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4 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Mehdi je debil a Stein je u pravu - Putin jeste ratni zločinac ali to nije na predsedničkom kandidatu da javno kaže ako se nada mirovnim pregovorima. (Sa Netanjahuom te prepreke nema, dovoljno bi bilo zavrnuti mu slavinu.)

 

 

:laugh:

 

Jbt, daj bar neke standarde za kvalitet postavi. Ovo je ispod svakog nivoa. Ovi tvoji drugari preko bare bar zaradjuju neke pare od piskaranja tih gluposti. 

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2 hours ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Dva klovna se otimaju za volan iako oboje planiraju da ga zakucaju u betonski zid sa napisom CLIMATE CHANGE. 

Prije će se zakucati u demografski zid nego u to. Još brže ako Tramp pobijedi.

2 hours ago, Weenie Pooh said:

bolja, ljepša & starija predstava

pa da, postavit će se fašistička predstava, kakvu smo već vidjeli, samo trajnijeg karaktera

2 hours ago, Weenie Pooh said:

U svakom slučaju naravno da bednici glasaju - u manjim procentima nego elita™, ali ne drastično manjim. (Pew kaže da od onih sa prihodom ispod 40k na izbore izađe 54%, dok od onih koji privređuju preko 100k izađe 68%.)

prevedi to u apsolutne brojeve. KOLIKO ima jednih a koliko drugih

 

3 hours ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Šta si ti umislio da si, sa kojom se zlatnom kašikom u dupetu rodio da tako trapavo pokušavaš da argumentuješ demokratski pristup po kom ima smisla sirotinju prepustiti fašističkom tigru™, obraćati se isključivo plemenitoj "srednjoj klasi" malih privrednika i akademskih strajvera?

Demokratska stranka nije izgubila glasove sirotinje. Oni su joj uvelike ostali vjerni, pogotovo crna populacija. Izgubila je glasove srednje bijele muške klase malih privrednika i akademskih strajvera. Izgubila je glasove nekadašnjih meksikanskih imigranata u dolini Rio Grande, koji bi sad čim su se malo ovajdili američkog sna dizali rampu ljudima kakvi su oni sami bili u 80ima.

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Malo o političkoj ekomomiji nejednakosti:

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Views on this differ substantially by party. About four-in-ten Republicans and those who lean toward the Republican Party (41%) say there is too much inequality, compared with roughly eight-in-ten Democrats and Democratic leaners (78%). Instead, Republicans (43%) are much more likely than Democrats (7%) to say there is about the right amount of economic inequality in the country these days.

There are also differences by income tier within each party. Lower-income Republicans are more likely than higher-income Republicans to say there’s too much inequality in the country today (48% vs. 34%). In turn, higher-income Republicans are more likely than those with lower incomes to say there is the right amount of inequality (54% vs. 28%).

Among Democrats, majorities in all income groups say there is too much economic inequality. But higher-income Democrats are more likely to express concern over this issue: 93% of upper-income Democrats say there’s too much economic inequality in the country today, compared with 84% of middle-income Democrats and 65% of lower-income Democrats.

Naravno, po viniju moramo navijati da još jednom na vlast dođe the party of Reagan, with a sprinkling of white male supremacy fascism on top.

Umjesto zaključka samo ovo:

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About one-in-ten lower income Republicans (14%) say the system needs to be completely rebuilt in order to address inequality.

Još malo tax cuts tax cuts Murdoch trickle down Sunday church expel migrants no welfare for ni**ers, i evo blagostanja!

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Ma ima još bolje:

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Americans are divided when it comes to whether poor people have it easy or hard these days. Half of Americans say poor people have hard lives because government benefits don’t go far enough to help them live decently and a similar share (47%) say poor people today have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything in return.19

Democrats and Republicans hold diametrically opposing opinions on this issue. About three-quarters of Democrats (72%) say that poor people today have hard lives. The same share of Republicans say that poor people today have it easy.

 

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1 hour ago, Ivo Petović said:

Jbt, daj bar neke standarde za kvalitet postavi. Ovo je ispod svakog nivoa. Ovi tvoji drugari preko bare bar zaradjuju neke pare od piskaranja tih gluposti. 

 

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1 hour ago, Roger Sanchez said:

Demokratska stranka nije izgubila glasove sirotinje. Oni su joj uvelike ostali vjerni, pogotovo crna populacija. Izgubila je glasove srednje bijele muške klase malih privrednika i akademskih strajvera.

 

Prvi bold - citation needed; evo ti samo par izvora koji tvrde potpuno suprotno, recimo Axios, Atlantic, Politico.

 

Drugi bold - neverovatno si uporan sa tom apsurdnom fetišizacijom rasnih manjina. Crnci i latinosi predstavljaju cca 10% biračkog tela, a i među njima se kruni tradicionalna (D) prednost; nedavno si tvrdio da je apsolutno nemoguće da 20-30% crnaca glasa za GOP, a kad sam ti ostavio link koji kaže da ih već imaju 18%, pravio si se gluv.

 

Treći bold - to nije nikakva klasa, fetišisto, a ako i hoćeš da izdvojiš kao nekakvu grupaciju tzv. PMC, upravo oni su core demokratskih glasača. Upravo ti za koje tvrdiš da su izgubljeni, dok su im bednici "ostali vjerni".

 

Zabijaš glavu u pesak za sve pare, brate Rogere.

 

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Sa gornjeg linka, koga mrzi da klikne:


 

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Nine of the top 10 wealthiest congressional districts are represented by Democrats, while Republicans now represent most of the poorer half of the country, according to median income data provided by Rep. Marcy Kaptur's (D-Ohio) office.

 

 

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Evo ti tvoj Atlantik ravno natrag u bulju

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The fact that so many House Republicans feel safe advancing these proposals in districts with such extensive economic need testifies to the power of what I’ve called “the class inversion” in American politics: the growing tendency of voters to divide between the parties based on cultural attitudes, rather than class interests.

 

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Low-income Democratic seats tend to be in urban centers with large nonwhite populations. In more than three-fourths of the Democratic seats with a median income below the national level, and in virtually all of the Democratic districts with more uninsured people than average, the minority share of the population is also higher than the national average.

Some low-income Republican districts also have large minority populations, particularly in Texas and Florida, where the GOP has made inroads into culturally conservative Latino communities. But mostly the low-income GOP seats are centered on working-class white areas, many of them outside metropolitan areas.

Pritom pričamo o ljudima koji su zapravo BLIZU medijana, dakle ne o nekakvoj sirotinji nego bijeloj muškoj srednjoj klasi nižih prihoda, koje samo ukidanje welfera crncima ali ne njima, i istjerivanje migranata, dijeli od američkog sna

 

18 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said:

apsolutno nemoguće da 20-30% crnaca glasa za GOP, a kad sam ti ostavio link koji kaže da ih već imaju 18%, pravio si se gluv.

Nisam gluv, nego ne želim slušati poll budalaštine koje se redovno na svim izborima dokažu upravo kao to, budalaštine.

 

Kao što neću čitati provale Patricka Ruffinija, MAGA pollstera

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5 minutes ago, Roger Sanchez said:

Evo ti tvoj Atlantik ravno natrag u bulju

 

Retardi ostaju retardi, jbg, ali oni bar konstatuju problem demokrata sa low-income voters pre nego što ga rutinski pripišu kulturnim razlozima :D 

 

Ti se zato praviš da on ne postoji i ne može postojati, jer ti je neko nekad na nekom PoliSci 101 kursu rekao da sirotinja glasa za plave i punktum.

 

5 minutes ago, Roger Sanchez said:

Nisam gluv, nego ne želim slušati poll budalaštine koje se redovno na svim izborima dokažu upravo kao to, budalaštine.

 

Na svim izborima :lolol: Pa 16% tih low income voters su izgubili za samo četiri godine, jebo te bog, a ti se tešiš da nema veze jer to su sigurno bili beli muškarci blizu medijane kojima nije ni stalo do para koliko im je stalo da proteruju migrante :isuse: 

 

Po tvojoj definiciji, samo rasna manjina može biti praaava sirotinja, a i oni samo dok ne počnu da glasaju za GOP, posle se više ne važi jer su u pitanju evidentno latinosi koji bi da povuku lestvice za sobom :isuse:

 

Uvijaš se u čvor da bi porekao problem koji demokrate same priznaju da postoji.

 

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Teamsters:

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O’Brien has drawn criticism for speaking at this summer’s Republican National Convention — though he said his anti-corporate message :laugh: polled overwhelmingly well with members — and was snubbed when he solicited a similar role at the Democratic convention a few weeks later.

A member of the Teamsters’ board has challenged O’Brien and the volunteer-led Teamsters National Black Caucus got out in front of leadership by backing Harris ahead of the DNC.

On Monday, O’Brien reiterated that President Joe Biden has been “great for unions” and lamented Trump’s recent comments with mogul Elon Musk, in which the former president flippantly discussed retaliating against striking workers by firing them — an illegal practice.

O’Brien said the Teamsters asked the same questions of Harris that it did of Biden and other candidates and that the pair gave some similar responses.

“There wasn’t a whole lot of difference,” he said.

The Teamsters have focused on candidates’ support for the PRO Act, a sweeping set of union-friendly changes to federal labor law, as well as bankruptcy reform and antitrust policies in its roundtable meetings.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Roger Sanchez said:

Bednici zapravo ni ne glasaju, niti su velika masa elektorata...

Tako je, рођо!!!

Prole u logore, radne kolonije, taj rad, jos je mudri anduril davno predlagao da se biracko pravo ogranici, da se uvedu kvalifikacijetm, pa nije ta demokratija bas za svakoga...

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Weak sauce, namenski, weak sauce

 

Bolje se vrati na svoje latentne društvene lajtmotive, tipa onaj da javni prizor fizičke blizine kurve koja u tom trenutku nije u aktivnoj službi sramoti ratne veterane, taj uzor čedne alfa muškosti :fantom:

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