Sirius Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) Ovo prakticno (i donekle izvuceno iz contexta) znaci: Fuck the Geneva Convention!Pratio sam GOP suceljavanje na sajtu CBSa po pitanju spoljne politike, posto je celokupna rasprava mogla samo tako da se slusa i gleda. To dovoljno govori koliko birace u SAD bas briga za spoljnu politiku, sto je jako problematicno. Elem, zanemeo sam na stavove vecine kandidata. Jedan od tih stavova je bio da ne treba postovati Zenevsku konvenciju, drugi je bio da treba muciti ljude jer se oni bore protiv SAD.I, niko u SAD nije smatrao takve stavove problematicnim, barem ja u mainstreamu nisam primetio, ali su svi primetili da Cain nije mogao da prica o 9-9-9 i da se Rick setio da nije EPA.edit: nije EPA Edited November 15, 2011 by Sirius Link to comment
pacey defender Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Ovo prakticno (i donekle izvuceno iz contexta) znaci: Fuck the Geneva Convention!Za potrebe unutarnje polemike (unutarnje u smislu theUSofA), mnogo je znacajnije to da je ovakav stav direktno u suprotnosti sa Ustavom. Ron Paul je uostalom to vrlo lepo objasnio Bachmannovoj u jednoj debati; to da li je neko "engaged in war against the United States" moze da odredi samo i iskljucivo sud, pred kojim svako ima civil liberties. Link to comment
Anduril Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) Za potrebe unutarnje polemike (unutarnje u smislu theUSofA), mnogo je znacajnije to da je ovakav stav direktno u suprotnosti sa Ustavom. Ron Paul je uostalom to vrlo lepo objasnio Bachmannovoj u jednoj debati; to da li je neko "engaged in war against the United States" moze da odredi samo i iskljucivo sud, pred kojim svako ima civil liberties.Nekako ova epizoda samo potvrdjuje da u SAD kampanja lici na mob rule a vreme izmedju kampanja je ionako special interests rule. Na ustav se malo ko vise i obazire iako je to to sto je SAD nacinilo prvom silom sveta u toliko domena a odstupanje od toga se placa.Ovo i generalno odslikava realnost da demokratiji niposto ne treba davati toliki znacaj i moc da moze tako lako da gazi osnovna prava pojedinaca pretvarajuci se sve vise u autoritarizam. Edited November 16, 2011 by Anduril Link to comment
Budja Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Pratio sam GOP suceljavanje na sajtu CBSa po pitanju spoljne politike, posto je celokupna rasprava mogla samo tako da se slusa i gleda. To dovoljno govori koliko birace u SAD bas briga za spoljnu politiku, sto je jako problematicno. Elem, zanemeo sam na stavove vecine kandidata. Jedan od tih stavova je bio da ne treba postovati Zenevsku konvenciju, drugi je bio da treba muciti ljude jer se oni bore protiv SAD.I, niko u SAD nije smatrao takve stavove problematicnim, barem ja u mainstreamu nisam primetio, ali su svi primetili da Cain nije mogao da prica o 9-9-9 i da se Rick setio da nije EPA.edit: nije EPAJezivo.Jos komentari na realclearpolitics kazu da je Pol dokazao da je ekstremista tako sto se protivi waterboarding-u.Inace, Njut je sada popularan... Dok ne krene da se eksploatise ne samo njegova reklama sa Pelosijevom, vec i konsultantske usluge za Freddie Fannie, vredne 300.000 dolara i to sve u jeku buma 2006. Intervju Kejna oko Libije je jos gori od Perijeve zaboravnosti. Link to comment
mandingo Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) Newt je kvalitet™ koji traje. Mislim da je i samog Romnija nadmasio u flip - flopovanju™. Tih 300K je navodno dobio "for his services as a historian, in which capacity he allegedly told them their business model was insane." Mada neki tvrde da ih je dobio za ovo. Sasvim je normalno da niko od GOP kandidata, osim ginekologa™ - nece osuditi mucenje. Posebno u trenutku kad se i americki gradjani ubijaju po predsednickoj preporuci. Kakav sud, kakvi dokazi, kakva prava... Edited November 16, 2011 by mandingo Link to comment
Roger Sanchez Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Ma sve sjeda na svoje mjesto. Mićo dobiva, Awlaki je dezintegriran, Obama dobio potporui SEIU.. Link to comment
Gandalf Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) u zestokoj konkurenciji, Santorum je apsolutni sampion ove debate... :0.6: Rick Santorum said, "Africa was a country on the brink." Ron Paul smirked. Herman Cain nodded in agreement. Edited November 23, 2011 by Gandalf Link to comment
badenac Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Dobar spot.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2rMnov4Ae8&feature=related Link to comment
Gandalf Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Defence funding bill allows American citizens to be arrested as terrorists on home soil and held indefinitely without trialBarack Obama has abandoned a commitment to veto a new security law that allows the military to indefinitely detain without trial American terrorism suspects arrested on US soil who could then be shipped to Guantánamo Bay.Human rights groups accused the president of deserting his principles and disregarding the long-established principle that the military is not used in domestic policing....The law, contained in the defence authorisation bill which funds the US military, effectively extends the battlefield in the "war on terror" to the US and applies the established principle that combatants in any war are subject to military detention.The legislation's supporters in Congress say it simply codifies existing practice, such as the indefinite detention of alleged terrorists at Guantánamo Bay. But the law's critics describe it as a draconian piece of legislation that extends the reach of detention without trial to include US citizens arrested in their own country. Link to comment
Indy Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Siriuse, čiji je ovo approval/disapproval, ne piše? Obamin? Link to comment
WTF Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Naravno da je Obamin. Congress bi dao kolektivno levo jaje za da ima ovakve approval brojke™. Link to comment
Roger Sanchez Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Whoopsy Daisy! (AP) WASHINGTON — Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has failed to qualify for Virginia's March 6 Republican primary, a development that complicates his bid to win the GOP presidential nomination. "After verification, RPV has determined that Newt Gingrich did not submit required 10K signatures and has not qualified for the VA primary," the Republican Party of Virginia announced early Saturday on its Twitter website. Texas Gov. Rick Perry also fell short of the 10,000 signatures of registered voters required for a candidate's name to be on the primary ballot, but former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Texas Rep. Ron Paul will be on the ballot. Establishment se i dalje svrstava iza Miće, a kao jedini crazy hoooplasider definitivno nam je ostao samo naš i vaš Ron. Link to comment
DarkAttraktor Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Uh, ako je Mica Mormon establismentov konj [a nesto nisam ukacio dosad da jeste] - bojim da su se oni u potpunosti rastavili od realnosti :( Nema sansone da Mica Mormon dobije GOP nominaciju, jer GOP voteri su preveliki bigoti da bi dopustili tako nesto. Bila skoro neka anketa u kojoj su se 30% GOP supportera koji su se izjasnili kao 'umereno konzervativni' - da ne bi ni-u-kom scenariju glasali za Micu iskljucivo zbog njegove vere. Link to comment
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