USA izbori 2024 - prognoze & play by play

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@Roger Sanchez

Sve si u pravu na žalost burazere oz predziđa kršćanstva...1/1

[black mirror]

14 hours ago, braca said:

 

Ne živim u USA. Već sam nekoliko puta objašnjavao da se veoma zanimam za njihove izbore zato što će se odraziti na ceo svet.

 

jedino ako verujes da ce da pobedi stein ili west

 

 

btw lepo da ovako reagujes na komicare, stikere i zastave kao najavu na dolazeci fasizam. mogu da zamislim kako bi reagovao kada bi video rasnu supremaciju i fasizam na delu

[svashtabezneshto]

i bezos se oglasio 

 

The hard truth: Americans don’t trust the news media

A note from our owner.

 

Jeff Bezos is the owner of The Washington Post.

In the annual public surveys about trust and reputation, journalists and the media have regularly fallen near the very bottom, often just above Congress. But in this year’s Gallup poll, we have managed to fall below Congress. Our profession is now the least trusted of all. Something we are doing is clearly not working.

 

Let me give an analogy. Voting machines must meet two requirements. They must count the vote accurately, and people must believe they count the vote accurately. The second requirement is distinct from and just as important as the first.

Likewise with newspapers. We must be accurate, and we must be believed to be accurate. It’s a bitter pill to swallow, but we are failing on the second requirement. Most people believe the media is biased. Anyone who doesn’t see this is paying scant attention to reality, and those who fight reality lose. Reality is an undefeated champion. It would be easy to blame others for our long and continuing fall in credibility (and, therefore, decline in impact), but a victim mentality will not help. Complaining is not a strategy. We must work harder to control what we can control to increase our credibility.

Presidential endorsements do nothing to tip the scales of an election. No undecided voters in Pennsylvania are going to say, “I’m going with Newspaper A’s endorsement.” None. What presidential endorsements actually do is create a perception of bias. A perception of non-independence. Ending them is a principled decision, and it’s the right one. Eugene Meyer, publisher of The Washington Post from 1933 to 1946, thought the same, and he was right. By itself, declining to endorse presidential candidates is not enough to move us very far up the trust scale, but it’s a meaningful step in the right direction. I wish we had made the change earlier than we did, in a moment further from the election and the emotions around it. That was inadequate planning, and not some intentional strategy.

I would also like to be clear that no quid pro quo of any kind is at work here. Neither campaign nor candidate was consulted or informed at any level or in any way about this decision. It was made entirely internally. Dave Limp, the chief executive of one of my companies, Blue Origin, met with former president Donald Trump on the day of our announcement. I sighed when I found out, because I knew it would provide ammunition to those who would like to frame this as anything other than a principled decision. But the fact is, I didn’t know about the meeting beforehand. Even Limp didn’t know about it in advance; the meeting was scheduled quickly that morning. There is no connection between it and our decision on presidential endorsements, and any suggestion otherwise is false.

When it comes to the appearance of conflict, I am not an ideal owner of The Post. Every day, somewhere, some Amazon executive or Blue Origin executive or someone from the other philanthropies and companies I own or invest in is meeting with government officials. I once wrote that The Post is a “complexifier” for me. It is, but it turns out I’m also a complexifier for The Post.

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You can see my wealth and business interests as a bulwark against intimidation, or you can see them as a web of conflicting interests. Only my own principles can tip the balance from one to the other. I assure you that my views here are, in fact, principled, and I believe my track record as owner of The Post since 2013 backs this up. You are of course free to make your own determination, but I challenge you to find one instance in those 11 years where I have prevailed upon anyone at The Post in favor of my own interests. It hasn’t happened.

Lack of credibility isn’t unique to The Post. Our brethren newspapers have the same issue. And it’s a problem not only for media, but also for the nation. Many people are turning to off-the-cuff podcasts, inaccurate social media posts and other unverified news sources, which can quickly spread misinformation and deepen divisions. The Washington Post and the New York Times win prizes, but increasingly we talk only to a certain elite. More and more, we talk to ourselves. (It wasn’t always this way — in the 1990s we achieved 80 percent household penetration in the D.C. metro area.)

While I do not and will not push my personal interest, I will also not allow this paper to stay on autopilot and fade into irrelevance — overtaken by unresearched podcasts and social media barbs — not without a fight. It’s too important. The stakes are too high. Now more than ever the world needs a credible, trusted, independent voice, and where better for that voice to originate than the capital city of the most important country in the world? To win this fight, we will have to exercise new muscles. Some changes will be a return to the past, and some will be new inventions. Criticism will be part and parcel of anything new, of course. This is the way of the world. None of this will be easy, but it will be worth it. I am so grateful to be part of this endeavor. Many of the finest journalists you’ll find anywhere work at The Washington Post, and they work painstakingly every day to get to the truth. They deserve to be believed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/28/jeff-bezos-washington-post-trust/

[Roger Sanchez]

Ovaj 2step posvećujem viniju

 

 

[dragance]

Olako se zaboravio Muslim travel ban, vidim.

[vememah]

5 hours ago, svashtabezneshto said:

i bezos se oglasio 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:27 by vememah

[vememah]

 

 

 

 

[dragance]

Kakvo djubre. Usrao se kad je skapirao sta mu je nehotice izletelo iz usta u programu uzivo.

[copkillah]

 

joj, možda Bajden ipak nije trebalo da odustaje

[Peter Fan]

6 hours ago, vememah said:

 

 

Bezos je potpuno u pravu glede novinske profesije u Americi. 

 

Svaka cast ovima koji su iz principa dali otkaze, ali slobodni su osnovati svoj vlastiti eco-chamber i krenuti u pravcu nerelavantnosti, kao i citirani NPR. I to kazem kao neko ko je doskora bio ono sto moja lokalna stanica zove "high fidelity member".

 

Naravno, to ne znaci da Bezosu nisu bile davane "sugestije" iz Trumpovog kampa ili pak da treba za istog glasati.

[Mel]

Svakako sramotan izbor u Americi, a strahotan u svetu, da se bira izmedju osvedocenih genocidasa, i lika koji bi to pod jos jacim gasom. Jadni smo kao civilizacija.

[theanswer]

4 minutes ago, Peter Fan said:

Bezos je potpuno u pravu glede novinske profesije u Americi. 

 

Svaka cast ovima koji su iz principa dali otkaze, ali slobodni su osnovati svoj vlastiti eco-chamber i krenuti u pravcu nerelavantnosti, kao i citirani NPR. I to kazem kao neko ko je doskora bio ono sto moja lokalna stanica zove "high fidelity member".

 

Naravno, to ne znaci da Bezosu nisu bile davane "sugestije" iz Trumpovog kampa ili pak da treba za istog glasati.

Ovaj deo sa WP dobro pokazuje gde je američka nacija trenutno. Podeljena u 2 echo chambera. Meni je fascinantno da ima 200k ljudi koji otkažu pretplatu zbog toga što news organizacija koja bi u principu trebala biti neutralna ne endorsuje jednog kandidata. Znači oni ne plaćaju novine da bi se informisali nego da bi čitali ono što žele da pročitaju. Isto tako, daješ otkaz kao novinar jer želiš da se tvoje mišljenje čuje. Kakav izvrnut pogled na svet, novinar si da bi se čula različita mišljenja i izveštavao o vestima a ne da bi pisao opinion tekstove i davao tvoj bogoudodni sud o nečemu. Zato postaneš član stranke i kandiduješ se na izborima. 

[Mel]

4 minutes ago, theanswer said:

Ovaj deo sa WP dobro pokazuje gde je američka nacija trenutno. Podeljena u 2 echo chambera. Meni je fascinantno da ima 200k ljudi koji otkažu pretplatu zbog toga što news organizacija koja bi u principu trebala biti neutralna ne endorsuje jednog kandidata. Znači oni ne plaćaju novine da bi se informisali nego da bi čitali ono što žele da pročitaju. Isto tako, daješ otkaz kao novinar jer želiš da se tvoje mišljenje čuje. Kakav izvrnut pogled na svet, novinar si da bi se čula različita mišljenja i izveštavao o vestima a ne da bi pisao opinion tekstove i davao tvoj bogoudodni sud o nečemu. Zato postaneš član stranke i kandiduješ se na izborima. 

 

Pitanje je. Sve novinske kuce su profilisane. Kao trebalo bi da cinjenice iznose neutralno i tacno, ali novine i clanci su neki procenat informacija a ostalo je interpretacija.

Zato i ne citaju svi isto...

[theanswer]

Elem, još 7 dana. Očekujem da će nacionalni pollovi ostati između nerešeno i Heris +3 a NYT i CNN su već rekli da su izbacili poslednje nacionalne. 

 

Ostaju swing states, tu čekamo NYT/Siena poslednje i gomilu drugih koji će da izađu. Tramp je ove nedelje dodao 2 zaustavljanja u Virdžiniji i Nju Meksiku, ili zna nešto što mi ne znamo ili se sprda i troluje. 

 

Early vote je dobar za Trampa na Floridi (ukazuje na veću razliku u odnosu na pollove) kao i u Nevadi. Republikanci imaju bolje rezultate trenutno i u AZ, NC i PA u odnosu na one pre 4 godine ali to opet nije preterano bitno jer to bila covid godina. 

 

Najbolji put za Heris i dalje je kroz midwest i PA. To joj donosi 270. Nema vremena realno da nešto promeni trku u poslednjih 7 dana pogotovo kada je ogroman ljudi već glasao. Preko 3 miliona već i u NC i u GA. Oko 50% glasova u NV je već poslato. 

[Moonwalker]

22 minutes ago, Peter Fan said:

Naravno, to ne znaci da Bezosu nisu bile davane "sugestije" iz Trumpovog kampa ili pak da treba za istog glasati.

Racunaju li se u krizu profesije ona dva majmuna iz WP, Tilerson i onaj drugi sedi sa cvikerima, zaboravih mu ime? Pretpostavljam da su njih dvojica ostala.

Edited yesterday at 13:26 by Moonwalker