akibono Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 ... a menjali su pravilnike, redefinisali pojam 'niskopodno', hteli da šalju šasije u Priboj pa onda dovlačili radnike ovamo, raspisali privatnicima tender za 400 'solo' autobusa.... i eto, debili polupismeni sa najboljim studentom ikada na čelu :ziga: Naravno da će na kraju svo to silovanje mozga opet biti neka velika "pobeda", i pored godinu-dve izgubljenih u međuvremenu uz ko zna koliko bačenih para Beograd: Umesto "mečki" gsp uzima MAN!GRADSKO saobraćajno preduzeće "Beograd" od ponedeljka je bogatije za još pet "Ikarbusovih" autobusa, do kraja meseca trebalo bi da stigne još pet, da bi isporukom poslednjih deset vozila u novembru bila kompletirana kupovina 30 vozila sa šasijom "mercedesa". A za narednu godinu planirana je nabavka novih niskopodnih autobusa, ali sa šasijom MAN.O ozbiljnoj nameri da poboljšaju kvalitet svojih usluga svedoči i direktor Gradskog saobraćajnog preduzeća, Željko Milković, koji već za sledeću sedmicu najavljuje raspisivanje tendera za kupovinu 20 novih niskopodnih autobusa....On je dodao da će novi autobusi biti sa šasijom MAN, a ne "mercedes", uz objašnjenje da su prikladniji za gradsku vožnju."Ikarbus" sa "Mercedesovom" šasijom nije potpuno niskopodan. Naime, na prva dvoja vrata jeste, ali su problem treća koja imaju četiri stepenika - kaže Milković. - Kao takav, ovaj autobus je dobar za prigradske linije, dok je za gradsku vožnju prijemčivija MAN šasija, jer su ti autobusi potpuno niskopodni. Link to comment
Downforce Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Nema dalje. Ali oni su stvarno kompletno nesposobni svi. edit: glavu dajem da ce i u tom novom tenderu zaboraviti da definisu da autobus mora biti crvene boje... cisto farbanja radi... Edited October 13, 2015 by Downforce Link to comment
Tresko Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Pazi kakvo je to govno od autobusa(bez obzira na hiljade autocadova, i prominentne kooperante i specifikacije), kada ni Vučićevi udjiguzi ne mogu da nadju upotrebu za iste. U suštini, oni su samo uradili jedino zašta su sposobni, tj. da uzmu nešto što je odlično i da od toga naprave govno. Od Mercedes Citaro-a koji je odličan gradski autobus, su napravili nekog frankenštajna i govno, samo da bi vodja mogao da na isto nalepi mercedesov znak. Link to comment
gospa buba Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) naravno da nema kraja. svi su apaolutno nesposobni za sve. a znash ti kolko ima svega Edited October 13, 2015 by gospa buba Link to comment
Prospero Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Ubaciće mečku ikarbusku u trocifrene linije, to zvuči logično. Link to comment
Malkmus Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Ikarbus je te autobuse napravio na šasiji modela Mercedes-Benz OC 500 LE. Kad sam pogledao po netu da li postoji takav sa troja vrata nisam nešto uspeo takvog da nađem. Svi su dvovratni - međumesni ili prigradski. Jesu li ta treća vrata naš uspešan patent, pitam se. Link to comment
Tresko Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Ikarbus je te autobuse napravio na šasiji modela Mercedes-Benz OC 500 LE. Kad sam pogledao po netu da li postoji takav sa troja vrata nisam nešto uspeo takvog da nađem. Svi su dvovratni - međumesni ili prigradski. Jesu li ta treća vrata naš uspešan patent, pitam se. Početna ideja Mercedesa je bila da se Ikarbusu daju šasije autobusa Mercedes Citaro, koji ima 3 vrata i niskopodan je. Medjutim, Ikarbus nije sposoban da napravi karoseriju koja bi bila takva, jer nijedna karoserija koju je u stanju da napravi Ikarbus nije takva. Kad su to ljudi iz Mercedesa ukapirali, digli su ruke od svega. Naravno, niko od poltrona to nije smeo da kaže vodji, pa se došlo do ovakvog govneta koje su napravili. Link to comment
akibono Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Ikarbus je te autobuse napravio na šasiji modela Mercedes-Benz OC 500 LE. Kad sam pogledao po netu da li postoji takav sa troja vrata nisam nešto uspeo takvog da nađem. Svi su dvovratni - međumesni ili prigradski. Jesu li ta treća vrata naš uspešan patent, pitam se. Pa to je taj "mozak"... posbeno zanimljivo je da su u Ikarbusu napravili i predali pre mesec dana i par autobusa na toj istoj mercedes šasiji onako kako bog zapoveda (tj. šasija) - za prevoznika u Lazarevcu - bez sečenja, produžavanja, budženja i krpljenja! http://www.autobusi.net/ekskluzivno-novi-ikarbus-mercedesi-za-lastru/ Link to comment
bigvlada Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Jednog lepog dana, kada se rešimo slobodnih radikala (nažalost, crni i zeleni čaj daju rezultate samo u ljudskom telu) i ako Ikarbus bude još postojao, partnerstvo ne bi trebalo praviti sa Mercedesom ili MAN-om već sa kompanijama poput Bombardijea koje mogu da ponude nešto novo gradskom prevozu. Tehnologija za električne autobuse: For e-buses, PRIMOVE offers a wireless charging system that is fast, easy to integrate and convenient to use. Together with the PRIMOVE high power battery, it turns planned stops into charging opportunities without requiring additional vehicles, interrupting service or affecting dwell times. Adding the reliable and high performance PRIMOVE propulsion system ensures a 100% smooth and quiet ride for passengers.The PRIMOVE system is a highly flexible solution that can be tailored to the specific needs of different municipalities and operators. During the initial planning stage, a precise energy flow simulation helps to design the best charging configuration for the desired bus network.The ideal positioning of wireless charging stations is defined at the most suitable stops along existing routes so that the fleet never has to change course or extend dwell times in order to recharge. This allows maximum efficiency, while keeping charging infrastructure to a minimum. Taksi: The PRIMOVE inductive charging system requires no cables or plugs, making the use of electric cars easy and convenient. The car simply drives over the charging pad on the ground. Once the car comes to a stop over the charging pad, the primary winding in the pad induces an electromagnetic field that is captured by the compact pick-up coil located on the underside of the car.Charging stops automatically when the car’s battery is fully charged. The driver can also interrupt the charging at any time. The system is perfectly suited for locations where the cars normally park such as private and company garages.The PRIMOVE wireless charging system for electric cars can be easily adjusted to different car platforms and classes - from smaller sports cars to larger SUVs. It is also scalable to be adapted to different power classes from 3.6 kW to 22 kW. Tramvaj bez trole (jedan od razloga zašto sam ja navijao za Alsom Citadis umesto novih španaca, mada su oni imali drugačije rešenje, treću šinu koja je pod naponom samo onda kada je tramvaj iznad nje): Thanks to PRIMOVE contactless charging, trams can now run without any need for unsightly poles and overhead cables. The energy source is moved underground and charges the electric vehicle via inductive power transfer.It now becomes possible to integrate light rail systems into urban areas where conventional catenary networks are prohibited or unwelcome – such as city centres, parks, gardens and protected heritage sites. The cityscape is left untouched, minimising visual pollution and improving the overall appeal of the city.Charging segments are installed at tram stops, subsequent metres and challenging sections. The combination of dynamic and static charging enables continuous operation and reduces infrastructure investments.Beyond dispensing with overhead infrastructure, the PRIMOVE system also offers a whole range of further advantages. The technology is simple to install in both new and existing lines as the components easily fit between the rails. Initial investment and maintenance costs are lowered, making the overall system highly competitive and efficient. The charging system could even be made compatible with road vehicles, enabling the same underground infrastructure to be used for recharging multiple modes of public transport. The PRIMOVE wireless charging solution comprises two sets of components – wayside components that are buried underground and onboard components that are fitted onto the vehicle frame. Both sets are designed to enable maximum structural integration, as well as for energy transfer at high power and efficiency.Charging segmentPrimary cable segments provide the actual power transfer to the vehicle and are installed just under the road surface.Vehicle detectionSenses when a PRIMOVE-equipped vehicle is above the segment and switches the segment on - segments otherwise remain inactive to comply with electromagnetic interference protection requirementsPick-upConverts the magnetic field from the primary winding into alternating currentOnboard sending deviceDetects cable segments and coordinates the on/off switchingInverterConvert the alternating current from the pick-up into direct current that powers and charges the vehiclePRIMOVE battery systemExtra light and efficient at 50 kWhPRIMOVE propulsion systemReliable Bombardier MITRAC 500 propulsion http://primove.bombardier.com/ Link to comment
Singer Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 des vlado šaljivdžijo stari!! dobra ti ova, valja skroz! :D Link to comment
garcia Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 prividjaju mi se bande na dresinama sa akumulatorima Link to comment
Pontijak Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) prividjaju mi se bande na dresinama sa akumulatorima samo ti daj ideje stetocinama pa kada te sacekaju nova gsp vozila, validiras se, stanes i pomeras sa ostalim putnicima one rucice nove, najmodernije dresine za javno gradski prevoz Edited October 14, 2015 by Pontijak Link to comment
pbg12345 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 pa sta ce sad da rade svi oni iz istocne evrope koji su narucili na hiljade i hiljade srpskih mercedesa? :o Link to comment
bigvlada Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 des vlado šaljivdžijo stari!! dobra ti ova, valja skroz! :D :) Lepo raspišeš tender za nova taksi vozila (recimo jedno 10000), koja će da koristi GSP podružnica Beogradski Taksi ili kako se već bude zvao, vozila moraju da budu kompatibilna sa ovakvim sistemom dopune strujom i moraju da budu sklapana u Srbiji. Beli Fiat 500L sa kliznim vratima bi mogao da bude jedan od učesnika. Pa se probere među postojećim kadrom ljudi koji poznaju grad i nisu naoružani. Prvo se postave podzemne instalacije na terminusima i stanicama najdužih linija (16,88,95) i najfrekventnijim taksi stajalištima (aerodrom, železnička i autobuska stanica) pa se mreža polako širi, u skladu sa mogućnostima. Link to comment
borris_ Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Taj sistem "cateneryless" je jako skup i uvodi se samo u strogom centru. U Bordeaux i u Nici, Alstomov sistem je instaliran samo u centru grada. Da vam ne pricam kakve su probleme iimali da ga instaliraju i da sve radi ali to je normalno sa novim sistemima. Problem Alstomovog sistema je sto puno zavisi od klimatskih uslova. Problem Bombardijevog sistema sto stanice ne smiju biti previse razmaknute. Link to comment
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