Budja Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Dobro, to je ocekivani korak u daljoj pasokizaciji sirize. Izostavice sa liste levu platformu, koja ce na izbore sama. Cipras ce da dobije mandat za... nesto sto niko ne zna. Malo levicarkosg narativa, malo ogovornosti, dosoljeno sa realizmom i prozivanjem bivsih vlasti. Poznato zvuci.
Dr Arslanagić Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) ND će imati naviše a pretpostavljam da će vladu praviti ND, PASOK i Potami. Edited August 20, 2015 by Dr Arslanagić
Frank Pembleton Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Zamislite sad psiholabuda. -Neeee ja sam prvi rekao da ce biti izbori!Neeeeeeee!
Lezilebovich Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 cipras redefinisao pojam izneverena očekivanja (mada, idećemo na izborima da li je stvarno tako)
Budja Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Dobro, to je ocekivani korak u daljoj pasokizaciji sirize. Izostavice sa liste levu platformu, koja ce na izbore sama. Cipras ce da dobije mandat za... nesto sto niko ne zna. Malo levicarkosg narativa, malo ogovornosti, dosoljeno sa realizmom i prozivanjem bivsih vlasti. Poznato zvuci. Tsipras is pitching himself in the centre ground between the left-wing elements in his own party who wanted Grexit, and mainstream opposition parties who signed up to previous bailout deals. U obracanju naciji.
vememah Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Videćemo koliko će Zoi i Lafazanis odneti glasova, pošto je Leva platforma nagovestila samostalan izlazak (logično, pošto bi se nakon svega malo sutra našli na Sirizinoj listi za izbore). Mislim da će u najgorem slučaju Ciprasu za pravljenje nove vlade biti dovoljan Potami, a ni apsolutna većina nije nedostižna. Edited August 20, 2015 by vememah
vememah Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Opozicija najavljuje da će otežati Ciprasu ostvarenje zamisli da izbori budu 20.9. Keep Talking Greece#Greece ND leader Meimarakis spoils Tsipras' elections plans. Says he will accept mandate to sekk to form gov't. It means 10-day delay in 1> https://twitter.com/keeptalkingGR/status/634434510566912000 Efi KoutsokostaND leader Meimarakis says he will take the mandate @atsipras has handed over and he will try to form a gvt #GreeceElections https://twitter.com/Efkouts/status/634433422212100096 Nick MalkoutzisNew Democracy's Meimarakis also casts doubt on Sep 20 as election date since ND & others will use 3 days they each get to form gov't #Greece https://twitter.com/NickMalkoutzis/status/634433470966665216 Nick Malkoutzis"We'll explore all avenues in effort to ensure elections are last option, not 1st as Tsipras wants," says New Democracy's Meimarakis #Greece https://twitter.com/NickMalkoutzis/status/634433921808252928 Ciprasovi hajlajti: The highlights of Tsipras’ address: — “A circle has closed; I have decided the resignation of the government”— “The popular mandate I received on Jan. 25 has reached its limits; you (voters) with your vote will decide if the agreement that we achieved will contain the guarantees to exit the memorandums”— “I assure you that I will not surrender the shield of the ideas of anyone, and I call on you to give together the difficult battle to resurrect our homeland…”— “I offer myself to your judgment, proud and calm with my conscience. We negotiated hard; we resisted pressure and blackmail. We reached, and this is the truth, our limits; the idea that an end to austerity is gaining ground, and we in Greece … played a leading role”— “The battle against corruption and vested interests has just begun. The battle against tax evasion, for a fair tax system; all of these things require a clear mandate, a strong government, stable and without veering course.” — “We did not achieve the agreement we hoped for. In this battle we made concessions. But with the situation we inherited, this agreement was the best we could achieve,” he said, reeling off what he called the benefits of the deal with creditors.— “The new loan agreement is not a colonial-style (deal) but is characterized by European law; and finally, for the first time and in a categorical manner, the way in which a reduction in the (external) debt was achieved.” http://en.protothema.gr/greece-snap-elections-called-by-pm-tsipras/ Edited August 20, 2015 by vememah
vememah Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Bivši predsednik Nove demokratije Samaras, kao i Micotakis jr. zalažu se za zajednički nastup sa Potamijem (čiji je lider to dosad odbijao s obrazloženjem da ne želi da se tako kompromituje) i Pasokom, što bi možda moglo da im donese bonus od onih 50 poslaničkih mesta ako bi njihova lista bila jača od Sirizine, ali su za to male šanse, jer ne mogu ni svoje da ubede. Meanwhile former party leader Antonis Samaras estimates that New Democracy along with the River and PASOK could form a coalition alliance in the upcoming elections, to ensure they receive the 50-seat bonus that would allow them to govern without further alliances. Although Kyriakos Mitsotakis welcomed the idea, many within New Democracy have outright rejected such a prospect, including the party’s provision leader. http://www.tovima.gr/en/article/?aid=730729
hazard Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Cipras ce da dobije mandat za... nesto sto niko ne zna. Malo levicarkosg narativa, malo ogovornosti, dosoljeno sa realizmom i prozivanjem bivsih vlasti. Poznato zvuci. Pa Cipras moze da izadje pred birace zapravo sa skroz koherentnom pricom: 1. Mi smo pokusali da uradimo ono za sta smo dobili mandat. To ste svi videli. Mi smo pokusali da ublazimo ili ukinemo mere stednje, ali, mi nismo trazili niti dobili mandat od biraca da izlazimo iz evrozone. 2. Borili smo se do kraja, ali ste videli kako smo bili tretirani od strane kreditora. Ni nasa izborna pobeda i jak izborni mandat, niti jako "ne" na referendumu nije uspelo da promeni misljenje trojke. Ponavljam, opet, na referendumu nismo ni trazili niti dobili mandat za izlazak iz evrozone, vec za dalje pregovore. 3. Medjutim, i pored sveg naseg truda, doterali smo bili uza zid i izmedju izbora da ili prihvatimo uslove kreditora, ili da izadjemo, prilicno nekontrolisano i haoticno, iz evrozone. Odlucili smo se za ovo prvo jer, pod jedan, smatramo da vecina Grka definitivno ne zeli izlaz iz evrozone, a drugo, zato sto smo zakljucili da bi to bilo gore po zemlju. Videli ste kako je izgledalo par nedelja kada su banke bile zatvorene. 4. Pokusali smo sta smo mogli sa stranim faktorom da uradimo. Nismo uspeli mnogo. Ipak, dobili smo javno priznanje da je grcki dug ipak neodrziv, i velike izglede da ce se restrukturirati u bliskoj buducnosti. Eksterna situacija je nasledjena i nismo uspeli da je promenimo, ona je sada datost. Zbog datuma kada smo dosli na vlast, bili smo primorani da se samo time bavimo. Cak su i kreditori insistirali na tome, govorili da su jednostrani interni potezi kraj mogucnosti dogovora. To je sto je, sto se toga tice. Mi sada moramo da reformisemo Grcku, da je promenimo, kako nam se ovako nesto nikada ne bi desilo. Da li zelite povratak na vlast ND i Pasoka, starih faca koje su nas i dovele do ove katastrofe? Koje su nas vodile kroz prve godine stednje, bez ikakvih izgleda za izlazak iz krize? Oni ne mogu da poprave stanje stvari, jer ne znaju...ne mogu da reformisu jer nije u njihovim licnim interesima. Samo mi to mozemo, i naravno samo cemo mi to raditi tako da pazimo na najugrozenije i najsiromasnije u drustvu, bla bla bla. Meni se cini da ovakva prica ima prodju bar kod relativne vecine grckih biraca, na kec.
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