Bajden - jedno staro i očekivano presidency?

[3opge]

Bajden ponudio pomoc Indiji u sirovinama za vakcinu 

(vest sam sad cuo na radiju)

[vememah]

Upravo dođoh da postavim.

 

 

[Gojko & Stojko]

On 21.4.2021. at 12:32, Weenie Pooh said:

Ma ništa, samo podsećam da citiraš ordinarnu budaletinu, možda najčuvenijeg klovna u američkoj MSM branši. Njegove naporne rečenice, stilski izmasakrirane a suštinski isprazne... ko to redovno čita, ni pakao mu neće teško pasti.

I šta onda? Pitanje je bilo da li Bajden uopšte zna gde je Avganistan i šta je to, članak iz novina od tog dana sasvim prikladan, pozivanje na činjenice. A ti se ovde ubi da nam pokažeš da to što je "dementni" Džo zamenio vanserijsku budaletinu, riđokoso mizogino rasističko homofobično lažljivo lopovsko narcisioidno govedo^tm nešto loše, da apsolutno ništa nije uradio za sto dana vladavine bilo bi bolje od prethodniika, a čovek je uradio i preko očekivanja, ovo tvoje insistiranje na sporednim stvarima je kao ono "kako montira!". I da bar ima smisla - na mene je najveći utisak iz teksta ostavila činjenica da je tad vojska lagano odjebavala Bajdena koji je bio predsednik senatskog komiteta za međunarodne odnose (takvo ponašanje mogu da zamislim u Vučićevoj Srbiji ali nikako u Australiji ili nekoj drugoj zapadnoj zemlji), tako da je i povlačenje iz Avganistana neka vrsta kosmičke pravde i Bajdenovo pokazivanje generalima da moraju da se povinuju civilnoj vlasti (kao što je u NYT istog dana kad je objavljen i Fridmanov članak ispisala Morin Daud). U svakom slučaju hvala za trud za odgovor.

 

SaE

[Weenie Pooh]

4 minutes ago, Gojko & Stojko said:

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citiraš ordinarnu budaletinu

 

I šta onda?

 

 

Pa ništa, uživaj.

[Gojko & Stojko]

9 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Pa ništa, uživaj.

Sa zadovoljstvom. Evo još malo u tonu poslednjeg Obijevog citata sa prethodne strane, britanski dopisnik iz Njujorka:

Biden isn’t FDR. He’s the anti-Reagan.

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There is another way, however, of thinking about the Biden presidency: not as a revival of Roosevelt, but rather as a repudiation of Reagan. Arguably, Biden has become the first Democratic president in 40 years to mount a major counteroffensive against the legacy of the country’s 40th leader.

 

To restore the Democratic Party's viability in presidential politics, Bill Clinton made significant ideological concessions to Reaganism. Indeed, the young president almost ventriloquized Reagan in his 1996 State of the Union address when he declared, “The era of big government is over.” Two years earlier, after another Clinton State of the Union, Reagan joked, “I’m reminded of the adage that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Only in this case, it’s not flattery, but grand larceny.”

 

More surprising was how enthusiastically Obama saluted Reagan. During the 2008 campaign, Obama openly praised what was then the most conservative presidency of the previous four decades. At one of his own White House seminars for historians, Obama was eager to glean from them what lessons he could about The Gipper.

 

Biden, however, is signaling that the era of big Reaganism is over by rejecting the central proposition of the Reagan presidency: “Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem,” the most ringing line from the 1981 inaugural. Biden is trying to engineer not only a revival of government, but also a reconsideration of its essential role. For this president, restoring the soul of America requires reviving faith in government.

 

In making his case, Biden has already been at pains to point out that the federal government was the builder of world-beating infrastructure in the 1950s, and the victor of the space race at the end of the 1960s. Now government has been mobilized to combat the planetary pandemic.

 

By seeking to levy more corporate tax, Biden is also trying to revive the nobler instincts of U.S. boardrooms, a rejection of the greed-is-good ethos prioritizing the maximization of shareholder value that took hold in the 1980s. Regulatory robustness, of that type that went out of fashion during and after the Reagan years, will be a central feature of the Biden era.

 

This 78-year-old is also departing from the model of the modern presidency that Reagan essentially invented, with its emphasis on the theatrical aspects of the job. For him, the presidency is neither performative nor omnipresent.

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SaE

[mlatko]

Bajden ponudio pomoc Indiji u sirovinama za vakcinu 
(vest sam sad cuo na radiju)

Jesu bile i neke zalihe AZ? Šta je s njima?

Neću ni da počinjem o polemici zašto je uopšte moralo da dođe do nestašice sirovina.

Inviato dal mio Mi 9 Lite utilizzando Tapatalk

[Aleksija]

2 hours ago, mlatko said:

Jesu bile i neke zalihe AZ? Šta je s njima?

Neću ni da počinjem o polemici zašto je uopšte moralo da dođe do nestašice sirovina.

Inviato dal mio Mi 9 Lite utilizzando Tapatalk
 

https://apnews.com/article/politics-health-business-government-and-politics-coronavirus-26fa41b98fab721218d9a51065351d9d

[Anduril]

20 hours ago, Radoye said:

Koje faktografski netacne generalizacije? Jel' mozda ove?

 

Posto se i dalje ukopavas, mozda ces bolje razumeti ovako:

 

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Htedoh reci da je super to sto su se konacno setili zapadnjaci da priznaju genocid nad Jermenima, dugo godina su cutali o tome jer nisu zeleli da antagonizuju Tursku kao potencijalnog saveznika protiv "crvene posasti".

 

Od 32 zemlje koje su priznale genocid polovina su "zapadnjaci". Nema Kine, nema SSSR-a i vecine drugih zemalja. Dakle, prva netacna generalizacija.

Prvi parlament zapada koji donosi rezoluciju o genocidu je u Kanadi 1996. i Senat u Belgiji jos 1998. a posle niz drugih.

Evropski Parlament jos 1987. Imas ovde citav niz rezolucija: https://www.mfa.am/en/recognition/

Dakle, druga tvoja netacna generalizicija da su se tek sada setili.

 

Zatim, umesto da kazes sorry my bad, pokusavas da skrenes paznju daljim nizom povrsnosti:

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The House of Representatives affirmed the United States record on the Armenian Genocide with House Resolution 296 on October 29, 2019

 

Da, bila je rezolucija 2019. ali bilo je i ovo:

"4/8/1975--Passed House amended. (Measure passed House, amended, roll call #105 (332-55)) Authorizes the President to designate April 24, 1975, as "National Day of Remembrance of Man's Inhumanity to Man" for remembrance of all the victims of genocide, especially those of Armenian ancestry who succumbed to the genocide perpetrated in 1915." https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/94/hjres148/summary

i ovo 1984. https://www.armenian-genocide.org/Affirmation.158/current_category.7/affirmation_detail.html

i 1996. https://www.armenian-genocide.org/Affirmation.159/current_category.7/affirmation_detail.html

 

Zatim se opet hvatas za datume:

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2010 - Swedish parliament passed a resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide as well as the Assyrian genocide and Greek genocide, but the foreign minister said that this resolution did not reflect the position of the executive branch. Turkey recalled its ambassador from Stockholm

 

Da, ali, pre toga je 2000. bilo ovo: https://www.armenian-genocide.org/Affirmation.165/current_category.7/affirmation_detail.html

Jeste, nije rezolucija priznanja, ali se bar otvoreno spominje i zapocinje proces a ne da su se zapadnjaci tek sada nesto setili kao sto si napisao.

 

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Resolution passed first reading in April 2015. On June 2, 2016, the German Bundestag almost unanimously (with one vote against and one abstention) passed a resolution qualifying the Ottoman-era Armenian killings 'genocide'.

 

I opet povrsnost jer je pre toga bilo i ovo 2005: https://www.armenian-genocide.org/Affirmation.339/current_category.7/affirmation_detail.html

Prema tome, ne, nisu se zapadnjaci tek sada setili genocida nego proces priznanja ide vec decenijama prvo kroz parlamente, cesto sa nekoliko rezolucija, a zatim vlade ali nazalost suvise sporo.

Vecinu zemalja na Balkanu (cenim i bivse SFRJ), po Aziji ili Africi zabole.

 

[namenski]

5 minutes ago, Anduril said:

Od 32 zemlje koje su priznale genocid polovina su "zapadnjaci".

Naravno da nema. 

Oni su svoje genocide obavili na vreme...

[black mirror]

19 hours ago, ObiW said:

Sleepy Joe kida:

 

https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210324/fema-help-pay-funeral-costs-covid-19-related-deaths

 

WASHINGTON -- In early April, FEMA will begin providing financial assistance for funeral expenses incurred after Jan. 20, 2020 for deaths related to coronavirus (COVID-19) to help ease some of the financial stress and burden caused by the pandemic. The policy was finalized today, and FEMA is now moving rapidly to implement this funeral assistance program nationwide.

 

An applicant may apply for multiple deceased individuals.

 

The COVID-19-related death must have occurred in the United States, including the U.S. territories and the District of Columbia.

 

This assistance is limited to a maximum financial amount of $9,000 per funeral and a maximum of $35,500 per application.  

 

 

 

 

e pa super, sad ameri mogu da umru bez brige i srecni znajuci da nece ostati bez sahrane 

[black mirror]

On 24.4.2021. at 16:39, 3opge said:

vi zaista ocekujete da US, gde je umrlo oko 600 hiljada ljudi a zarazeno oko 32 miliona prvo brine o izvozu vakcina drugim zemljama?
kome bi onda trebalo dati vakcine najpre i koji bi prioritet bio?

 

u nekom normalnom svetu onima koji su na prvoj liniji fronta protiv pandemije tj. medicinskim radnicima i naravno onima koji su najugrozeniji - starijoj populaciji. naravno u ovom divljem kapitalistickom svetu to nece da se desi

 

ova pandemija je definitivno najbolji primer koliko je ovaj divlji kapitalizam nehuman, ko nece da svati to i posle ovoga nece nikada

[ObiW]

17 minutes ago, black mirror said:

 

e pa super, sad ameri mogu da umru bez brige i srecni znajuci da nece ostati bez sahrane 

 

Ali ne zaboravimo da su i sanse da se umre od korone manje nego sto su bile pre 21.1.2021 :

 

How the US went from having one of the worst Covid responses to being a global leader in vaccinations under Biden

 

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The effort, described to CNN during in-depth interviews with three of the administration's top Covid advisers and two other White House officials, has allowed the US to go from having one of the worst Covid responses in the world to being a global leader in getting shots in arms. The interviews reveal how the Biden team inherited a pandemic at its zenith with a high demand for vaccines and little supply, along with no long-term plan to vaccinate millions of Americans. The President, at times impatient, pressed his advisers harder on ways to improve the federal government's response to the virus.

 

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When Biden came into office, the country was experiencing about 3,000 deaths and hundreds of thousands of new cases per day, only about 15 million people were vaccinated and there was a scarce supply of shots. To turn it around, Biden's team brought a fresh urgency and a desire to lean on the scientific experts who had been ignored so much in the previous year.

 

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the nation's top infectious disease specialist -- who once disputed that the Biden team was starting from scratch -- now says that the Biden team deserves credit for the current state of the vaccine roll out.

 

"There was not really a well-articulated, long-range playbook to get the vast majority of the people vaccinated," Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN. "That's where I think the full-court press of the Biden administration really, really stepped up to the plate and did it well."

 

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In 100 days, the US has gone from being heavily criticized for its Covid-19 response -- with over 570,000 recorded deaths, the highest number in the world -- to the envy of the world on vaccinations, with an inoculation rate more than four times the global average.

 

Edited April 26, 2021 by ObiW

[ObiW]

3 minutes ago, black mirror said:

 

u nekom normalnom svetu onima koji su na prvoj liniji fronta protiv pandemije tj. medicinskim radnicima i naravno onima koji su najugrozeniji - starijoj populaciji. naravno u ovom divljem kapitalistickom svetu to nece da se desi

 

ova pandemija je definitivno najbolji primer koliko je ovaj divlji kapitalizam nehuman, ko nece da svati to i posle ovoga nece nikada

Ali bukvalno je svaka zemlja imala taj prioritet vakcinacije... stariji ljudi i zdravstveni radnici. Zar si vec zaboravio sta je bilo u januaru?

[black mirror]

Just now, ObiW said:

Ali bukvalno je svaka zemlja imala taj prioritet vakcinacije... stariji ljudi i zdravstveni radnici. Zar si vec zaboravio sta je bilo u januaru?

 

ne govorim o zemljama nego o covecanstvu, cika iz nepala koji ima 70 godina bi trebao da dobije vakcinu pre nekog iz izraela koji ima 30 godina. i ne govorim samo o vakcinaciji nego o ukupnoj reakciji ovog danasnjeg divljeg kapitalistickog sveta protiv pandemije. praunuci ima da nam se smeju kako smo hendlovali ovu pandemiju

[ObiW]

Just now, black mirror said:

 

ne govorim o zemljama nego o covecanstvu, cika iz nepala koji ima 70 godina bi trebao da dobije vakcinu pre nekog iz izraela koji ima 30 godina. i ne govorim samo o vakcinaciji nego o ukupnoj reakciji ovog danasnjeg divljeg kapitalistickog sveta protiv pandemije. praunuci ima da nam se smeju kako smo hendlovali ovu pandemiju

Da je bio komunizam (to jest socijalizam sa komunistickom partijom na vlasti) a ne kapitalizam, sad bi na ulici zaustavljali autobuse GSBa i vakcinisali sve redom, SKK sloboda izbora, govora i taj luksuz koji nam ne treba u vanrednom stanju.

 

Problem sa socijalizmom kojim upravlja komunisticka partija je taj sto je to odlicno drustveno uredjenje u vanrednim okolnostima. Znaci vrsi posao prvih 10 godina posle svetskog ili gradjanskog rata, a posle toga postaje reakcionarna vlast koja ili potpuno sjebe ekonomiju/standard zivota, ili se sama se urusi. 

 

Tako da jeste, u pravu si, bolje bi ne-kapitalisticko drustvo reagovalo na pandemiju. Problem je zivot u takvom drustvu pre i posle pandemije.