Peti oktobar na bliskom istoku i arapskom svetu

[Ryan Franco]

Super mi je i Vesli Klark koji se svai put kači kao ne znam ni ja kakva mudrost. 

 

Ali ozbiljan brainfart je nemogućnost da se napravi razlika između SAD su odgovorne za stanje u Iraku i Siriji i SAD su organizovale stanje u Iraku i Siriji.

[Anduril]

Klasika vec godinama.

Nema to veze sa racionalnim razmisljanjem i analizom politicke situacije.

 

To je prosto navijanje kao i na svim drugim topicima.

Zla Amerika naterala sirotog Asada da cini zlocine a stvorila je jos i IS dok su svi drugi igraci iskljucivo reaktivni na to prvo zlo.

Imali smo to jos i na topiku o Kosovu gde je bombardovanje isto tako predstavljeno kao uzrok ciscenja Albanaca od strane Srbije.

I u Ukrajini je politicka nestabilnost u Kijevu indukovana Sikorskim odjednom postala uzrok agresije Rusije, itd.

 

Bottom line je uvek isti - Milosevic, Asad, Gadafi, Sadam, Putin, iranske mule su uglavnom reaktivni na vece zlo sa zapada.

[Bane5]

ja svakog uputim na izvestaj.

OPCW i uopste UN nasla se u gadnom sosu (na OPCW ekipu je cak i pucano na jednoj od lokacija gde se napad sarinom desio).

oni su nasli solomonsko resenje u definiciji njihove misije koja sumirano znaci da su imali zadatak da ustanove da li je upotrebe sarina bilo, a ne da traze krivce.

otuda izostanak ko je kriv, ali bas zato mi je zanimljivo to kad neko kaze da je 'citao' izvestaj u kojem bukvalno svaka cinjenica (cinjenica!!!) odgovara samo jednoj strani/krivcu.

onom drugom sve i da natezemo ne mozemo naci nista ili tek malo toga.

zato su zanimljive i sve teorije iz redova proasadista koje se tek ponegde drze cinjenica, ali se masovno bave teroijama zavere.

fascinantno je i to da se i nakon izvestaja oni bave odbranom asada. zasto? zasto kad u izvestaju ne pise njegovo ime?

pa upravo zato sto sve ukazuje na njega i sto bi samo na osnovu njega verovatno visio (u nezavisnom sudskom procesu)

 

ps. a sta cemo sa hlorom? sta cemo sa ubijanjem ljudi eksplozivnim buradima? sta cemo sa hiljadama nestalih u asadovim zatvorima? ima li IS i svi ostali (cisto da ne bude da potezem samo te dve stran u ovom beskrajnom ratu) kapaciteta da svojim zlom nadmasi asadovo?

Edited June 14, 2015 by Bane5

[Budja]

Klasika vec godinama.

Nema to veze sa racionalnim razmisljanjem i analizom politicke situacije.

 

To je prosto navijanje kao i na svim drugim topicima.

Zla Amerika naterala sirotog Asada da cini zlocine a stvorila je jos i IS dok su svi drugi igraci iskljucivo reaktivni na to prvo zlo.

Imali smo to jos i na topiku o Kosovu gde je bombardovanje isto tako predstavljeno kao uzrok ciscenja Albanaca od strane Srbije.

I u Ukrajini je politicka nestabilnost u Kijevu indukovana Sikorskim odjednom postala uzrok agresije Rusije, itd.

 

Bottom line je uvek isti - Milosevic, Asad, Gadafi, Sadam, Putin, iranske mule su uglavnom reaktivni na vece zlo sa zapada.

 

Bottom line: Sve je to isto. Amerikanci su reaktivni.

 

Kritikujuci jedan obrazac misljenja zapravo branis potpuno suprotni obrazac, stavljajuci Srbiju, Ukrajinu i Bliski Istok u isti kos.

[Аврам Гојић]

"Duboko smo uznemireni zbog politički motivisanih presuda koje su izrečene bivšem predsedniku Morsiju", rekao je portparol Bele kuće Džoš Ernest.

mrš bre u pičku materinu.

[akibono]

Saudijski zlikovci šejici otvoriše svoju konzervu crva, mislili da će bombardovanjem da utuku jemenske nevernike Hute kad ne lezi vraže ekipica u suknjama i papučama krenula preko granice... rasturiše im silne tenkove i nekoliko pograničnih baza... nisam vesti iz Jemena pratio par nedelja, pa sam sad tek video da se na terenu ozbiljno raspalila situacija...

 

http://youtu.be/Nqe_JIX_Bl4

Edited June 23, 2015 by akibono

[Gandalf]

From Deep State to Islamic State by Jean-Pierre Filiu

[jms_uk]

A court in Libya has sentenced Col Muammar Gaddafi's son, Saif al-Islam, and eight others to death over war crimes linked to the 2011 revolution.

They were on trial along with dozens of other close associates of the deposed leader, accused of suppressing protests during the uprising.

Saif al-Islam was not present in court and gave evidence via video link.

He is being held by a former rebel group from the town of Zintan that refuses to release him.

[Dr Arslanagić]

Pa zar da pogube doktora sa London School of Economics?

[Prospero]

Pa kad nije išao na Oxbridge 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmOvEwtDycs?t=125

Edited July 28, 2015 by Prospero

[Dr Arslanagić]

[urkozamanje]

@lebanon

 

Dobro, nisu arapi ali jesu b istok

[Indy]

Združeno dejstvo morona.

[Lord Protector]

BBC

Lebanon rubbish crisis: Thousands attend anti-government rally

 30 August 2015

Image captionThe protesters want the environment minister to resign

Thousands of people have taken part in a rally in the Lebanese capital Beirut in protest at a government they say is corrupt and ineffective.

Security was high amid fears the demonstrations could turn violent, as similar protests did last weekend.

Organisers of Saturday's mostly peaceful rally demanded the environment minister resign within 72 hours.

The government's failure to solve the crisis over the disposal of rubbish led to the 'You Stink' campaign.

They have been calling on the government to hold snap parliamentary elections, and also want the interior minister held to account for excessive force by police at last week's protests.

The protesters poured into a major square in central Beirut, waving Lebanese flags and shouting anti-government slogans.

Many wore t-shirts with the words "You Stink". Some were playing music and singing.

The rally was mostly peaceful although a small group of masked youths tried to break through barbed wire to reach the prime minister's office. They set fire to rubbish and pelted police officers with stones and plastic bottles.

Image captionThere was some violence but the protest was mostly peaceful

"We give the government 72 hours," one organiser, Rasha Halabi, told the crowd. "If our demands have not been met by Tuesday night, we will turn up the heat."

One young protester told AFP that he had come to protest "because the country has all become garbage".

Barricades and barbed wire were installed around government buildings as security was increased ahead of the rally.

Human rights organisation Amnesty International urged the security services to show restraint and called for an investigation into last week's violence.

Image captionRubbish has been piling up on the streets of BeirutImage captionPrevious protests saw police fire water spray and rubber bullets

Rubbish has been piling up on the streets of Beirut since Lebanon's largest landfill shut down last month with no ready alternative.

This led to the creation of the You Stink movement, which blames political paralysis and corruption for the failure to resolve the crisis.

The cabinet failed to reach agreement on Tuesday on a way forward, saying the fees quoted by private waste management companies were too great.

Lebanon has been without a president for more than a year, while members of parliament have extended their own terms until 2017 after failing to agree on a law on fresh elections.

The conflict in neighbouring Syria has also exacerbated political and sectarian divisions, and resulted in the arrival of 1.1 million refugees, putting a strain on the economy and public services.

 

 

Edited August 30, 2015 by slow

[barrcode]

a ja pre nedelju dana u Le Mondu čitam tekst o tom đubretu (odnosno par dana pre prostesta) i komentare lokalnih libanaca kako je "narod utučen, nema apsolutno nikakvu volju da se politički angažuje, kako vlast može da mu radi šta hoće, kako nema opozicije....".