dragance Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Janukovic je uvek bio Putinov covek, samo sto je znao u poslednje vreme da se prikrije.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
Prospero Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Prvo je bila najava carinskih barijera po automatizmu; onda su, 9. novembra Ukrajinci sami prestali da uzimaju gas od Gazproma, ovih dana je krenuo gas iz Slovačke u Ukrajinu, mada ne znam na šta će to da izađe.Ukrajina ima užasno lošu ekonomiju, veliki je odliv stanovništva u Rusiju, a nema šanse da bi otvaranje granica za EU robu učinilo bilo šta na kratki rok do ukokalo ono što od privrede još radi. Velika je zemlja, bile bi joj potrebne desetine milijardi pomoći koje EU niti ima niti bi bila voljna da ih da. Ceo projekat Istočnog partnerstva su odradili Litvanci i Poljaci, i to je de facto plan B u odnosu na propali Juščenkov zaokret ka Zapadu, a ceo projekat uopšte ne omogućava mic po mic prilagođavanje ekonomije tržišnim uslovima EU.Uopšte, celo ovo opredeljivanje im nije uopšte trebalo, nego navalili i jedni i drugi ko smrt na babu, a elita niti je iole jedinstvena, niti zna šta hoće, niti je populacija spremna za nove socijalne udare.Da nas ukrajinski predstavnik ne zajebava toliko oko pristupa STO-u rekao bih da mi je baš žao, ovako samo malko sažaljevam slučaj. Link to comment
Zaz_pi Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Rusija nije protiv ekonomskog povezivanja Ukrajine i EU. Rusi isto zele nesto slicno u buducnosti. Rusija pokusava da uradi ono sto je jos za vreme carevine hteo da uradi legendarni ministar ekonomije Vit kada je zapoceo gradnju Trans-Sibirske i Trans-Kaspijske zeleznice, spajanje istoka i zapada Evroazije preko Rusije i izbacivanje, tada, Britanaca, a sada Amerikanaca sto vise iz price. Zato sto bi u tom slucaju Rusija najvise profitirala ekonomski kao centralna oblast izmedju dva ogromna ekonomska dela sveta. Naravno, SAD zele ovo da sprece, kao sto su i Britanci pre jednog veka.Rusija ima odredjenih poltiickih pitanja koje zeli da resi sa Nemackom oko EU i Ukrajine, zato je i predlozila trilateralni sastanak EU(Nemacka), Rusija i Ukrajina, gde bi se ovo resilo, a zatim Ukrajina potpisala sporazum sa EU. Cak je Merkelova nesto slicno juce predlozila. To ce se tesko desiti zbog uticaja Vasingtona. Link to comment
Takeshi Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Right-Wing Provocation: Russian and German Populists MeetOver the weekend, a meeting of right-wing populists brought anti-immigrant and homophobes together in a jamboree of "family values." Some 500 protesters voiced their opposition to a speech by one of the women behind Russia's recent anti-gay law. Several speakers from Russia took part in the Leipzig conference, sparing no effort to promote President Vladimir Putin's family policies. Among them was lawmaker Yelena Mizulina, chair of the Duma Committee on Family, Women and Childrens' Affairs and co-author of the country's infamous law banning "homosexual propaganda....Mizulina's family policy wish list is a long one: Among the legislative initiatives she'd like to pursue are a tax on divorce, recommendations for married couples to have at least three children and a ban on emergency contraceptive pills. Expectations that SPD politician and former German central bank board member Thilo Sarrazin, author of the bestselling, anti-Muslim immigrant book "Germany Is Abolishing Itself" would cause a sensation were disappointed. Sarrazin was more occupied with himself and promoting his books. He went on to discuss "the Arabs," "the Chinese" or "the Turks" and his oft-expounded theories about the heredity of intelligence, deficient integration of Muslim immigrants and his view that immigration is "more of a burden than it is useful.""No immigrant should receive state aid during that person's first 10 years in Germany -- not even welfare aid. Nothing," he told the crowd. Link to comment
dragance Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Swiss voters have rejected a proposal to cap the salaries of top executives at 12 times that of a company’s lowest wage, heeding warnings from industry leaders that the measure could harm the country’s economy. The wealthy nation, which is home to some of the world’s biggest companies including food group Nestle and commodities giant Glencore Xstrata, voted 66% against imposing the limit, according to a projection from Swiss television. The so-called “1:12 initiative for fair pay,” was brought about by the youth wing of the Social Democrats (JUSO). The idea behind the proposal was that nobody should earn more in a month than others earn in a year. Verovatno ekonomski najgluplja ideja jos od 50 godina probe komunizma u SSSR-u i satelitima. Steta sto referendum nije uspeo. Bilo bi urnebesno gledati uticaj na Svajcarsku da je referendum uspeo i da je pocela implementacija. Zamislite haos dok kompanije koje vrede milijarde beze preko, jer ne mogu da plate svoje CEO vise od - otprilike 250,000 CHF. Link to comment
Budja Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Swiss voters have rejected a proposal to cap the salaries of top executives at 12 times that of a company’s lowest wage, heeding warnings from industry leaders that the measure could harm the country’s economy. The wealthy nation, which is home to some of the world’s biggest companies including food group Nestle and commodities giant Glencore Xstrata, voted 66% against imposing the limit, according to a projection from Swiss television. The so-called “1:12 initiative for fair pay,” was brought about by the youth wing of the Social Democrats (JUSO). The idea behind the proposal was that nobody should earn more in a month than others earn in a year.Verovatno ekonomski najgluplja ideja jos od 50 godina probe komunizma u SSSR-u i satelitima. Steta sto referendum nije uspeo. Bilo bi urnebesno gledati uticaj na Svajcarsku da je referendum uspeo i da je pocela implementacija. Zamislite haos dok kompanije koje vrede milijarde beze preko, jer ne mogu da plate svoje CEO vise od - otprilike 250,000 CHF.Sa druge strane, potvrdjuje se da u fer atmosferi, referendum jeste demokratsko sredstvo i da su gradjani sposobni sami da donesu normalne odluke.Drugim recima, nisu glasaci ovce kojima trebaju elite da probijaju put i donose "teske odluke" kako se u Srbiji, a boga mi i EU, veruje.Ponavljam, glavna pretpostavka: fer atmosfera. Edited November 25, 2013 by Budja Link to comment
Turnbull Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Buđo, ako ovaj referendum išta pokazuje, to je da je nacionalna demokratija farsa u uslovima globalnog tržišta. Glasači nisu doneli "normalnu", nego zapravo, jedinu moguću odluku u datim uslovima. T.j., da su doneli drugačiju, desilo bi se ono što je Draganče već opisao.Demokratija se svodi na aminovanje odluka koje je već donela nevidljiva ruka. Farsa. Edited November 26, 2013 by Syme Link to comment
Takeshi Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 botoksirani kgbovac celiva bogorodicu u drustvu pape levicara. Link to comment
dragance Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Dusu dalo za ppprobu! Link to comment
dragance Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Upravo sam saznao da je umro Lucien Neuwirth, za mnoge nepoznato ime, ali istinski heroj svog vremena. Lucien je sa 16 godina pristupio francuskom pokretu otpora, da bi posle rata poslao poslanik (de Gaulova desnica) i senator. 1967 godine je, u tada konzervativnoj Francuskoj, protiv volje svoje partije, progurao zakon o kontracepciji (pilula), koja je dovela do globalne "seksualne revolucije" i kraja patrijarhalnog sistema (iako kod nas jos delimicno opstaje).Edit: proguglajte čoveka da vidite koliko je znacajno to tada bilo i protiv kakvih vetrenjača se izborio. A tokom rata se borio kao lav i preživeo streljanje, pa opet nastavio.Slava mu.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited November 26, 2013 by dragance Link to comment
Takeshi Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Pope Francis calls unfettered capitalism 'tyranny' and urges rich to share wealthPope Francis has attacked unfettered capitalism as "a new tyranny", urging global leaders to fight poverty and growing inequality in the first major work he has authored alone as pontiff.The 84-page document, known as an apostolic exhortation, amounted to an official platform for his papacy, building on views he has aired in sermons and remarks since he became the first non-European pontiff in 1,300 years in March.In it, Francis went further than previous comments criticising the global economic system, attacking the "idolatry of money" and beseeching politicians to guarantee all citizens "dignified work, education and healthcare". Link to comment
Hella Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 urges rich to share wealthmrš, inkvizitoru. Link to comment
Miralem Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Sa druge strane, potvrdjuje se da u fer atmosferi, referendum jeste demokratsko sredstvo i da su gradjani sposobni sami da donesu normalne odluke.Drugim recima, nisu glasaci ovce kojima trebaju elite da probijaju put i donose "teske odluke" kako se u Srbiji, a boga mi i EU, veruje.Ponavljam, glavna pretpostavka: fer atmosfera.definicija fer atmosfere: to je kad budjina opcija pobedi. Link to comment
Budja Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Buđo, ako ovaj referendum išta pokazuje, to je da je nacionalna demokratija farsa u uslovima globalnog tržišta. Glasači nisu doneli "normalnu", nego zapravo, jedinu moguću odluku u datim uslovima. T.j., da su doneli drugačiju, desilo bi se ono što je Draganče već opisao.Demokratija se svodi na aminovanje odluka koje je već donela nevidljiva ruka. Farsa. Ne, doneli su normalnu odluku vagajuci posledice, izmedju kojih je i ova o brzoj selidbi kapitala.Tako globalno trziste nije smetnja demokratijii slobodi. To globalno trziste je smanjilo siromastvo i razvilo bitne igrace van SAD.Naprotiv, smenjta demokratiji su oni koji hrane globalne mastodontte podrzane novcem poreskih obveznika - vlade SAD i EU, ili one koje su zatvaranjem trzista napravile drugog najbogatijeg coveka na svetu (Meksiko i Karlos Slim).Dakle, nie stvar u nevidljivoj ruci kapital vec u sprezi drzave i korporacija. To nije isti proces kao globalizacija. Link to comment
Turnbull Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Pa da, a kad mi neko uperi pištolj u glavu i kaže "Pare ili život!", ja onda vagam posledice i donosim normalnu odluku da predam pare. Zato je to primer slobodne volje i samostalnog odlučivanja.Kad bismo se zajebavali.Kada bi država X, nebitno je da li je to Švajcarska ili ne, odlučila, kroz proces detaljne i ozbiljne demokratske deliberacije, i uz vrlo širok i razložan konsenzus , da smanji nejednakost između svojih građana - ne mora ograničenjem plata u odonosu 1:12, ali nečim sličnim - istog trenutka, kapital bi napustio zemlju. I gde je onda self-governement? Nema ga nigde. Dužnost demokratije u ovakvim uslovima je da aminuje nevidljivu ruku, ili da nestane. Link to comment
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