Meazza Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Pa dobro, ne znam bas. Imaju i velike nacije tu maniju ponekad, ali ovo je pretuzno koliko smo mi... ajde necu da kazem kakvi. Quote Link to comment
Joe D Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Velike nacije kad padnu pod uticaj svojih deretica zapocnu globalni rat u kome pogine blizu sto miliona ljudi. Bolje je dok je to karakteristika nebitnih nacija. Quote Link to comment
Meazza Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, Joe D said: Velike nacije kad padnu pod uticaj svojih deretica zapocnu globalni rat u kome pogine blizu sto miliona ljudi. Bolje je dok je to karakteristika nebitnih nacija. Nije sporno. Gadno je u svakom slucaju, u slucaju tzv. "velikih" nacija je daleko opasnije, ali je kod malih i nebitnih utoliko jadnije. Quote Link to comment
hazard Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 22 hours ago, Meazza said: Ni nebitnije zemlje, ni vecih mitomana. Daleko od toga da smo neki izuzetak. Ima toga i kod Makedonaca, i Bugara, i Albanaca, i Slovenaca, i Madjara, samo da se zadrzimo na nasem neposrednom okruzenju. Quote Link to comment
Meazza Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 51 minutes ago, hazard said: Daleko od toga da smo neki izuzetak. Ima toga i kod Makedonaca, i Bugara, i Albanaca, i Slovenaca, i Madjara, samo da se zadrzimo na nasem neposrednom okruzenju. Daj mi, eto, primer za Slovence. Quote Link to comment
hazard Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Meazza said: Daj mi, eto, primer za Slovence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetic_theory Quote The Venetic theory (Slovene: venetska teorija) is an autochthonist theory of the origin of the Slovenes that denies the Slavic settlement of the Eastern Alps in the 6th century, claiming that proto-Slovenes (also regarded as the Veneti people by the proponents of this theory) have inhabited the region since ancient times. Although it has been rejected by scholars,[1][2][3] it has been an influential alternative explanation of the Slovenian ethnogenesis. During the 1980s and 1990s, it gained wide attention in Slovenia and the former Yugoslavia. A version of this theory states that most of Central Europe and portions of today's northern Turkey were originally inhabited by a single people - the Veneti - a people that were subsequently dispersed by several invasion from the North in the form of Celtic and Germanic migrations and by the push northwards of the Roman Empire. According to this variant, the Armorican Veneti, the Adriatic Veneti, the Vistula Veneti as well as portion of the Illyrians and the Veneti of northern Turkey were all related people who spoke the same or similar language. The theory also counts among the Veneti several peoples of North Spain, Northern coastal France as well as portions of Denmark, Wales and of Ireland. In this version, most of the northern Slavs as well as the Slovenes and some Croats are the last remnant the original European Veneti. The Venetic theory created a great controversy in the Slovenian and Yugoslav public in the late 1980s. Several of the most prominent Slovenian historians, such as Bogo Grafenauer and Peter Štih, entered into open polemics with the creators of the theory. On the other hand, many prominent public figures publicly supported the claims advanced by the Venetic theory, among them the designer Oskar Kogoj, authors Zorko Simčič and Lucijan Vuga, and politician Zmago Jelinčič Plemeniti. In the 1990s, the theory gained institutional support of the World Slovenian Congress, publishing much of the literature advocating the theory and organizing international symposiums. The theory has also gained support in some nationalist circles. However, the theory has been challenged by certain writers,[4]:145 and it has been rejected by both mainstream linguists[1][2] and historians.[5] http://sloveneti.tripod.com/veg/e/Ven/slovieni_rusia_e.html Edited June 14, 2019 by hazard Quote Link to comment
Meazza Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Pa ovo nije nista u odnosu na dereticevsko ludilo. Ovi nasi idu sve do jebene Kine i nalaze Srbindu u vedama. Quote Link to comment
hazard Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Pa postoje gradacije (pogledaj ovaj drugi link, svi Rusi su Slovenci, a i na wikiju imas Slovence od Irske do Turske), i kod srpske mitomanije imas umerenu struju (Srbi autohtoni na Balkanu, nisu dosli u 6. veku) preko one srednje (svi Sloveni su potomci Srba) do tih Kina Indija ludjenja. Nisam sad bas rad da kopam sve primerke slovenacke mitomanije, znam da sam ranije vidjao svasta ludo. I to je stvar gradacije, Slovenci koji do '92. nisu imali nikad samostalnu drzavu svoju, eto oni ce se zadovoljiti samo idejom da su nekada vladali celom Evropom, dok je kod Srba ipak lestvica malo vise postavljena, pa se mora ubaciti i cela Azija u pricu Quote Link to comment
hazard Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Inace i kod Grka ima ovakve mitomanije, verovali ili ne...nije dovoljna anticka grcka civilizacija, i presudan uticaj na razvoj covecanstva kao takvog, pa Vizantija...ne, mora Grci svi i svuda. Citao sam lika koji dokazivao da su prvi Rimljani zapravo bili Grci, stari Rim je bio isprva grcki polis pa su ga kasnije latinizovali okolni seljaci Latini. Dakle rimsko carstvo je grcko carstvo. Nije dovoljno to sto su se Rimljani divili grckoj civilizaciji i otvoreno je imitirali bez pardona i bez skrivanja ko im je uzor, moraju biti pravi, etnicki Grci, Heleni Quote Link to comment
ToniAdams Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Jbg, koliko ljudi znate koji u to veruju? Ja jednog jedinog i taj je predmet šegacenja kad pričamo o ovim stvarima. U stvari još jednog, al on je bio novinar novosti. I njegova žena, to je troje. Quote Link to comment
adam Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 ja imam jednog rodjaka koji zna da bulazni u tom pravcu i naravno da ga niko ne shvata ozbiljno i svi se zajebavaju na njegov racun. ti pacijenti koji krenu srbin pa ameba nisu opasni sami po sebi - em ih je malo, em zaista sluze za zajebanciju - ali daju doprinos generalnoj nacionalistickoj klimi i samim tim odrzanju ovog naseg nakaradnog sistema tako sto realni nacionalizam/sovinizam u predjenju s njima izgleda mekse i bezopasnije nego sto zaista jeste. pa ce mnogi veselnik koji gleda pink i cita zutu stampu doci do mudrog zakljucka da su sovinisti ustvari dobronamerni benigni rodoljubi kad se porede s ovim ludacima. da ne bude zabune - ne smatram ja da su oni sami po sebi opasni nego da u nasem kontekstu nisu ni tako nebitni kao sto bi se na prvi pogled moglo pomisliti. naravno, velike su sanse da i ja baljezgam i analiziram u sitna crevca jer je ovde vec danima hladno, mracno i kisa pa nemam nista mudrije za raditi nego da mracim i trazim dlaku u jajetu. Quote Link to comment
ToniAdams Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Ma meni su oni rođena braća ravnozemljana Quote Link to comment
ObiW Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 15.6.2019. at 4:54, ToniAdams said: Jbg, koliko ljudi znate koji u to veruju? Ja jednog jedinog i taj je predmet šegacenja kad pričamo o ovim stvarima. U stvari još jednog, al on je bio novinar novosti. I njegova žena, to je troje. Jesi li u Srbiji u vreme zimskih slava? Zadji malo po slavama u unutrašnjosti, upoznaćeš ih. Quote Link to comment
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