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Tramparo,zlato moje hearthihi

22 hours ago, radisa said:

Severni plovni put koji ce postati dostupniji globalnim otopljavanjem plus moguce da ispod onog leda ima ruda pa racunaju da ce kopati...

Kao kad pokusavaju da se dokopjau ruda u astoroidu koji leti ka zemlji u Don't look up, tako je ovo drugo glupo, jer ako i budu mogli da kopaju, verovatno ce pola planete biti poplavljeno, pa ce kopanje biti poslednja stvar ba svetu koja ce prezivelima biti u pameti...

misliš da se najgluplji od odveć glupih trampova - donald jr - ne bi time bavio dok pliva?

hmmmm

Feeling Dumb Jim Carrey GIF

30 minutes ago, Eleniko said:

misliš da se najgluplji od odveć glupih trampova - donald jr - ne bi time bavio dok pliva?

hmmmm

Feeling Dumb Jim Carrey GIF

Pa u Don't look up, sin predsednice, glup kao tocilo, a gura se svugde, a alav za madalju...

Paralele se same nameću...

Ono što me brine je kako se film, koji je (jednim delom) parodija na gramzivost USA elite (a drugim delom parodija na sve ostalo što okružuje USA politiku), pretvra u naš život i kako se taj film završava... :(

šta znam, jasno da se planeta i civilizacija jako ubrzavaju ali sa druge strane i loše posledice trampizma tako da želim da verujem da će 100 i kusur godina najveće demokratije na planeti (!) ipak regulisati stanje za 4 godine. ako ne sada onda neće nikada. ovo sada deluje kao srbija 2012, terali smo tadića a uterali sami sebi qrčinu.

17 hours ago, vememah said:

NBC News asked about a possible scenario in which Vice President JD Vance would run for office and then pass the role to Trump [elected as a vicepresident]. Trump responded that “that’s one” method.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-third-term-white-house-methods-rcna198752

Naravno, ova metoda ne postoji, jer 12 amandman:

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Doduše, ako do 2028 vertikala sudova sve do vrhovnog više neće sudovati prema ustavu nego prema Tramparinom hatišerifu, a drugačije presude se jednostavno više neće provoditi, sve ovo je nebitno.

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22 minutes ago, Eleniko said:

šta znam, jasno da se planeta i civilizacija jako ubrzavaju ali sa druge strane i loše posledice trampizma tako da želim da verujem da će 100 i kusur godina najveće demokratije na planeti (!) ipak regulisati stanje za 4 godine. ako ne sada onda neće nikada. ovo sada deluje kao srbija 2012, terali smo tadića a uterali sami sebi qrčinu.

Ja nisam uopšte siguran daće se vratiti u normalu... Čovek kida veze prema decenijskim saveznicima, prema Britaniji/Kanadi možemo reći i stoletnim saveznikom...

To se ne može brzo vratiti, sve da se posle DT vrtati najbolji lik koji može u WH... A neće se najbolji vratiti, siguran sam...

Ovo ide poprilično nizbrdo, ja bih do kraja mandata bio srećan da se ne zarati protiv Kine/EU, i da se ne napravi savez sa Rusijom... I da sledeći izbori u USA budu pošteni, pa američki narod uradi, uradi...

Tužilaštvo već radi po sistemu telefon

Ja uopste nisam siguran da ce u USA u skorije vreme biti predsednickih izbora. Tramp ce vladati dok ne krepa.

3 hours ago, radisa said:

Ono što me brine je kako se film, koji je (jednim delom) parodija na gramzivost USA elite (a drugim delom parodija na sve ostalo što okružuje USA politiku), pretvra u naš život i kako se taj film završava... :(

Film uopšte nije parodija i sam naziv najbolje odslikava ovu post-truth eru, gde istina više nikog ne zanima, stari mediji su fake news, a bitan je samo vajb, marketing, kulost i owning the libs/drugu stranu. Nije prošlo ni par godina od izlaska tog filma, pa da ti ne treba ni tih 15% imaginacije da zamisliš sve to kao realnu situaciju u životu/politici USA i sveta.

2 hours ago, radisa said:

Ja nisam uopšte siguran daće se vratiti u normalu... Čovek kida veze prema decenijskim saveznicima, prema Britaniji/Kanadi možemo reći i stoletnim saveznikom...

To se ne može brzo vratiti, sve da se posle DT vrtati najbolji lik koji može u WH... A neće se najbolji vratiti, siguran sam...

Ovo ide poprilično nizbrdo, ja bih do kraja mandata bio srećan da se ne zarati protiv Kine/EU, i da se ne napravi savez sa Rusijom... I da sledeći izbori u USA budu pošteni, pa američki narod uradi, uradi...

Neće zaratiti sa Kinom i EU, ali stara meta desničarskog dela USA establišmenta je Iran i tu treba tražiti potencijalno veliko sranje u narednih par godina.

The winning is unstoppable

3 hours ago, Eleniko said:

šta znam, jasno da se planeta i civilizacija jako ubrzavaju ali sa druge strane i loše posledice trampizma tako da želim da verujem da će 100 i kusur godina najveće demokratije na planeti (!) ipak regulisati stanje za 4 godine. ako ne sada onda neće nikada. ovo sada deluje kao srbija 2012, terali smo tadića a uterali sami sebi qrčinu.

Možda je malo nesuvislo porediti, ali mene oni trenutno podsećaju na SNS u fazi iz 2016/17. Živimo svoj san, kidamo, ne može nam niko ništa… biće veselja kad dođu i sadašnju raspad SNS fazu. Ako dotle ne započnu neki rat, tada će sigurno.

edit: kad već poredimo, mene Hesget podseća na Voolina. Ne fizički, nego zbog kombinacije tupavog pogleda i duhova u praznoj tintari.

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TRADE WAR

Brussels will respond without "red lines" to Trump's tariffs on European products.

The European Commission is preparing symmetrical measures with trade tariffs but does not rule out other options, such as closing the EU market to certain US goods or services.

MARÍA R. SAHUQUILLO MANUEL V. GÓMEZ

Brussels - 31 MAR 2025 - 05:40 CEST

The European Union is sharpening its trade weapons in response to "Liberation Day" on April 2nd. The day on which US President Donald Trump has promised to impose what he calls "reciprocal tariffs"—which are hardly that and could affect all goods arriving in the US—against a string of countries. If he follows through, the new measure will escalate the trade war to unimaginable consequences. The European Commission, which oversees trade for the bloc of 27 countries and 450 million citizens, is preparing its response to the escalation against what has been one of its closest allies. "There are no red lines in the European catalogue of retaliation," warns a senior EU source.

This means that, in addition to a trade response in the form of tariffs on US products, which would be added to those planned to counter the 25% levies Washington already imposed earlier this month on aluminum and steel, Brussels is considering using its entire arsenal, which also includes the so-called anti-coercion instrument, an economic security weapon that would allow the European market to be closed to certain goods or services, and even prevent US companies from bidding for public contracts or participating in projects financed by the EU budget.

The trade relationship between the two sides of the Atlantic is one of the most intense in the world. According to the US administration's own figures, imports and exports of goods total $975 billion (€900 billion), with a balance in favor of the EU of $235.571 billion. Until now, the Union's responses have focused exclusively on the trade relationship with the United States. This was the case in 2018, with Trump's protectionist measures during his first term, and it remains the same with the current proposals.

But if the United States now imposes the massive tariffs it has announced for April 2, hitting this side of the trade balance—that of US products—has limitations and, furthermore, impacts the EU. Therefore, there are those who are considering targeting services trade (digital, financial, intellectual property, etc.), an area where there are no tariffs and where Europe has a deficit, exporting far fewer services than the other way around. In 2024, the services balance was positive for the US by $75.617 billion.

Hitting this segment of international trade would require the EU to resort to a legal tool it has not used until now: the anti-coercion instrument. Its approval was recent, coming during the previous term, and was due to the lessons learned during the first Trump administration and also the threat posed by China's rise. For now, this option has not been discussed in EU Council meetings on trade, according to sources familiar with these debates, but it is on the table and has strong supporters within the EU executive branch, who maintain that it can be "modulated" based on Washington's measures.

The anti-coercion instrument—for some, the ultimate bazooka—is one of the tools available, beyond the pure trade response. There are also other diplomatic measures that the EU is already practicing, according to EU sources, such as reaching out to other trading partners and the accelerated push for new trade agreements— such as Mercosur —and the revision of old ones. There's more: some argue that the idea of imposing a boost to technology companies, which has been shelved due to negotiations within the OECD, should be revived.

But there is great reluctance in some sectors of the EU executive and capitals to go beyond a symmetrical response in the form of tariffs. In fact, fear of a major trade war and its consequences has led several countries, such as France, Italy, and Ireland, to ask the European Commission to play its cards right and thoroughly review the catalog of US goods to be taxed. This first wave of tariffs, in response to those on aluminum and steel—which had actually been compiled from a 2018 and 2021 list in retaliation for those imposed by Trump during his first term—worth some $26 billion was due to take effect this week and included everything from bourbon to Levi's clothing and Harley-Davidson motorcycles.

Risk of cracks in the unity

But Brussels has postponed its implementation not only to give more time to negotiate with Washington but also with the member states and the most affected sectors. Trump announced his response to the tariffs imposed by Europe and assured that he would impose a 200% tax on European spirits and wine. And this has alarmed Paris, Rome, and Dublin, who fear for their wines and whiskey . This initial disengagement by several member states is worrying Brussels, where they fear that the partners will begin to go their own way to ensure that their most powerful industrial sectors are not affected. "If Trump manages to break unity, the EU is lost," concludes a senior EU source.

The European Commission has assured that it will not hesitate. "We are prepared to safeguard our economic interests and, if necessary, we will respond firmly, proportionately, robustly, well-calibrated, and timely to any unfair and counterproductive measures taken by the United States," an EU spokesperson said Thursday, after Trump signed new 25% tariffs on cars (and parts) arriving in the US.

The EU maintains it will continue to try to negotiate with Trump and his team until the end, and has offered some concessions, such as lowering its tariffs on industrial goods, boosting some imports, and reaching agreements to increase the flow of US liquefied natural gas to Europe.

But so far, no rapprochement has been fruitful. On Tuesday, Trade Commissioner Maros Sefcovic and President Ursula von der Leyen's powerful chief of staff, Björn Seibert, met in Washington with US Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick, US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer, and Kevin Hassett, director of the National Economic Council, in a last-ditch attempt to prevent an all-out transatlantic trade war. The Europeans left the meeting feeling positive, according to sources close to the negotiations. However, then the US auto tariffs materialized , and the European team had to endure dismissive comments—"freeloaders" or "pathetic"—from the US president's inner circle about Europe in a Signal chat uncovered by a journalist from The Atlantic .

Those involved in negotiations with Trump's team in Europe and in countries like Canada in recent months emphasize that their negotiators actually have very little room for maneuver and that it is Trump himself—with his erratic behavior—who makes the final decision, regardless of what has been previously agreed upon. Brussels believes the US is determined to impose more tariffs on the EU—around 20%, according to estimates from various sources—and that it will only open its hand to negotiate once those tariffs are in place. The US president has repeatedly stated that the EU "has behaved badly" toward the United States and has even gone so far as to suggest that it was created to harass Washington—although he used a less diplomatic word.

Ahead of the big day, Brussels has accelerated the debate on its retaliation and is working tirelessly on catalogs of US products to be taxed, risk analysis, and damage control. However, the moment of truth may come later, after the announcement. The EU Council is scheduled to address trade relations with the US and China on April 7 at an extraordinary meeting of ministers and trade officials convened in Luxembourg.

https://elpais.com/internacional/2025-03-31/bruselas-respondera-sin-lineas-rojas-a-los-aranceles-de-trump-a-los-productos-europeos.html?event_log=go (prevod: Google translate)

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