne bi se desio ni genocid u Gazi.

Izrael uspesno igra na religijsku podeljenost i zeljom za dominacijom nad islamskim svetom razlicitih aktera. Otud Bin Salman, kao, izrazava solidarnost sa Iranom a smesi mu se brk da stavi sapu na isti taj Iran (kada bude pobedio Hutije).

I zbog te religijske podeljenosti mnogo veci potencijal za terorizam u EU je genocid u Gazi nego napad na Iran.

Još reakcija sa sajta iranske TV:

‘Barbaric’ Israeli aggression against Iran draws global condemnation

Friday, 13 June 2025 6:06 AM  [ Last Update: Friday, 13 June 2025 1:36 PM ]

Top officials and governments around the world have condemned the Israeli aggression targeting Iran’s military commanders, nuclear scientists and civilians early Friday.

Turkey 

A top Turkish official condemned Israel’s strikes on Iran, describing them as “barbaric” and unjustifiable aggression.

Omer Celik, the spokesman for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s governing party, also maintained that the action was a diversion tactic, aimed at shifting attention away from international criticism of Israel's actions in Gaza.

“There can be no legitimacy or justification for the Israeli attack. This is barbaric aggression,” Celik said on a X post.

Celik hit out at Israel for “hostility” toward diplomatic efforts, noting that the attack took place amid ongoing negotiations between the United States and Iran.

Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia strongly condemned Israel's “heinous attacks” against the “brotherly Islamic Republic of Iran”, urging the international community to immediately stop the aggression.

“The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia expresses its strong condemnation and denunciation of the blatant Israeli aggressions against the brotherly Islamic Republic of Iran, which undermine its sovereignty and security and constitute a clear violation of international laws and norms,” the kingdom’s foreign ministry said in a statement.

“While the Kingdom condemns these heinous attacks, it affirms that the international community and the Security Council bear a great responsibility to immediately halt this aggression,” it added.

Oman

The Sultanate of Oman also condemned the aggression against Iran, emphasizing that the Zionist regime is fully responsible for this “escalation of tension and its consequences.”

In a statement cited by the official news agency, Oman warned Friday that Israel’s military action has destroyed diplomatic opportunities and severely threatened the security and stability of the region.

Oman has been mediating the indirect talks between the United States and Iran which had been gearing up for the sixth round on Sunday.

The Omani statement strongly condemned the “barbaric military attack” by the Zionist regime on the territory of the Islamic Republic of Iran, which targeted sovereign facilities and resulted in human casualties, describing it as a “dangerous, provocative and reckless” act that is a clear violation of the UN Charter and the principles of international law.

This act is a continuation of Israel’s aggressive policies, the statement said, calling on the international community to adopt a firm and clear stance against this dangerous path that sidesteps diplomatic solutions and threatens the foundations of regional security and stability.

Iraq

Iraq condemned Israel's "military aggression" against Iran, saying it violates international law and threatened global security.

"The Government of the Republic of Iraq strongly condemns the military aggression launched by the Zionist entity against the territory of the Islamic Republic of Iran," it said in a statement.

"This act represents a blatant violation of the fundamental principles of international law and the Charter of the United Nations, and constitutes a serious threat to international peace and security."

Lebanon

Lebanese President Joseph Aoun said in a statement that Israel’s attack on Iran “did not only target the Iranian people, but also all international efforts exerted to maintain stability in the Middle East and neighboring countries and avoid escalation therein”.

He called for “the international community to take effective and swift action to prevent Israel from achieving its goals”.

UAE

The United Arab Emirates condemned in the strongest terms Israel’s military targeting of the Islamic Republic of Iran, and expressed its deep concern over the ongoing escalation and its repercussions on regional security and stability, its ministry of foreign affairs said.

It reaffirmed the UAE’s position that enhancing dialogue, adhering to international law, and respecting the sovereignty of states constitute essential principles for resolving the current crises.

Pakistan

In an official statement, Pakistan’s Foreign Office expressed deep concern over what it described as a clear breach of Iran’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, saying the Israeli assault was “unjustified and contrary to the principles of the United Nations Charter.”

“Pakistan strongly condemns Israel’s military strikes inside Iranian territory. These actions are a blatant violation of international law and the UN Charter,” the FO spokesperson said. “Iran, as a sovereign nation, has every right to defend itself under Article 51 of the UN Charter.”

Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar also issued a stern condemnation of the Israeli action. In a message posted on X (formerly Twitter), Dar wrote:

“Strongly condemn unjustified Israeli attacks on Islamic Republic of Iran which is a brazen violation of Iran’s sovereignty. This abhorrent action has shaken foundations of international law as well as conscience of humanity, and gravely undermines regional stability and international security. Pakistan stands in solidarity with the Government and the people of Iran.”

Afghanistan 

Afghanistan's Taliban authorities also condemned the wave of Israeli strikes on Iran, saying the attacks violate international law and fuel regional insecurity.

The strikes "constitute a clear violation of the fundamental principles of international law, particularly national sovereignty", Taliban government spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid posted in a statement on X.

"The continuation of such tension-provoking actions has made the situation in the region even more fragile and worrying," he wrote.

Hamas

In a statement, Palestinian resistance Hamas expressed "full solidarity with the Islamic Republic of Iran".

"The Zionist aggression against Iran is a dangerous development that underscores the existential nature of the battle with the central enemy of the Ummah. It demands a unified stance that deters the occupation and puts an end to its crimes," it said.

"This aggression constitutes a dangerous escalation that threatens to destabilize the region," said the movement. "Today, Iran is paying the price for its steadfast stance in support of Palestine and its resistance."

Yemen 

Yemen's Ansarullah condemned the Israeli strikes, saying the Islamic Republic has the right to defend itself and develop its nuclear program.

"We support Iran's full and legitimate right to defend itself and to develop its nuclear program," Ansarullah's political bureau said in a statement on Telegram.

"We strongly condemn the brutal Israeli aggression against the Islamic Republic of Iran and affirm its full and legitimate right to respond by all possible means," it added.

Russia 

The Kremlin condemned and expressed concern over what it called a "sharp escalation" between Israel and Iran.

"Russia is concerned and condemns the sharp escalation of tensions," spokesman Dmitry Peskov told state news agencies.

The Russian embassy in Tel Aviv also urged Russians in the Israeli occupied territories to leave them if they could and said it "strongly recommends" against travelling there.

Malaysia 

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim condemned the aggression, saying Malaysia calls on Israel’s allies, especially those with influence and the power to exert pressure, to use all available means to halt further acts of aggression.

He stressed that the international community must not allow actions that sabotage diplomatic efforts and threaten global peace to continue unchecked.

“This attack is a reckless and serious act that further endangers the stability of an already fragile region.

“The intention is clear — to derail the ongoing negotiations between the United States and Iran,” he said in a social media post.

Anwar added that the attack came at a time when Israel's actions in Gaza are facing increasing scrutiny and political pressure is mounting on prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Indonesia 

Indonesia said it "strongly condemns Israel's attack on Iran".

The Indonesian Foreign Ministry and the Indonesian embassy in Tehran issued similar statements, emphasizing that the attack undermines international law and risks escalating regional tensions.

Indonesia's stance aligns with the broader international condemnation of the Israeli attack.

Cuba

Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel also strongly condemned the Israeli attacks, calling them an irresponsible escalation of tensions in the West Asian region.

He warned that the attacks pose unpredictable risks to regional and global peace and security.

Venezuela

The Venezuelan government also issued a statement condemning Israel's aggression on Iranian soil, describing it as part of the "black record of crimes by the Netanyahu regime."

Caracas stressed that the provocative act violates international law and contradicts the peace-loving logic of the international community.

Japan

Japan "strongly" condemned the Israel's airstrikes on Iran, Foreign Minister Takeshi Iwaya told reporters in Tokyo on Friday, calling for restraint from all parties.

"We strongly condemn the latest action that escalates the situation," he said.

"Peace and stability in the Middle East region are extremely important to Japan, and we urge all parties involved to exercise the utmost restraint and calm the situation."

United Nations

The spokesperson for Antonio Guterres said the UN “Secretary-General condemns any military escalation in the Middle East”.

“He is particularly concerned by Israeli attacks on nuclear installations in Iran while talks between Iran and the United States on the status of Iran's nuclear program are underway.”

India

A statement by the Indian Ministry of External Affairs said the country was “deeply concerned at the recent developments between Iran and Israel”.

“We are closely monitoring the evolving situation, including reports related to attacks on nuclear sites,” it said.

“Existing channels of dialogue and diplomacy should be utilized to work towards a de-escalation of the situation and resolving underlying issues,” it added.

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/13/749721/Oman--Israel-responsible-for-consequences-of-%E2%80%98barbaric%E2%80%99-aggression-

Edited yesterday at 13:421 day by vememah

Nastavljaju se napadi i danas. Pogođeno je svašta nešto u Tebrizu, sekundarne detonacije. Pitanje je sada ima li Iran uopšte snage da odgovori balističkim raketama ili su im i to mogućnost uništili ili značajno oštetili. Na zapadu Irana lete Izraelski obaveštajni dronovi što govori da tamo nema PVO više.

38 minutes ago, Budja said:

Realno, EU je ove nebitan faktor.

Ono sto je bitno je podeljenost islamskog sveta. Da postoji, recimo, neki sporazum Turske, SA, Irana i Egipta ne bi se desio ni genocid u Gazi.

Izrael uspesno igra na religijsku podeljenost i zeljom za dominacijom nad islamskim svetom razlicitih aktera. Otud Bin Salman, kao, izrazava solidarnost sa Iranom a smesi mu se brk da stavi sapu na isti taj Iran (kada bude pobedio Hutije).

I zbog te religijske podeljenosti mnogo veci potencijal za terorizam u EU je genocid u Gazi nego napad na Iran.

Nebitan, naravno, pričam o opštem utisku sveprisutne globalne ukenjanosti od Izraela koji se vidi i u ovim EU reakcijama, kao što se vidi recimo kada nas tri nebitna lika vodimo nebitan razgovor negde u RL, i onda jedan kaže nešto na temu izraelskog ludila. Pa onda u polu-šali doda "Mislim, nisam tako mislio..."

Edited yesterday at 14:151 day by Forest

Sad je izbor na Iranu. Ili ce polizati rane, dignuti buku i, u stvari, nista ne uraditi, ili ce uci u dugotrajni i iscrpljujuci rat sa Izraelom gde ce privih par desetina udara dronovima ili krstarecim raketama biti neuspesno ali na dug rok ce iscrpiti izraelsku PVO i pritisnuti im ekonomiju, turizam, i, u krajnjem slucaju, u jednom trenutku postati sve efikasniji.

Kapa dole Mosadu za pripremu ovoga. Videcemo da li je politicka odluka da se udje u rat sa Iranom bila ispravna, pokazace vreme, ali oni su svoj posao uradili kako treba.

1 hour ago, harper lee said:

Mi sada vec polako ulazimo u fazu za koju sam mislio da je nikad necu izreci jer se obicno vezuje za islamsku propagandu protiv Izraela, ili ce Izrael prestati da postoji ili ce prestati da postoji citav taj region dole a mozda i dobar komad ostatka sveta. Politika "izabranog naroda" da svojom bezbednoscu opravdava najgnusnije zlocine protiv civila je jednostavno postala neprihvatljiva.

Zašto neprihvatljiva? Mislim kome?

59 minutes ago, vememah said:

Da i ova ne ostane zapostavljena.

https://x.com/kajakallas/status/1933445888879313402

Može neki 18. paket sankcija sestro zbog rešavanja diplomatskih problema agresivnim ratom? Nije da vam nije poznato.

Inače, moram priznati da apsolutno ne vidim koji je to benefit koji bilo koja zemlja u svetu može imati od dobrih odnosa sa Izraelom, osim izbegavanja toga da vam oni ili SAD negde ne polome nos. Država koja prema svima nastupa osiono i arogantno, baš od svakog sagovornika traži apsolutno i bezuslovno razumevanje za sopstvenu istorijsku misiju, a zauzvrat nudi ništa i nikome. Mir u svom okruženju uspostavlja isključivo silom i strahom, ne dozvoljava nikakav dogovor ili razgovor o bilo čemu, ne pravi nikada nikakve ustupke, tretira veliki deo sopstvene populacije kao građane trinaestog reda isključivo na osnovu rasne pripadnosti. Bukvalno jedini razlog zbog koga treba biti dobar sa njima je da te ne polome ili ne krenu da naoružavaju neke tvoje neprijatelje, da dobiješ od njih neke druge benefite nema nikakve šanse, jer ili ne mogu ili ne žele da ti ih daju.

2 minutes ago, Zaboravan said:

Zašto neprihvatljiva? Mislim kome?

Na primer, nevinim zrtvama koje nediskriminatorski ostavljaju za sobom u hiljadama.

10 minutes ago, Ayatollah said:

Inače, moram priznati da apsolutno ne vidim koji je to benefit koji bilo koja zemlja u svetu može imati od dobrih odnosa sa Izraelom, osim izbegavanja toga da vam oni ili SAD negde ne polome nos.

Nekada je i to dovoljno... Eto Jordan npr. relativno bez trzavica bitiše u sred svih dešavanja.

12 minutes ago, Ayatollah said:

Može neki 18. paket sankcija sestro zbog rešavanja diplomatskih problema agresivnim ratom? Nije da vam nije poznato.

Inače, moram priznati da apsolutno ne vidim koji je to benefit koji bilo koja zemlja u svetu može imati od dobrih odnosa sa Izraelom, osim izbegavanja toga da vam oni ili SAD negde ne polome nos. Država koja prema svima nastupa osiono i arogantno, baš od svakog sagovornika traži apsolutno i bezuslovno razumevanje za sopstvenu istorijsku misiju, a zauzvrat nudi ništa i nikome. Mir u svom okruženju uspostavlja isključivo silom i strahom, ne dozvoljava nikakav dogovor ili razgovor o bilo čemu, ne pravi nikada nikakve ustupke, tretira veliki deo sopstvene populacije kao građane trinaestog reda isključivo na osnovu rasne pripadnosti. Bukvalno jedini razlog zbog koga treba biti dobar sa njima je da te ne polome ili ne krenu da naoružavaju neke tvoje neprijatelje, da dobiješ od njih neke druge benefite nema nikakve šanse, jer ili ne mogu ili ne žele da ti ih daju.

To i jeste razlog. Izrael kontrolise USA preko njenih mocnika koje drzi za muda a USA i dalje moze prakticno svakog da polomi. Otuda i ovo EU smatranje, kao i mlake reakcije celog sveta. Pre ce USA uci u rat sa nekim ako taj neko ugrozi izraelske interese a ne americke. Otkini USA od Izraela i imaces koliko sutra ponovo ujedinjeni arapski front plus EU koja im lupa packe.

18 minutes ago, nautilus said:

Sad je izbor na Iranu. Ili ce polizati rane, dignuti buku i, u stvari, nista ne uraditi, ili ce uci u dugotrajni i iscrpljujuci rat sa Izraelom gde ce privih par desetina udara dronovima ili krstarecim raketama biti neuspesno ali na dug rok ce iscrpiti izraelsku PVO i pritisnuti im ekonomiju, turizam, i, u krajnjem slucaju, u jednom trenutku postati sve efikasniji.

Kapa dole Mosadu za pripremu ovoga. Videcemo da li je politicka odluka da se udje u rat sa Iranom bila ispravna, pokazace vreme, ali oni su svoj posao uradili kako treba.

Nisam cuo ni za jedan skinuti izraelski avion a ne sumnjam da bi se Iranci hvalili. Da li uopste Iran ima snage da zaustavi ove napade Izraela? Koliko ce im ostati za napad ako im Izrael polupa sve vojne fabrike i baze?