USA izbori 2024 - prognoze & play by play

[kipo]

[Jesper23]

7 hours ago, Shan Jan said:

WTF I just watched 

 

Treba biti toliko nesposoban i neharizmatičan, pa da ovako izduvaš od jednog Trampa.

 

Ovo je toliko fejk, baš kao i onaj usrani video endorsmenta od bp Obama. Ne znam zaista kome ovi ljudi misle da se obraćaju, da je plebs toliko plitak? Žena lupeta kao otvoren prozor. Za oživljavanje trampa su direktno krivi oni, a ne glasači. Konstantno su kenjali i zaoštravali retoriku, bili isključivi, kenjali u facu plebsu sa lažnim osmjeho i simpatičnim plesom. Ovakav, savršen kandidat 2024. godine (konstantni ps, nasmijana, women of color, pa uz to i pozivanje na Indijske korjene, odmjerena, voljena od svih) je dobio po pičci od jednog Trampa, nikako da shvate da rl nije njihov babl i da ne mogu izbore režirati kao woke holivudski film. Posljedica svega, svijet mora preživjeti još koju godinu sa Trampom i daj bože da ovo ne izazove lavinu reakcija širom Evrope, a sve ukazuje na to. Liberali su obrnuli krug, umjesto da se drže solidnog tla sami su sebi potkopali temelje.

[Roger Sanchez]

Bit će ovo vrlo poučne 4 godine za puuuno ljudi, treba ih pratiti s pažnjom

 

 

[Tutankamon]

10 hours ago, Seabass said:

Bernie se oglasio

 

 

Oglasio se dan nakon izbora. 

[Turnbull]

28 minutes ago, Tutankamon said:

Oglasio se dan nakon izbora. 

 

 

30 minutes ago, Roger Sanchez said:

Bit će ovo vrlo poučne 4 godine za puuuno ljudi, treba ih pratiti s pažnjom

 

 

 

 

[pbg12345]

15 hours ago, morgana said:

momenat je da citiramo mila i moma iz '90. g, 'nikad vise radnik nece imati platu 1000 maraka'

i tako je radnik ubijedjen da mu je ante markovic dzelat glasao za dps i dodao slobovu sliku iznad trpezarijskog stola.

 

ne znam za to

kakav je kontekst te izjave?

i jel receno u smislu "nikad vise ta sica od iljadu maraka" ili "nije normalno da neko sa osnovnom skolom ide na more ima iljadu maraka"?

[morgana]

Just now, pbg12345 said:

ne znam za to

kakav je kontekst te izjave?

i jel receno u smislu "nikad vise ta sica od iljadu maraka" ili "nije normalno da neko sa osnovnom skolom ide na more ima iljadu maraka"?

 

ovo prvo, lozili su ljude da je 1000 maraka malo i da im je ante crni tiranin

 

ostalo je istorija

[Jeremija]

11 minutes ago, morgana said:

 

ovo prvo, lozili su ljude da je 1000 maraka malo i da im je ante crni tiranin

 

ostalo je istorija

 

 

Kad čovek bolje razmisli, nisu ništa lagali, dugo, dugo posle toga radnik nije imao toliku platu.

[morgana]

pa da. realizacija predizbornog obecanja 100%

[Moonwalker]

1 hour ago, Jesper23 said:

Ovo je toliko fejk, baš kao i onaj usrani video endorsmenta od bp Obama. Ne znam zaista kome ovi ljudi misle da se obraćaju, da je plebs toliko plitak? Žena lupeta kao otvoren prozor. Za oživljavanje trampa su direktno krivi oni, a ne glasači. Konstantno su kenjali i zaoštravali retoriku, bili isključivi, kenjali u facu plebsu sa lažnim osmjeho i simpatičnim plesom.

Kome su kenjali u facu? Simpaticnom plebsu? Sta treba da im radi? Evo bivsi zemljak se raduje jer je izjebao kurvu.

Zajebali su sto su je postavili, trebali su da postave muskarca i to belog, da onda nemaju izgovor.
Sav zajeb im je u tome. I mislim da su to uradili namerno, a ona se zajebala sto je prihvatila. Da pokazu da ne moze.
Onaj ko vidi realno stvari onakve kakve jesu ne bi. Niko od ambicioznijih muskaraca se ne bi prihvatio kandidature dok se ne izduva balon primitivizma.

 

Ona je u svom zivotu uradila vise nego ova maloumna budala. Treba da je uspesna kao Melanija?

 

Svaka osoba koja je radila u razlicitim sredinama, a pogotovo na nekakvom terenu (ja jesam) zna razliku u ponasanju cak i nacelno konzervativnih iz primitivnijih i manje primitivnih sredina.

Ovi ne bi glasali za zenu da je ne znam sta postigla u zivotu. Boli ih kurac i za Ukrajinu i za Palestinu. Sa dziberlukom vec mogu da se identifikuju.

 

Jao, pa jao glupaca. A ono na drugoj strani sve nobelovac do nobelovca.  Na svaki najnizi od najnizih ljudskih  nagona su isli. Treba imati petlju pa se izloziti tome.

 

Glup je odvratan ratni profiter retard iz Banjaluke koji potplacuje (clan familije mi je u tome iz cistog oportunizma)  da se valja balkanska verzija trampizma. Evropa ce preziveti nekako. Od balkanskih Trampova tu nece ostati nista.

 

Na Balkanu posteno liberalnih ljudi ima malo, postoji razlika izmedju naoko pristojnih. Pozeraj i foliraza svud naokolo.

Edited November 7 by Moonwalker

[Lord Protector]

Here is an enhanced graph showing simulated mortality rates for white male workers from 1984 to 2024, with a focus on the "deaths of despair" categories:

• Heart Disease and Cancer: Continued general decline, though still prominent causes of mortality.
• Suicide: Rising trend, reflecting growing mental health challenges.
• Drug Overdoses: Sharp increase starting in the 2000s, largely attributed to the opioid crisis.
• Alcohol-Related Deaths: Noticeable rise, linked to increased rates of heavy drinking and alcohol-related liver disease.

This visualization emphasizes the significant impact of mental health, substance use, and economic factors on mortality rates in this demographic.

 

Demographic trends for mortality among white, male workers in the U.S. over the last 40 years reveal shifts due to factors like lifestyle changes, employment patterns, and healthcare advancements. Between the 1980s and early 2000s, mortality rates for white men generally declined due to improvements in medical care and public health. However, since the mid-2000s, there has been a notable increase in mortality for certain age groups among white males, particularly due to factors like the opioid crisis, economic shifts affecting manufacturing and labor jobs, and rising rates of "deaths of despair" (suicide, substance abuse, and alcohol-related deaths).

The CDC's recent data highlights that, by 2022, heart disease and cancer remained the leading causes of death among white males. Still, significant rises have occurred in mortality rates linked to unintentional injuries, mainly due to drug overdoses. Despite a decrease in COVID-19 deaths since the pandemic peak, these other mortality causes have maintained elevated levels in recent years, signaling enduring health challenges among working-age white men, especially in economically depressed regions. Furthermore, death rates from causes like chronic liver disease and suicide have remained consistently higher than previous decades, reflecting a broader societal impact on mental health and addiction among this demographic.

 

The rise in mortality rates among white males since the mid-2000s, especially those in working-class or economically vulnerable positions, reflects several complex and interrelated social, economic, and health factors. This trend, often referred to as an increase in "deaths of despair," includes significant rises in suicide, substance abuse (especially opioids), and alcohol-related illnesses. These deaths have disproportionately impacted men in rural or deindustrialized areas, where the loss of stable, well-paying jobs has had a substantial effect on community health and personal well-being.

Key Contributing Factors:
Opioid Epidemic: The opioid crisis has been a primary driver of increased mortality. Beginning in the late 1990s, aggressive marketing and over-prescription of opioid painkillers led to widespread dependency, especially among individuals with physically demanding jobs who were more likely to experience chronic pain. As prescriptions tightened, many turned to cheaper, more dangerous alternatives, such as heroin and fentanyl, leading to a surge in overdose deaths.

Economic Shifts and Job Losses: Many industries, particularly manufacturing, declined sharply in the 2000s due to globalization, automation, and shifts to service-based economies. White men, especially those with lower levels of formal education, were heavily impacted. The resulting economic instability has been linked to poorer mental health outcomes, including higher rates of depression and suicide. Job loss also disrupts social networks, reducing access to support systems that might otherwise mitigate despair.

Mental Health and Social Isolation: As communities in economically distressed areas have seen shrinking job markets, there's often been an increase in social isolation, particularly among middle-aged and older white men. Social isolation has been linked to a host of adverse mental and physical health outcomes, including an increased risk of addiction, depression, and suicide.

Alcohol and Substance Abuse: In addition to opioids, alcohol-related deaths have increased significantly in recent decades. Chronic liver disease and alcohol-related cirrhosis rates have risen, reflecting higher rates of heavy drinking, often as a form of self-medication among those facing financial and emotional hardships. This trend has been especially pronounced among white males, for whom alcohol-related liver disease has become a leading cause of mortality.

Healthcare Access and Stigma: Access to healthcare, particularly mental health services, is limited in many rural and economically disadvantaged areas. Additionally, cultural attitudes in some communities can discourage seeking help for mental health issues, which exacerbates the impact of underlying issues such as depression and anxiety.

 

 

Edited November 7 by Lord Protector

[Lord Protector]

Marriage and divorce trends among white male workers in the U.S. have shifted significantly over the last 40 years, influenced by broader social, economic, and educational factors. Marriage rates have generally declined, especially for men with lower educational attainment and those in economically vulnerable positions, such as manual labor and manufacturing jobs. White men with higher educational backgrounds are more likely to marry and less likely to divorce than those with less education, as shown in longitudinal studies like the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth (NLSY79).

The divorce rate, particularly among men with less than a college degree, has risen, with economic instability and job insecurity contributing factors. This demographic, especially impacted by the loss of manufacturing jobs and wage stagnation, has faced higher divorce rates than their more affluent, educated counterparts. Divorce rates are lower among college-educated men due to the increased economic stability that often accompanies higher education, as well as changes in marriage dynamics that favor stability for more educated demographics.

 

Edited November 7 by Lord Protector

[Jeremija]

28 minutes ago, Moonwalker said:

 

Zajebali su sto su je postavili, trebali su da postave muskarca i to belog, da onda nemaju izgovor.
Sav zajeb im je u tome. I mislim da su to uradili namerno, a ona se zajebala sto je prihvatila. Da pokazu da ne moze.
Onaj ko vidi realno stvari onakve kakve jesu ne bi. Niko od ambicioznijih muskaraca se ne bi prihvatio kandidature dok se ne izduva balon primitivizma.

 

 

 

Mislim da ljudi nisu ni svesni koliki je mentalni blok za mnoge tamo da glasaju ženu, sećam se nekih demonstracija iz perioda kad se Hilari kandidovala, bilo je puno transparenata tipa, "dajte crnca, nećemo ženu", čak su i neki iz Kju Kluks Klana to nosili.

 

Kad se takvom mentalitetu doda i činjenica da narod jednostavno i pored svih mana želi Trampa (slično kao sa Reganom posle prvog mandata), onda rezultati i ne čude, mene lično samo čudi to što je ona to tako olako prihvatila.

 

 

 

Edited November 7 by Jeremija

[Shan Jan]

2 minutes ago, Jeremija said:

Mislim da ljudi nisu ni svesni koliki je mentalni blok za mnoge tamo da glasaju ženu, sećam se nekih demonstracija iz perioda kad se Hilari kandidovala, bilo je puno transparenata tipa, "dajte crnca, nećemo ženu", čak su i neki iz Kju Kluks Klana to nosili.

 

Kad se takvom mentalitetu doda i činjenica da narod jednostavno i pored svih mana želi Trampa (slično kao sa Reganom posle prvog mandata), onda rezultati i ne čude, mene lično samo čudi to što je ona to tako olako prihvatila.

Isto tako gomila ljudi je glasalo za nju samo zato jer je zensko i manjina. 

[Moonwalker]

7 minutes ago, Jeremija said:

 

Mislim da ljudi nisu ni svesni koliki je mentalni blok za mnoge tamo da glasaju ženu, sećam se nekih demonstracija iz perioda kad se Hilari kandidovala, bilo je puno transparenata tipa, "dajte crnca, nećemo ženu", čak su i neki iz Kju Kluks Klana to nosili.

 

Kad se takvom mentalitetu doda i činjenica da narod jednostavno i pored svih mana želi Trampa (slično kao sa Reganom posle prvog mandata), onda rezultati i ne čude, mene lično samo čudi to što je ona to tako olako prihvatila.

 

Nisu ni one realne sto su prihvatile. I to je mozda klasni out of touch.
Vaznije je uvek da se zavrsi posao, nego da se po svaku cenu ostvari svaka licna ambicija. 

 

Hoce ljudi identifikaciju sa nekim, eto dobili su je, sa cim god u njemu da se identifikuju. Sta ce zaista dobiti uz to vreme ce pokazati.

 

Edited November 7 by Moonwalker