Yoyogi Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Nesto se kuva a jos nema nepoverenja u vlasti da znaju sta rade. Od pre pola sata:Explosion did not occur at Fukushima reactor: Japan spokesmanSaturday 12th March, 10:02 PM JSTTOKYO — Japanese authorities have confirmed there was an explosion at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant Saturday afternoon but it did not occur at its troubled No. 1 reactor, top government spokesman Yukio Edano said.The chief Cabinet secretary also told an urgent press conference that the operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co., has confirmed there is no damage to the steel container housing the reactor.Edano said the 3:36 p.m. explosion resulted in the roof and the walls of the building housing the reactor’s container being blown away.The authorities expanded an evacuation area for all local residents from a 10-kilometer radius of the Fukushima No. 1 and No. 2 plants to a 20-km radius.Officials of Japan’s nuclear safety agency also said after examination that they believe there has been no serious damage to the container of the No. 1 reactor, judging from the latest radiation data monitored around the facility.The incident came after the plant lost its cooling functions after it was jolted by a magnitude 8.8 earthquake Friday and radioactive substances of cesium and iodine were detected near the facility Saturday.The detection of the materials, which are created following atomic fission, led Japan’s nuclear safety agency to admit the reactor has been partially melting—the first such case in Japan.A partial core meltdown also occurred in a major nuclear accident at Three Mile Island in the United States in 1979. About 45 percent of nuclear fuel was melted in the incident, causing radioactive materials to be released.According to the Fukushima prefectural government, the hourly radiation from the Fukushima plant reached 1,015 micro sievert in its premises before the explosion, an amount equivalent to that allowable for ordinary people in one year.Four workers—two from the company and two others from another firm—were injured in the explosion, according to Tokyo Electric Power. The four were working to deal with problems caused by a powerful earthquake that hit northeastern Japan on Friday, it said.The company said the injuries the four have suffered are not life-threatening and that they are conscious.The operator of the quake-hit nuclear plants in Fukushima Prefecture, successfully released pressure in the container of housing one of its reactors to prevent a nuclear meltdown, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said.Even before Tokyo Electric Power succeeded in reducing the pressure, which would involve the release of steam that would likely include radioactive materials, radiation had risen to an unusually high level in and near the No. 1 nuclear plant.Work to depressurize the containers, aimed at preventing the plants from sustaining damage and losing their critical containment function, has been conducted under an unprecedented government order.The agency said the core at the No. 1 reactor of the No. 1 plant may be partially melting, and the work to depressurize the container was necessary to prevent the container from sustaining damage and losing its critical containment function.The agency said that as a result of reducing the container’s pressure radioactive levels at the plant went up. The depressurizing work involves the release of steam including radioactive materials.But the agency denied that the radiation amount will pose an immediate threat to the health of nearby residents, as wind is currently blowing toward the sea in the northeastern Japan prefecture on the Pacific coast.At the No. 1 plant, the amount of radiation reached around 1,000 times the normal level in the control room of the No. 1 reactor, and 70 times the normal level near the main gate of the plant.It was the first time an external radioactive leak had been confirmed since the disaster.
kapetanm Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Čitajući sve ove strahote, uvek se setim Kineskog sindroma- onog filma.Koliko je u stvari u Japanu sada nuklearki u opasnosti ? Razumeo sam dve ?
Marvin (Paranoid Android) Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Snimak od juče, ovo je jezivo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkBKwLJ6tqY
dux Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Da nisu tako elastične te zgrade, slike bi bile još jezivije.Nakon svega ovoga je valjda jasno da će 2012. godinu preživeti Japanci. Edited March 12, 2011 by dux
Marvin (Paranoid Android) Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Naravno, nisu pale samo zbog te elastičnosti, ali videti nebodere da se ovoliko njišu golim okom...
Yoyogi Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Haha, ona crna zgrada u sredini, to je moj ofis u Tokiju. Shinjuku.Desno je JR East HQ. Levo je Century Tower hotel i Microsoft HQ unutra.Dobro su one napucane, ne bi lako pale i za jos neki stepen rihtera. Naravno, nije prijatno biti unutra dok lelujaju.Odlican snimak, to sam odavno trazio. Dok su bili zemljotresi (ne veliki kao ovaj) iznutra ne moze da se snimi jer i sam lelujas sa zgradom. Sacuvacu ovaj Youtube.
anantaram Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) One i trebaju tako da se drmaju tokom zemljotresa, zbog elastične podloge koja treba da apsorbuje potrese. Yoyogi, ovo se izgleda smiruje. Japanski zvaničnici govore da se smanjuje pritisak i radijacija. Ima li nekih drugih informacija? Edited March 12, 2011 by anantaram
Yoyogi Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Da nisu tako elastične te zgrade, slike bi bile još jezivije.Zgrade su na hidraulicnim jastucima + jaka celicna konstrukcija koju nekad arhitekti ostave da se vidi, nekad ne ali ih sve imaju.
dux Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Znam, imaju najrestriktivnije propise i zakone u visokogradnji.Ali nije mi to fascinantno (i mi smo imali takve zakone nakon sranja u Skoplju). Već organizacija, redovne vežbe, preventiva + mentalitet. Ta humana dehumanizacija (ove slike smirenih ljudi koji mirno stoje u redovima, spavaju, jedu, rade, itd).Još jednom. Edited March 12, 2011 by dux
Yoyogi Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 One i trebaju tako da se drmaju tokom zemljotresa, zbog elastične podloge koja treba da apsorbuje potrese. Yoyogi, ovo se izgleda smiruje. Japanski zvaničnici govore da se smanjuje pritisak i radijacija. Ima li nekih drugih informacija?Smirivanje je u toku ali nije potpuno dok se ne resi Fukushima-1 reaktor koji je uzbuna celoj planeti. Opet, ovako jak zemljotres nije pogodio nekoga nespremnog kao jadni Haiti (250 hiljada mrvih, 7 rihtera) i meni je, osim neizbeznog (sam zemljotres i tsunami)krivo da ta nuklearka nije bila bolje obezbedjena i da Japan stoji kao shalabajzer i pod lupom za nesto sto je, posle svega, ipak manja stvar od same nepogode. Gde svako samo to gleda, pa i neka gleda pa i zaboravi sta je u stvari bilo i sta bi bilo da je bilo negde drugde i sta bi oni radili.Za sada, vlasti izgleda znaju sta rade.
dux Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 i meni je, osim neizbeznog (sam zemljotres i tsunami)krivo da ta nuklearka nije bila bolje obezbedjena i da Japan stoji kao shalabajzer i pod lupom za nesto sto je, posle svega, ipak manja stvar od same nepogode.Vidim, njihova kultura se i na tebe primila. :)Ne bi me čudilo da kada se sve smiri i prođe, samoinicijativno odlete neke glave stomaci zbog nuklearki.
Muwan Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 1323From Kyodo news: 9,500 people unaccounted for in Miyagi's Minamisanriku: local gov't.
Yoyogi Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Vidim, njihova kultura se i na tebe primila. :)Ne bi me čudilo da kada se sve smiri i prođe, samoinicijativno odlete neke glave stomaci zbog nuklearki.Letece glave, sigurno, pogotovo oko prekida mobilne telefonije. Josh je rovito ali ce politicka sudbina danasnjih lidera biti vezana za kako su hendlovali ovu katastrofu. Jos je tesko, jos ne prave kalkulacije, ima prechih stvari.Za kulturu i mentalitet, tesko je opisati. Neko ranije rece da se ne veruje zvanicnicima.Nije tacno, bar ne ovde. Uvek, a pogotovo sada, cela nacija je jedna porodica a lideri su njene glave, kao u nekoj patrijarhalnoj porodici iz doba Koshtane i Bore Stankovica. Tu nema zajebavanja, nema lazi i prikrivanja kada sva deca gledaju na gore, u lidere. Koji idu na slobodne izbore.To osigurava da ce uraditi sve sto mogu. Opasnost je, jos nije vidljiva, da ne kazu da vise ne mogu nego da im neko drugi pomogne. Totalno je nejapanski traziti pomoc. Ako ovo ne reshe, nadam se da ce shvatiti granice svojih moci i traziti pomoc. To je u stvari sve sto je sushtina iz izvestaja medija koje o tome pojma nemaju.
Yoyogi Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Pa nije da Reuters navodi izvor sa PPP ali B92 Forum citira odavde. Podignite cenu reklama!
Yoyogi Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Kako ide zivot u tako tesko pogodjenoj zemlji?Da ne pricam kako je normalan, nije jos uvek u celoj zemlji, mada u drugim gradovima (Osaka, Nagoya, Shizuoka) osim svesti da se nesto veliko desilo, nema nekih poremecaja.Za posao, podrska korisnicima je prebacena na moj tim u Nagoji i kod mog kolege u Osaka. Premorenim tokijskim staff, dobro dodje.Kao dobro funkcionalna porodica. I moja familija shvata nasu ulogu i da sutrasnji weekend nece biti kao sto smo zamislili i da ga nece ni biti. Nekima je teze, jos teze nego nama.Tako ti je to ovde. Absorb the blow.
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