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1 hour ago, mlatko said:

 

Ko će da plati kartu za ovog jednog što ga vraćaju u Tuvalu? Mada ima i jedan za Vanuatu, mogu veći deo puta da dele troškove

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Dobar Trudeau. Nadam se da će iskoordinirati sa ostalima i udariti ih gde najviše boli. 

 

Kao što rekoh u kampanji - ceo taj detinjasti internet politički diskurs gde je najvažnije to own the libs sad se preneo i na real politiku. Jedini način da se to zlo zauzda je da sebične Amerikance opauči po džepu. To jednostavno mora da se dogodi, samo da je pameti i jedinstvenosti kod drugih država.

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Lider trenutno vodeće kanadske partije po anketama, opozicionih konzervativaca:

 

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We share the longest undefended border and fought alongside Americans in two world wars, Korea and Afghanistan, where 158 of our brave men and women died helping the U.S. avenge the 9/11 attacks. There is no justification whatsoever for this treatment.      

The Liberals must put aside their partisan interests and recall Parliament now to pass a Canada First Plan that will:   

1. Retaliate with dollar-for-dollar tariffs carefully aimed at maximizing impact on American companies while minimizing impact on Canadian consumers. That means targeting U.S. products that we can make ourselves, buy elsewhere or do without. For example, we must retaliate against American steel and aluminium, as Canadians can make those vital products at home. 

2. Put all the tariff revenues into help for affected workers and businesses; Government should not keep a dime of the new revenue.   

3. Pass a massive emergency Bring It Home Tax Cut to bolster the economy, stop inflation and save and create jobs. Canada needs a massive tax cut on work, investment, energy, homebuilding and making stuff at home. The Liberal carbon tax and capital gains tax hikes must be the first on the chopping block.    

4. Immediately scrap the Liberal anti-resource law C-69 and greenlight LNG plans, pipelines, mines, factories, and port expansions to overseas markets.    

5. Bring in truly free trade within Canada by knocking down interprovincial barriers to help replace lost north-south trade with east-west trade and to make us self-reliant.  

6. Rebuild our military and take back control of our borders to regain the confidence of our partners, assert our sovereignty, protect our people and put Canada First.     

We will protect our economy, defend our sovereignty, bring home production and paycheques and never back down. We will put Canada First—now and always.

 

Verovatno budući lider Trudoove stranke:

 

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Reakcija meksičke predsednice:

 

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“We categorically reject the White House's slander against the Mexican government of having alliances with criminal organizations, as well as any intention of intervention in our territory.

If such an alliance exists anywhere, it is in the United States arms manufacturers that sell high-powered weapons to these criminal groups, as demonstrated by the United States Department of Justice itself in January of this year.

In four months, our government has seized more than 40 tons of drugs, including 20 million doses of fentanyl. It has also arrested more than ten thousand people linked to these groups.

If the United States government and its agencies wanted to address the serious consumption of fentanyl in their country, they could, for example, combat the sale of narcotics on the streets of their main cities, which they do not do, and the money laundering generated by this illegal activity that has done so much harm to their population.

They could also start a massive campaign to prevent the consumption of these drugs and take care of their young people, as we have done in Mexico. Drug consumption and distribution is in their country and that is a public health problem that they have not addressed. In addition, the synthetic opioid epidemic in the United States has its origin in the indiscriminate prescription of drugs of this type, authorized by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), as demonstrated by the lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company.

Mexico does not want confrontation. We start from collaboration between neighboring countries. Mexico not only does not want fentanyl to reach the United States, but anywhere. Therefore, if the United States wants to combat criminal groups that traffic drugs and generate violence, we must work together in an integrated manner, but always under the principles of shared responsibility, mutual trust, collaboration and, above all, respect for sovereignty, which is not negotiable. Coordination, yes; subordination, no.

To this end, I propose to President Trump that we establish a working group with our best public health and security teams.

Problems are not resolved by imposing tariffs, but by talking and dialoguing, as we did in recent weeks with your State Department to address the phenomenon of migration; in our case, with respect for human rights.

The graph that President Trump has been posting on social media about the decline in migration was created by my team, which has been in constant communication with his.

I instruct the Secretary of Economy to implement Plan B that we have been working on, which includes tariff and non-tariff measures in defense of Mexico's interests.

Nothing by force; everything by reason and right.”

 

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Jedna stvar mi nije jasna, bacih sad pogled na kanadski izvoz. Osim automobila i valjda aviona, najveći deo izvoza su nafta, ugalj, gvožđe, bakar, aluminijum, žitarice, poljoprivredno đubrivo...?? Sve napredni proizvodi u pičku materinu.

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18 minutes ago, Venom said:

Jedna stvar mi nije jasna, bacih sad pogled na kanadski izvoz. Osim automobila i valjda aviona, najveći deo izvoza su nafta, ugalj, gvožđe, bakar, aluminijum, žitarice, poljoprivredno đubrivo...?? Sve napredni proizvodi u pičku materinu.

 

Ne znam dal se zajebavaš il si ozbiljan. Napredni proizvodi? Ne mora da bude napredno, nekada je bejzik dovoljan. Kanada je recimo najveći izvoznik u usa potasha (rude potasium chlorida), đubriva koje koristi 90% poljoprivrednih domaćinstva u usa -najviše agroindustrija (da iskoristim rts floskule). Sama usa uspe da nadomesti samo 10-15% iz domaćih izvora i to je to. Malo li je na ovu skupoću da dodaješ 25% bruto povećanje na proizvodnju koju ne možeš da nadomestiš iz lokalnih izvora osim da se povećanje ne ogleda u neto ceni u prodavnicama.

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16 minutes ago, Baldrick S. said:

 

Ne znam dal se zajebavaš il si ozbiljan. Napredni proizvodi? Ne mora da bude napredno, nekada je bejzik dovoljan. Kanada je recimo najveći izvoznik u usa potasha (rude potasium chlorida), đubriva koje koristi 90% poljoprivrednih domaćinstva u usa -najviše agroindustrija (da iskoristim rts floskule). Sama usa uspe da nadomesti samo 10-15% iz domaćih izvora i to je to. Malo li je na ovu skupoću da dodaješ 25% bruto povećanje na proizvodnju koju ne možeš da nadomestiš iz lokalnih izvora osim da se povećanje ne ogleda u neto ceni u prodavnicama.

 

Pa to i jeste poenta. Ne mogu da nadomeste iz lokalnih izvora, znači moraju da uvoze. Da je nešto napredno pa da kažu, ok biće skuplje ali imamo drugi rezon da uvozno bude skuplje i da onda napravimo fabriku i proizvodimo domaće (nezavisnost od globalnih problema kao što se desilo za vreme covida npr). I pošto se radi o nafti, rudama i mineralima uglavnom, Kanada to obrni okreni može da proda i nekom drugom. Pucanj u sopstvenu nogu.

 

Ne želim da pametujem, ali potassium je na srpskom kalijum (K) isto kao što je sodium natrijum (Na). 

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Potaša je potaša, vazda se kod nas to tako zvalo.

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Potaša iliti potash je neka od soli kalija, za poljoprivredu je to sad uglavnom kalijev nitrat (KNO3)

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26 minutes ago, Venom said:

Ali ne i potasium chlorid

 

Potash nije isključivo potassium chloride, već kalijumsko đubrivo koje u sebi ima njegova jedinjenja u različitom odnosu.

 

Sam hlorid se ni u engleskom ne zove samo potash, već muriate of potash.

 

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Potash refers to a group of minerals and chemicals that contain potassium (chemical symbol K), a vital nutrient for plants and a key component in fertilizers.

It is produced primarily as potassium chloride (KCl), also known as muriate of potash (MOP). Because of variations in potassium content among deposits, potash is often measured and reported in terms of potassium oxide (K2O) equivalence for consistency.

https://natural-resources.canada.ca/minerals-mining/mining-data-statistics-and-analysis/minerals-metals-facts/potash-facts/20521

 

Zbrka oko značenja termina potash se lepo vidi u ovoj terminološkoj bazi gde ga neki prevode kao hidroksid, neki kao karbonat, a neki neodređeno kao kalijumova so.

 

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http://prevodjenje.mei.gov.rs/evronim/index.php?jezik=srpl

 

Poenta je u tome da je u pitanju đubrivo na bazi kalijuma promenljivog odnosa sastojaka u zavisnosti od toga gde i kako se pravi.

 

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Kalijumska đubriva
Sva K-đubriva (potaša) imaju dobru rastvorljivosti u vodi. Često se, pored kalijuma, u njima nalaze i drugi hranljivi elementi, pre svih magnezijum.

https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalijumska_đubriva

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21 minutes ago, Venom said:

 

Pa to i jeste poenta. Ne mogu da nadomeste iz lokalnih izvora, znači moraju da uvoze. Da je nešto napredno pa da kažu, ok biće skuplje ali imamo drugi rezon da uvozno bude skuplje i da onda napravimo fabriku i proizvodimo domaće (nezavisnost od globalnih problema kao što se desilo za vreme covida npr). I pošto se radi o nafti, rudama i mineralima uglavnom, Kanada to obrni okreni može da proda i nekom drugom. Pucanj u sopstvenu nogu.

 

Kanada bi mogla to da prodaje nekom drugom da se za Trudoovog mandata nije posvadjala bukvalno sa svima osim SAD i EU. Sankcionisemo Rusiju zbog Ukrajine (opravdano), s Kinom smo se popickali oko hapsenja CEO Huawei (na US poternicu, da bi nakon izrucenja tamo bila momentalno oslobodjena), sa Indijom oko Sika separatista, a evo sada i sa SAD. Jedino da trazimo hitan prijem u EU a i onda bi nas jebao manjak trgovacke mornarice - skoro potpuna zavisnost o tudjim transportnim kapacitetima.

Jos od 1930-tih kanadska privreda je bazdarena za saradnju sa americkom, trgovina se vecinom odvija zeleznicom i unutrasnjim plovnim putevima (Velika Jezera). Takodje, proizvodnja sa obe strane granice velikim delom zavisi od sirovina i poluproizvoda koji dolaze sa druge strane. Jeste, SAD zavise vise od kanadskih sirovina i ovo je zaista pucanj u sopstvenu nogu - kostace ih sve ovo mnogo vise nego sto su mislili (ako su mislili dalje od obicnog bullying da se narcis osveti Trudou sto ga zene vise vole i da kompenzuje za svoju malu cunu) i Kanada moze lakse da nadomesti proizvode koje uvozi iz SAD nege sto SAD mogu da nadomeste kanadske sirovine i energente ali ovo ce pre svega znaciti masovna zatvaranja fabrika i otpustanja radnika u Kanadi. Jer nama 80% industrijskog outputa ide preko juzne granice.

 

 


Inace, evo i naseg odgovora - za sada:

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/02/01/trudeau-announces-25-per-cent-retailiatory-tariffs-on-u-s-goods-starting-tuesday/

 

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Canada will impose 25 per cent immediate retaliatory tariffs on American goods worth $30 billion starting Tuesday in the wake of U.S. President Donald Trump’s move to slap Canada with similar devastating duties.

 

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said an additional $125 billion in duties on American products will follow in 21 days, allowing Canadian consumers and supply chains to find alternatives.

 

Trudeau’s announcement comes just hours after Trump slapped Canada with 25 per cent tariffs on all goods and 10 per cent tariffs on oil, natural gas and electricity, also scheduled to take effect on Tuesday.

 

Trudeau elected to go ahead with retaliatory tariffs even though Trump’s order includes a mechanism to escalate the rates if Canada retaliates against the U.S.

 

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Aman, Zlurad je napisao potash i u zagradi potasium chlorid. Potasium je kalijum, to je sve, potash nisam pominjao niti me interesuje. Napisao sam to jer sam se i sam zajeb'o par puta ranije, isto kao i za sodium. Uopšte, totalno nebitno za diskusiju.

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