Roger Sanchez Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The Associated Press quotes unnamed law enforcement officials as saying the suspect is actually 20-year-old Adam Lanza, and not his older brother Ryan as has been reported.+ izgleda da je ubio ćaću, a ne brata, i to u Conn., ne u NJ. Link to comment
Anduril Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/14/what-we-know-so-far-about-connecticut-school-shooter-adam-lanza.html Link to comment
Indy Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 When his dead body was found in the school, he was dressed in all black and wearing body armor.Sličan lajtmotiv kao iz nekih ranijih masovki, kao i filma we need to talk about kevin. Link to comment
WTF Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 + izgleda da je ubio ćaću, a ne brata, i to u Conn., ne u NJ. Polako se sredjuju detalji:Brat (za koga se prvobitno verovalo da je izvrsio masakr) i cale su zivi i zdravi, inace zive zajedno u NJ i sad su na informativnom razgovoru sa policijom. Ovaj ludak je ziveo sa kevom koja je jedno vreme radila u toj skoli, ubio je u njihovoj kuci oruzjem koje je bilo registrovano u njeno ime i onda je otisao u osnovnu skolu (gde je prema nekim izvorima i sam nekad bio ucenik) i napravio masakr. Kako su ga pustili da udje u skolu sa 2 semi-auto pistolja, AR .223 i ko zna cime jos, to je tek misterija. Link to comment
paculla Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 jedno objasnje koje sam procitala za to kako je usao je da bio je u crnom, pa su mozda pomislili da je "member of clergy". oni valjda mogu da se usetaju u skolu. ne mogu da verujem da je mogao da se useta u skolu. ne sme u parkic da se udje ako nemas decu. sta ce jednoj uciteljici* u konektikatu dva pistolja i puska?* sad izgleda mozda nije bila ni uciteljica nego je ponekad radila kao volonter u skoli. svejedno. Link to comment
Prospero Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) može i ovde: Beaten and sodomized: European human rights court finds CIA guilty of torturePublished: 14 December, 2012, 18:18The European Court of Human Rights found the CIA guilty of torturing a terror suspect for the first time ever. A German citizen was illegally detained, tortured and sodomized by a CIA “rendition team’ after being mistaken for an al-Qaeda member.The Strasbourg-based court has unanimously ruled that German citizen Khalid el-Masri was tortured by a CIA ‘rendition team’.The court also found the state of Macedonia guilty of secretly imprisoning, abusing and torturing Khalid el-Masri, a German citizen of Lebanese origin, and ordered €60,000 in compensation to be paid to the former detainee. The Macedonian government denied any involvement in the kidnapping.James Goldston, executive director of the Open Society Justice Initiative, told the Guardian that the ruling of the Grand Chamber of ECtHR should become a wake-up call for the Obama administration and US courts. For the US Congress to continue avoiding serious scrutiny of CIA activities is going to be "simply unacceptable", Goldston said.Ben Emmerson, the UN special rapporteur on human rights and counter-terrorism, believes the ECtHR ruling is “a key milestone in the long struggle to secure accountability of public officials implicated in human rights violations committed by the Bush adminsitration CIA in its policy of secret detention, rendition and torture”.Emmerson suggested that the US government must issue an apology for its "central role in a web of systematic crimes and human rights violations by the Bush-era CIA” and pay voluntary compensation to Khalid el-Masri. In turn, Germany should seek the US officials involved in this case to be brought to trial.Masri’s unexpected journeyMacedonian police arrested Khalid el-Masri in December 2003. In January 2004 he was taken to a hotel in the airport of the capital Skopje, where for 23 days he was interrogated about alleged ties with terrorist organizations. The questioning was conducted in English despite the fact that el-Masri has only a basic knowledge of the language.Masri says he was refused any contacts with German diplomats and once his captors threatened to shoot him after he declared his intention to leave immediately.The court maintained that el-Masri was “severely beaten, sodomized, shackled and hooded, and subjected to total sensory deprivation” by the CIA rendition team.The court also ruled that the torture at Skopje airport had been carried out “in the presence of state officials of [Macedonia] and within its jurisdiction".Therefore, the ECtHR ruled “[the Macedonian] government was consequently responsible for those acts performed by foreign officials. It had failed to submit any arguments explaining or justifying the degree of force used or the necessity of the invasive and potentially debasing measures.”The court found out that the measures applied to the detainee were premeditated, “aiming to cause Mr Masri severe pain or suffering in order to obtain information.”“In the court's view, such treatment had amounted to torture, in violation of Article 3 [of the European human rights convention],” the sentence concluded.From Skopje airport el-Masri was taken to Afghanistan where he spent four months in a dirty and dark concrete cell hidden in a brick factory somewhere near the capital of Kabul. He was beaten and interrogated on a regular basis, his demands to get in touch with German diplomats were ignored.Once the Americans realized Khalid el-Masri was taken for someone else, he was taken to Albania, handcuffed and blindfolded, and later transferred to Germany.US Congress finds torture fruitlessThe milestone decision of the European court has come into spotlight together with the final approval on Thursday of a behemoth 6,000 page report on harsh interrogation techniques prepared by the US Senate's Select Committee on Intelligence.In a specially released written statement, the chairman of the Committee on Intelligence Senator Dianne Feinstein refused to go into details ,so the exact findings of the report remain classified.Still, Feinstein said the decisions allowing the CIA to create a network of secret prisons where enhanced interrogation techniques were used were “terrible mistakes.”“This report will settle the debate once and for all over whether our nation should ever employ coercive interrogation techniques,” Feinstein promised.It will probably take months or even years before any parts of the report see daylight, because the Committee will be waiting for comments from the CIA and the Obama administration, which both will be provided with a copy of the document, Feinstein said.Following that, another vote will have to be conducted on whether to release any part of the report at all. The CIA is expected to oppose the move, as it already claimed earlier the details of the interrogation program are classified and should be kept this way.The three-year study of some six million documents describing implementation of controversial interrogation practices, including beating, forced nudity, sleep and sensory deprivation, stress positions and waterboarding, has found out that harsh measures do not bring intelligence breakthroughs.The Democrats-dominated committee gave the green light to the report after a heated closed-door vote and strong resistance from the Republican members of the committee.Allegedly, the report maintained that the CIA’s enhanced interrogation techniques did not help to find Osama Bin Laden and sometimes were even counterproductive for America’s war with Al Qaeda. Edited December 15, 2012 by buffalo bill Link to comment
Аврам Гојић Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 otisao malo da citam komentare ispod vesti i zakljucujem da je srpska javnost vrlo zadovoljna masakrom male dece u USA. Link to comment
stoka Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) Amerika je svetska sila i na njenom čelu mora da bude čovek koji, ma kako mu bilo neprijatno, ne sme da pokazuje emocije kao Obama. Jer ako prvi čovek prve svetske sile pokazuje potresenost, šta onda da radi običan građanin?! Gde je onda oslonac uplašenom američkom građaninu kada njegov predsednik plače pred kamerama?!Setite se Buša mlađeg 11. septembra 2001. godine, ostao je čvrst. Doduše, to je verovatno bilo zato što nije shvatao šta se dešava oko njega, ali svejedno ... Edited December 15, 2012 by stoka Link to comment
Indy Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 otisao malo da citam komentare ispod vesti i zakljucujem da je srpska javnost vrlo zadovoljna masakrom male dece u USA. Link to comment
Dagmar Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Naslednik “Tetrapaka” otkrio kako mu je supruga preminula i zbog čega je dva meseca čuvao njeno telohttp://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/358181/Naslednik-Tetrapaka-otkrio-kako-mu-je-supruga-preminula-i-zbog-cega-je-dva-meseca-cuvao-njeno-telo Link to comment
Takeshi Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 ldp pobedio u japanu.nakon trogodisnjeg eksperimenta sa dpj, japanci se vracaju konzervativnoj partiji koja je vladala skoro neprekidno od sredine pedesetih do 2009. godine.The DPJ has struggled since coming to power in 2009. Two prime ministers came and went before Mr Noda as the party struggled to deliver amid the economic downturn and 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami.Mr Noda lost over his move to double sales tax, something he said was necessary to tackle Japan's massive debt. By contrast, Mr Abe has promised more public spending, looser monetary policy, and to allow nuclear energy a role to play in resource-poor Japan's future despite last year's nuclear disaster at Fukushima.Mr Abe has also called for a tough stance on a territorial row with China over islands in the East China Sea that both countries claimldp logo Link to comment
Gandalf Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 :0.6:Bassem Sabry باسم @Bassem_SabryBecause Egypt is fun, the state forgot to publish draft constitution in the official paper before referendum, potentially annulling the vote Link to comment
Roger Sanchez Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 :0.6:Bassem Sabry باسم @Bassem_SabryBecause Egypt is fun, the state forgot to publish draft constitution in the official paper before referendum, potentially annulling the vote Da je Morsijev dekret još na snazi, ovo bi bilo trivijalno popraviti, jednostavno bi proglasio sutra za 14., i riješen problem. Ali nije, avay. <_< Link to comment
Kampokei Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) Eno izgleda pao dogovor dve najvece katalonske nacionalisticke stranke o referendumu za nezavisnost 2014. Bice zanimljivo. Kako god, cini se da je Katalonija ozbiljno polarizovana po nekoliko osa, a ni sama Spanija ne stoji bolje. Edited December 18, 2012 by Kampokei Link to comment
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