Svet

[Budja]

Inace u drugim vestima.

 

Sa 10 sati na 14 sati uvecane dnevne restrikcije struje iako je banana predsednik obecao da ce sledece nedelje ici smanjivanje na 6 sati.

 

Ovo je raspored u mom kraju.

 

 

 

Predsenik se krije iza ministarke energije koja je u v.d. stanju nakon sto su prethdno ministar i direktor javnog preduzeca, nas EPS, podneli ostavke "iz privatnih razloga".

 

Ministarka je danas dala izjavu da je jadnom predsedniku najteze.

 

Sunce pici kao u avgustu, jos tri dana nece biti kise a posle ne zna se.

 

[duma]

5 hours ago, Budja said:

U tom smislu naravno da je samo odrzavanje samita na najvisem nivou u Rusiji uspeh jer signalizira da Rusija nije izolovana.

Ne priznaje se ništa dak Indija ne pristane da prilagođava svoju spoljnu politiku onom što kaže Kina.

Zna se kako pravi savezi funkcionišu. Jedan govori, a drugi slušaju.i izvršavaju. Ko ne sluša dobije po ušima. To je pravo partnerstvo. To su vrednosti.

Kod ovih bi Indija da bude samostalna. To je bruka i sramota.

[barba]

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U Gruziji ce izgleda biti sranja... 

 

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[zorglub]

Što, vesti samo glasanje spominju?

[barba]

6 minutes ago, zorglub said:

Što, vesti samo glasanje spominju?

 

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Opozicija ne priznaje izbore

 

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[vememah]

 

 

Zvanični rezultati koji je tamošnji RIK objavio na 71% prebrojanih biračkih mesta:

 

 

Link: https://results.cec.gov.ge/#/en-us/election_57/el/dashboard

 

Rezultati opozicionog exit polla:

 

 

Predistorija - samo jedna lokalna agencija je davala toliku prednost režimu. Za opozicione televizije ankete su radili Ameri i Englezi i naravno ni blizu nije bilo da režim ima preko 50%.

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The ruling party leads in the final pre-election polls but holds a majority in only one

Three days before the parliamentary elections in Georgia, three TV channels published the results of the latest sociological surveys conducted by three different companies: Edison Research, SAVANTA, and GORBI.

A study by Edison Research commissioned by the opposition channel “Formula”
The American company Edison Research, commissioned by the TV channel “Formula,” conducted a survey asking: “Who would you vote for if parliamentary elections were held tomorrow?”

The results are as follows:

Ruling party “Georgian Dream” – 34%
Opposition coalition “Unity” (which includes the UNM, led by Mikheil Saakashvili) – 18%
Opposition “Coalition for Change” – 14%
Former Prime Minister Giorgi Gakharia’s party “For Georgia” – 11%
Opposition coalition “Strong Georgia” – 10%
Other parties received less than 5% and would not pass the electoral threshold.

64% of respondents believe the country is heading in the wrong direction, while 36% think it is on the right track.

The survey was conducted through personal interviews with 1,200 randomly selected participants across Georgia from October 1 to 18.

The SAVANTA research, commissioned by the opposition TV channel “Mtavari”
The British company Savanta conducted a survey with the same question at the request of the TV company Mtavari Arkhi and the Media Freedom Fund.

Here are the results:

The ruling party, Georgian Dream, received 35%.
The opposition party, Coalition for Change, received 18%.
The opposition coalition, Unity (which includes the United National Movement and the party of Mikheil Saakashvili), received 16%.
The opposition coalition, Strong Georgia, received 9%.
The party of former Prime Minister Giorgi Gakharia, For Georgia, received 8%.
Other parties received less than 5% of the votes and therefore did not meet the threshold.
The survey was conducted from October 11 to 20 using face-to-face interviews. A total of 1,520 eligible voters were surveyed across the country.

The percentage of respondents who declined to participate, did not answer the questions, or did not complete the survey was 19%, meaning the response rate was 81%.

The GORBI study commissioned by the pro-government TV company Imedi

The results of the survey conducted by the International Center for Public Opinion and Business Research GORBI on behalf of the pro-government television company Imedi:

The ruling Georgian Dream party — 60.2 percent

The opposition coalition Unity (which includes the UNM, Mikheil Saakashvili’s party) — 15.4 percent

The opposition Coalition for Changes — nine percent

Other parties gained less than five percent of the votes, meaning they do not pass the threshold.

The survey was conducted from October 12 to 21 using personal interviews. 1,704 people were interviewed.

https://jam-news.net/latest-poll-results-before-elections-in-georgia-ruling-party-leads/ (osim poslednjeg pasusa o Gorbijevoj studiji gde su u engleskom tekstu napravili grešku kopi-pejstovanjem pretposlednjeg)

https://jam-news.net/ru/соцопросы-перед-выборами-в-грузии-про/ (poslednji pasus o Gorbijevoj studiji preveden s ruskog pomoću GT-a)

 

Ili ovako - predizborne ankete iz septembra i oktobra:

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Georgian_parliamentary_election#Opinion_polls

Edited October 27 by vememah

[vememah]

Malo predistorije: de fakto prvi čovek vladajuće partije, oligarh i najbogatiji čovek u Gruziji Bidzina Ivanišvili, pre izbora je uporedio opoziciju s tumorom i nacistima i najavio njenu zabranu.

 

 

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...drawing comparisons to historical precedents of banning political parties, including Nazi Germany. He emphasized the need for a constitutional majority in the upcoming election to "ban and remove" opposition parties.

Ivanishvili further argued that the ruling party had sufficient grounds to outlaw opposition movements, citing "documentation" he compared to that used during the Nuremberg trials. His remarks come days before the October 26 parliamentary elections where banning opposition is one of Georgian Dream’s key pledges.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 27 by vememah

[vememah]

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Local observers demand annulment of the result
A coalition of civil society groups set up to observe the 2024 election has accused the government of undertaking ‘a complex scheme of election fraud’ and demanded the annulment of the results.

WeVote includes several leading NGOs including Transparency International — Georgia, Georgia’s Reforms Associates (GRASS), the Civil Society Foundation, IDFI, and more. The group sent 2,000 observers to polling stations across the country. 

‘The observation process is still underway and we will continue this process […] As a result of the analysis of the environment in the pre-election period and the fraud schemes used on the election day, as well as the unprecedented impact on the will of the voters and incidents of violence, we believe that the preliminary results published by the Central Election Commission does not reflect the will of the citizens of Georgia’.

‘We will continue to demand the annulment of the election results’, they said.

 

Stranica na engleskom koja se redovno ažurira vestima o izborima (odakle je i ovo gore):
https://oc-media.org/live-updates-georgians-go-to-the-polls-in-battle-for-countrys-future/

Edited October 27 by vememah

[zorglub]

Koliko znam, EU ih je odyebala za status kandidata jer nisu želeli da se mešaju u ukrajinski sukob, ali takav stav ne bih nazivao pro-ruskim, posebno u fkn Gruziji 

[vememah]

Imaju status kandidata od kraja prošle godine, ali je proces pristupanja u međuvremenu zamrznut zbog autokratskog režima.

 

NIN je preneo Politikovu biografiju najmoćnijeg čoveka u državi:

 

Edited October 27 by vememah

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https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/25/business/iceland-shorter-working-week-economy/index.html

[zorglub]

1 hour ago, vememah said:

ali je proces pristupanja u međuvremenu zamrznut zbog autokratskog režima.

 

Ma važi 

[vememah]

Režim je pod američkim sankcijama, ma uopšte nije antizapadni.

 

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The move comes after widespread condemnation over the governing Georgian Dream party’s introduction of a new law that will brand Western-backed NGOs and media outlets as “foreign agents.” Critics and legal experts say the legislation mirrors rules used by Russia to crush dissent and shutter civil society groups. (...)
Washington has even imposed sanctions on leading Georgian Dream politicians, who it says are “complicit in undermining democracy in Georgia” and undermining its path to the EU. Brussels warned the so-called foreign agent law is incompatible with membership, after granting Georgia candidate status last December, despite warnings of backsliding on human rights and a failure to implement key reforms.

https://www.politico.eu/article/georgia-eu-accession-stopped-anti-west-pivot-russian-law-foreign-agent-bill/

 

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As Georgian citizens have voiced opposition to the law, we have seen clear indications of a campaign of intimidation and the use of violence to suppress peaceful dissent. Both the “national security law” and the repressive tactics used to quell legitimate dissent undermine Georgia’s democracy and the fundamental freedoms to which the Georgian people are entitled and run contrary to Georgia’s long-stated goal – reflected in its constitution — of Euro-Atlantic integration and strategic partnership with the United States.

https://www.state.gov/announcement-of-a-visa-restriction-policy-for-undermining-democracy-in-georgia-and-comprehensive-review-of-all-u-s-georgia-cooperation/

Edited October 27 by vememah

[Shan Jan]

Sreca pa mi nemamo authoritarian rule pa smo cvrsto na EU koloseku. Nista politika, samo objektivizam 

[zorglub]

30 minutes ago, vememah said:

Režim je pod američkim sankcijama, ma uopšte nije antizapadni.

 

Kakav je režim je od manjeg značaja u ovom slučaju, pregovori se valjda vode još od Sakašvilija (ili pre toga?), a ni zamrzavanje nije prvo ni poslednje - već su im stopirali status 2022. nakon što nisu osudili (ni podržali) rusku invaziju. Dok su istovremeno za status Ukrajine rekli sledeće:

 

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Macron later said that the possible granting of EU candidate status to Ukraine was a result of Russia’s invasion. He was speaking in an interview with CNN affiliate BFMTV Friday on board a train leaving Ukraine.

“Ukraine normally should not be a candidate,” he said following his visit to Kyiv, “We’re doing it because of the war and because we think it’s good."