10 minutes ago, harper said:

Kad treba da uradi nesto sto zahteva malo out-of-the-box razmisljanja po pravilu blokira ili se useprtlja.

 

Jos ona budala od komentatora sinoc pljuje Ohija koji je dodao losu loptu, tek zbog njega sam hteo da razbijem televizor.

Bold 1: I asistira Kangi za pobedu. 

Bold 2: Nasa (dvadesetosmogodisnja) deca™

33 minutes ago, harper said:

 

Pavkov je jednostavno glup igrac, nije bilo do njegove zelje da stigne loptu. Obe prilike koje je imao je propustio jer je glup igrac. On ima osnovne stvari, skok igru (mada mu je trzaj glavom kriminalan za tolikog coveka, on ne udara loptu glavom vec postavi glavu da lopti promeni pravac), ume fino da zazdi loptu punom kad je pogodi slucajno kako treba i neobicno je talican, sto je velika korist za napadaca. Kad treba da uradi nesto sto zahteva malo out-of-the-box razmisljanja po pravilu blokira ili se useprtlja.

 

Ja nisam verovao sta gledam sinoc kad je uredno ispratio pogledom onu Ohijevu loptu koja mu je lagano prosla isped nosa i stigao bi je osamdesetogodisnji paraplegicar koji ima mozga, bukvalno sam mogao da razbijem televizor. To je ona klasicna situacija kad coveku dodju dve misli u glavu istovremeno i on ne uradi nista jer te dve misli ne moze da isprocesira na vreme. Covek sve vreme prati akciju, otkriven je i u trenutku kad lopta krene prema njemu jednostavno se ukoci. Da ne poverujes. Jos ona budala od komentatora sinoc pljuje Ohija koji je dodao losu loptu, tek zbog njega sam hteo da razbijem televizor.

I moja prva reakcija na Pavkovljevu propustenu sansu posle Ohijevog pasa bila je - moron.  Srecom, ja sam slusao prenos koji su realizovali skotski komenatori pa nisam morao dodatno da se nerviram.  Kada pomenuh skotske komentatore, dizala im se kosa na glavi (ako je imaju) svaki put kada su Katai i Ivanic kretali prema Rendzersovom golu.  "These players make havoc in the Rangers defense."  Kada je Katai jednom prilikom stiklom poslao skotskog odbrambenog igraca u gol aut, komentar je bio: "Oh my God".  Laknulo im je u drugom poluvremenu posle izjednacenja i kada je Mirko poceo da centrira na severnu tribinu.

 

E, sad nesto i na Ohijev racun.  On je u prvom poluvremenu imao sut galvom iz peterca ka golu, mada je u toj situcaiji bilo bolje da loptu prosledi Pavkovu koji je bio u boljoj poziciji,  usamljen, na svega nekoliko metara od Ohija.  Udarac glavom koji je Ohi uputio nije bio dovoljno jak jer je Ohi prerano skocio i bio je ometan od strane Rendzersovog igraca a i ugao prema golu je bio mali pa je golman lako uhvatio tu loptu.  Da je umesto suta na gol, Ohi prosledio loptu Pavkovu, mozda bi ponovo reagovali - moron, a mozda bi bilo i 2-0, a Milance opet heroj Marakane.

Edited March 18, 20223 yr by Dimitrije

Istina, Pavkov tako mlohavo tuce glavom da je to jezivo. Danas mi je cudniji njegov prvi gol Liverpulu nego drugi. U nekoliko utakmica je vec imao mekane udarce glavom iz dobrih sansi, sa 7-8 metara, Kluz sigurno, a ostalog vise ne mogu konkretno da se setim. I protiv Milana je udario mlohavo, ali je zajebao i njine.  

Stankovic je na primer tukao glavom k'o nogom, ulazio je kicmom iz sve snage u udarac. 

23 minutes ago, Dimitrije said:

I moja prva reakcija na Pavkovljevu propustenu sansu posle Ohijevog pasa bila je - moron.  Srecom, ja sam slusao prenos koji su realizovali skotski komenatori pa nisam morao dodatno da se nerviram.  Kada pomenuh skotske komentatore, dizala im se kosa na glavi (ako je imaju) svaki put kada su Katai i Ivanic kretali prema Rendzersovom golu.  "These players make havoc in the Rangers defense."  Kada je Katai jednom prilikom stiklom poslao skotskog odbrambenog igraca u gol aut, komentar je bio: "Oh my God".  Laknulo im je u drugom poluvremenu posle izjednacenja i kada je Mirko poceo da centrira na severnu tribinu.

 

E, sad nesto i na Ohijev racun.  On je u prvom poluvremenu imao sut galvom iz peterca ka golu, mada je u toj situcaiji bilo bolje da loptu prosledi Pavkovu koji je bio u boljoj poziciji,  usamljen, na svega nekoliko metara od Ohija.  Udarac glavom koji je Ohi uputio nije bio dovoljno jak jer je Ohi prerano skocio i bio je ometan od strane Rendzersovog igraca a i ugao prema golu je bio mali pa je golman lako uhvatio tu loptu.  Da je umesto suta na gol, Ohi prosledio loptu Pavkovu, mozda bi ponovo reagovali - moron, a mozda bi bilo i 2-0, a Milance opet heroj Marakane.

i ja isto. po pravilu biram prenose stranih komentatora, ove nase ne mogu da slusam. samo nesto trtljaju, dave nepotrebnim podacima, kao da im placaju po izgovorenoj reci.  pristrasni su, nigde objektivnosti.  nekad se prisetim radio prenosa nedeljom posle podne, rucak mirise iz kuhinje, a sa radija komentator u transu. uzivanje je to bilo (mozda zato sto je sve bilo bolje kada sam bio mlad :)).

Niste imali epohalan zabod u prelaznom roku, ali je napredak neupitan. 

 

Ohi služi da se u srpskoj ligi razbiju bunkeri, a Pićini je stvarno odličan; mada mislim da on ima neki fizički limit i da će većinu utakmica raditi tek sat vremena. Drugim rečima još će se Gajić naigrati fudbala.

 

Motika je u perspektivi najbolja Zvezdina kupovina i linija koju bi klub trebao da sledi u politici transfera. 

7 minutes ago, April said:

Niste imali epohalan zabod u prelaznom roku, ali je napredak neupitan. 

 

Ohi služi da se u srpskoj ligi razbiju bunkeri, a Pićini je stvarno odličan; mada mislim da on ima neki fizički limit i da će većinu utakmica raditi tek sat vremena. Drugim rečima još će se Gajić naigrati fudbala.

 

Motika je u perspektivi najbolja Zvezdina kupovina i linija koju bi klub trebao da sledi u politici transfera. 

Gajica mogu da istrpim.  Otako je Picini dosao i Gajic dobio takmaca, Gajic je poceo da igra bolje.  Zanimljivo je da Gobeljic nije odigrao ni minut u nastavku sezone.  Cak i kada Picini i/ili Rodic nisu u igri, Stankovic radije bira Gajica kao zamenu na obe bekovske pozicije pa i Radulovica a ne Gobeljica.  Ali bolje da ga ne prizivam ovog poslednjeg.

Gajic kad je usao umesto Picinija, kao da je dete uslo umesto muskarca. Ali naravno da je bolji od Gobelje, Filip Stojkovic je duplo bolji od Gobelje, a nervirao nas je kad je bio tu jer nume napred. 

Prvi put, za ovih skoro 30 godina odlaska na Marakanu, sam zakasnio na početak tekme i prvi put čuo huk i proslavu gola van stadiona. Bilo je jako jer sam trčao i nosio mob na kom sam gledao prenos dok su me ortaci "navigali" da se negde ne sapletem, sve dok se nisam sudario sa saobraćajcem koji čuva neke glavonje oko Drajzerove. Onako sam se odbio od njega pa ga pogledao i uhvatio ga za onaj fluorescentni prsluk i počeo da ruljam GOOOOOOOOOOL

Bila je jaka ta scena obzirom da je još jedna grupa od 5,6 momaka hitala ka stadionu i proslavljala sa nama na sred ulice.

 

Tužan sam zbog ispadanja, ali prezadovoljan borbom i igrom u oba meča. Neko će nazvati srećom, neko lošom završnicom, neko manjkom kvaliteta za veće Evro domete, svejedno delovalo je lepo i drugačije za razliku od svih onih ranih ispadanja u sezoni kupanja od raznih dunstera. Valjda su nas malo i razmazili i podigli nam očekivanja posle 5 evropskih sezona. Da je uprava bila agilna kao Miloje i Deki uz momke na terenu, gde bi nam bio kraj!?

 

Meni je bilo nestvarno da ih je toliko "htelo" da je centaršut Gajića malo iznad zemlje, njihov štoper pokušao da blokira na 2m od gola tako što se bacio i lopta ga pogadja u ispruženu nogu, negde iza pete i ne ulazi u gol, već protivno svim zakonima fizike odbija se od zemlje i leti u vis pravo u golmanove ruke !!!! Posle toga su mi se srušile sve nade da prolazimo. Jedino sam iz sve snage navijao da ne ostane 1:1 da damo bar još 1 gol za pobedu koju smo više nego zaslužili (bez obzira što bi to bila Pirova pobeda za ovaj dvomeč).

 

Naravno,kao i do sad, stojim da je Ohi veliko pojačanje što će golovi dokazati. Samo sam zamišljao njega u saradnji sa Falčinelijem npr...

 

 

 

Mali detalj u poluvremenu, koji niko nije pomenuo, je bacio senku na dobro navijanje gostujućih navijača. Naravno stoka je bacala stolice preko zaštitne mreže ka jugu dobrih 15tak minuta, dok neko nije naredio "kornjačama" da udju u njihov boks. Zašto je to dozvoljeno, videli smo to svaki put i na derbiju, i zašto murija odmah ne reaguje, kao i da li će Rendžers biti kažnjen zbog toga ili je to neki minimum divljanja koji prolazi ispod radar UEFA - ne znam, ali bilo je prilično odvranto gledati sve to. Slično je bilo jedino protiv Kelna kad je divljanje njihovih navijača trajalo mnooogo, mnoooogo duže.

7 hours ago, Plajvi said:

Istina, Pavkov tako mlohavo tuce glavom da je to jezivo. Danas mi je cudniji njegov prvi gol Liverpulu nego drugi. U nekoliko utakmica je vec imao mekane udarce glavom iz dobrih sansi, sa 7-8 metara, Kluz sigurno, a ostalog vise ne mogu konkretno da se setim. I protiv Milana je udario mlohavo, ali je zajebao i njine.  

Stankovic je na primer tukao glavom k'o nogom, ulazio je kicmom iz sve snage u udarac. 

 

Bila je brza lopta iz kornera na koju je naleteo, tu je zajeban. Ima on fizicki sve sto mu treba za dobar trzaj glavom ali nema tehniku, trebalo bi Stankovic malo da poradi s njim na tome. Onaj prvi gol Mladosti koji je dao Ohi na sporu loptu Kataija (plus je Norvezanin prerano skocio pa je cimnuo maltene u padu) Pavkov ne bi dao u tri zivota jer ne bi umeo da joj da onoliko ubrzanje trzajem. Kao da ima los tajming pri trzaju.

Za manje od mesec dana postajem deda.  Moja snaja, Amerikanka, mu je vec kupila odelce pa se zna za koga ce da navija.

Veceras u 18:30 protiv Kolubare, ulaz besplatan.

Katai i Picini povredjeni, ostali su ok.

Moguc sastav

CRVENA ZVEZDA (4-2-3-1): Borjan – Gajić, Eraković, Dragović, Rodić – Sanogo, Kanga – Ben, Ivanić, Motika – Ohi.

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The intimidating tunnel, a two-minute walk to pitch and the roaring Red Star ultras

Jordan Campbell Mar 17, 2022 11

 

“When people talk about the tunnel being famous they say, ‘It’s not like they’re gladiators’. But these players are like gladiators when they walk through here onto the pitch,” says Alexandria, Red Star Belgrade’s tour guide.

It may sound twee in an age in which football’s heritage has largely been eroded in favour of sanitised commercialism but, as you walk through the neverending tunnel at the Rajko Mitic Stadium, it is clear that not only is this bowl-shaped arena a relic of a bygone age, it is every bit as powerful as the anecdotes claim.

Red Star’s ground has undergone subtle modernisation in recent years to comply with UEFA requirements but the one unique feature that remains largely unchanged is this original tunnel, built in 1963, leading the players to the pitch.

What makes it so unique? For starters, the changing rooms are outside the stadium and the walk from them to the turf is so long that, although, whistle-to-whistle, half-time is the conventional 15 minutes long, the amount of time it takes to get to and from the building housing them means it is actually curtailed to around 11 minutes.

 

The players’ changing rooms are located in a building outside the stadium.

After Red Star’s players enter the arena tonight (Thursday) for the second leg of a Europa League last-16 tie, James Tavernier will then lead Rangers’ players out of the annexed building at the back of the stadium.

From there, it is a 240-metre walk to the pitch — by far the longest in European football.

It will take over two minutes for the Rangers team to make it out of the tunnel. They will then have to cross a running track and walk half the length of the pitch to line up for the pre-match anthem.

Alexandria talks about the “psychological advantage” this unique tunnel offers Red Star’s players. As you walk down it, it soon becomes clear why footage from the pre-match walk at the “eternal derby” against city rivals Partizan still regularly pops up on social media.

Here’s what the tunnel looks like now for Rangers to walk through…

The downward slope of the tunnel mirrors the incline of the concrete stand above, making it feel like you’re entering an amphitheatre. The tube-shaped structure is covered by bright red paint and psychedelic red and white swirls and motifs. Its ceiling is so low that players over 6ft tall have to lean forward at times to avoid hitting their heads.

Players are used to the darkness of a tunnel and the warmth of the bright lights hitting them as the sky opens up in front of them. But this is not like turning one corner from the dressing room and quickly being out on the grass, this is more akin to the pressure a boxer experiences during a ring-walk before a title fight.

Two minutes is a long time to be alone with your thoughts, and that becomes apparent walking the route in silence with no one around.

It will be a completely different matter tonight with more than 50,000 Serbians desperate for their team to become only the second side in Europa League history to overturn a three-goal deficit following Rangers’ first-leg victory at Ibrox last week.

Just 15cm of concrete separates the roof of the tunnel from the ultras above it, meaning its walls tremble and the sound vibrates down.

While Red Star will walk straight down and out of the main tunnel, which is built into the stand, Rangers will instead take a left turn 20 yards beforehand and follow a different route.

There, they will then go down two sets of stairs and walk along the path where fans will be banging on the other side of a red bolted door.

Two divisions of Belgrade’s special police force line either side of the tunnel to act as a buffer between the players and the home fans on the other side, but Rangers will have a little extra distance to walk so they avoid exiting underneath the home fans, whose collective name “Delije” is written across the seats behind that goal.

On the walls behind them are paintings of fans who have lost their lives, and of their Serbian heroes and players.

Rangers will be glad to have some room between them and the crowd when they climb the final set of steps and reach the advertising boards.

 

At the end of their long walk, this is where the Rangers players will emerge into the arena

 

Rangers will enter the pitch through the tunnel closest to the pitch, while the Red Star players will emerge from underneath the ultras’ section

 

The stadium suddenly opens up and the travelling Rangers support will be centre of the players’ eyelines when they look up, as they have a pen set aside for them in the far corner, guarded by fencing and nets on all sides.

Although the stadium is as traditional as it gets, there are plans underway to install a roof, work on which will begin next season.

When the stadium was first built, there were around 20,000 standing places, equivalent to 8,000 seats, but at its peak, there were more than 110,000.

That is where the name Marakana comes from, as it was a tribute to Brazil’s national stadium, which has the same name and was once the biggest in the world.

But renovations have been carried out in recent years, spearheaded by Hamilton Academical general manager Scott Struthers, who also works as a UEFA stadium inspector and match delegate. He has conducted 75 inspections in all but between 2016 and 2018 Red Star became his focus after attending a Europa League first-round qualifier against Maltese side Floriana.

“It was abundantly clear that they had let the ground go,” he says. “Having won the Champions League against Marseille in 1991 they converted the ground from its 110,000 (capacity) terracing. It then had to be all-seated but after that they didn’t do much at all.

“They hadn’t qualified for the group stages for 10 consecutive seasons so they had fallen off UEFA’s radar. UEFA had been sent various correspondence about upgrading certain parts but they simply hadn’t, and by not qualifying no one had followed it up.

“The ground wasn’t compliant, be it from toilets, CCTV, control rooms, turnstiles, the state of the terracing, the maps outside the ground. It just wasn’t meeting modern group-stage requirements.

“The minute a seat was broken, it remained broken. When a seat was thrown, it remained missing. Because the ultras were so used to running that stand behind the goals themselves, I convinced the clubs to make a YouTube video explaining to the ultras why they had new seats.

“It looks superb now and is in a really good condition but it was a matter of them accepting why they had to be upgraded.”

Red Star manager Dejan Stankovic is certainly not giving up on turning this tie around and he is hoping the home advantage — and the test of character in the tunnel — can spur his team on to do the unthinkable.

“Nothing is lost,” he said. “One early goal for Red Star can change everything. We will see how Rangers will behave under pressure, like we were in Glasgow.

“This stadium makes Red Star players twice as good as usual. That adrenaline, that roar that comes from the stands — it will be twice as strong as at Ibrox.

“It won’t scare Rangers, they know they play in front of a full stadium. But let them count on this — they will play a twice-as-strong rival.”

Edited March 20, 20223 yr by John Coltrane

koliko je užasan tunel. opet kažem ponavljam treba ako može ikako da se adaptira ovaj izlaz direktno ispod zapada, jeste strmo i klaustrofobično, ali staviš pokretne stepenice, malo plastike i led ekrana i teraj

 

 

 

Sastav: Borjan - Gajic, Dragovic, Erakovic, Rodic - Krsticic, Kanga - Motika, Ivanic, Ben - Ohi.


Klupa: Gordic, Djuric, Radulovic, Srnic, Stanic, Stankovic, Falko, Zivkovic, Pavkov.