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JOINT STATEMENT FROM ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES: 

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There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

 

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Back on topic -

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/13/trump-election-voter-fraud-claims-attack-democracy

'Corrosive to democracy': what do Trump's baseless claims really mean?

 

The president’s remarks and lawsuits have never been about changing vote totals. Republicans are sowing doubt about whether the foundation of US democracy is sound

 
No one ever really expected Donald Trump to concede the election.

After all, he told the world he wouldn’t. “The Democrats are trying to rig this election because that’s the only way they’re going to win,” he said back on 13 September. “I will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if I win,” he said in 2016.

But even after he won in 2016, he continued to spread lies about voter fraud, falsely saying that between 3 and 5 million people voted illegally. He also falsely claimed he only lost the state of New Hampshire because people were illegally bussed in from out of state. He created a panel to look into these kinds of issues, stacked with some of the country’s most prominent voter fraud conspiracy theorists. The commission, beset by infighting, dissolved without producing evidence of anything.

Now, after losing the 2020 election to Joe Biden, the president is returning to voter fraud to explain his loss. With flimsy evidence, his campaign has touted a slew of baseless lawsuits across the country. These efforts are unlikely to change the outcome of the election. “What is the downside for humoring him for this little bit of time? No one seriously thinks the results will change,” a senior Republican official anonymously told the Washington Post.

 

dugacak clanak, vredan citanja

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Dakle, ipak sistem dopusta da mrtvi glasaju. Ne verujem da je to nesto promenilo, ali sistem u smislu registra glasaca i provere igleda jeste prilicno busan.

 

Ovo je "debunking" Djulijanijeve tvrdnje da je glasao deda Vila Smita. Procenite sami koliko je ubedljivo.

 

https://www.thefocus.news/celebrity/will-smiths-grandfather-vote/

 

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Did Will Smith’s grandfather vote?

Politifact have stated that “Some may be dead, but there’s no evidence that the state counted any ballots cast by deceased voters. Others may be old, but there’s no law establishing an age limit on voting.”

They also confirmed that “The state also checks to ensure that ballots cast by people who are deceased are not counted. In the August primary, the state successfully identified ballots cast by 846 people who had passed away between casting their ballot and the election.” 

 

Therefore, although it is unclear whether ballots with the name of Will Smith’s father, or grandfather, were submitted this election, it is unlikely that these votes would have been counted if the ballots made it to be processed.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, precog said:

kapiram da ima stotine hiljada undead glasaca koji glasaju za demonkrate. 

 

Nema. Mrtvi, kao matoriji, verovatno glasaju i za republikance. Kao sto rekoh nema evidencije da je bilo sistematskog glasanja mrtvih za jedne ili druge, ali na osnovu neubeldjivih demantija se cini da mrtvi jesu glasali i da je biracki spisak, zvuci poznato, malcice zaribao.

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16 minutes ago, Budja said:

 

Nema. Mrtvi, kao matoriji, verovatno glasaju i za republikance. Kao sto rekoh nema evidencije da je bilo sistematskog glasanja mrtvih za jedne ili druge, ali na osnovu neubeldjivih demantija se cini da mrtvi jesu glasali i da je biracki spisak, zvuci poznato, malcice zaribao.

 

Pa to, ali to valjda uvek ide na dusu one strane koja je do izbora vladala. Imali su resurse i mogućnosti da organiziraju izbore.

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1 hour ago, Budja said:

Dakle, ipak sistem dopusta da mrtvi glasaju. Ne verujem da je to nesto promenilo, ali sistem u smislu registra glasaca i provere igleda jeste prilicno busan.

 

Ovo je "debunking" Djulijanijeve tvrdnje da je glasao deda Vila Smita. Procenite sami koliko je ubedljivo.

 

https://www.thefocus.news/celebrity/will-smiths-grandfather-vote/

 

 

 

 

 

pa naravno da uvek postoji odredjen procenat ljudi koji umru u periodu od glasanja do izbora sto tu i pise.

sta je tu onda busno i kako to mrtvi glasaju?

treba valjda pioniri da obilaze bake i deke svaki dan i da se uvere da su zivi?

u stvari glasove tih koji su glasali pa umrli pre izbora bi trebalo racunati.

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, 3opge said:

 

 

pa naravno da uvek postoji odredjen procenat ljudi koji umru u periodu od glasanja do izbora sto tu i pise.

sta je tu onda busno i kako to mrtvi glasaju?

treba valjda pioniri da obilaze bake i deke svaki dan i da se uvere da su zivi?

u stvari glasove tih koji su glasali pa umrli pre izbora bi trebalo racunati.

 

 

 

 

 

Sincic i cerka prime  pismo, glasaju, potpisu i posalju ga.

Ovi u izbornoj komisiji onda treba da vide da li je tu nesto sumnjivo i da sravnjuju svaki individualni slucaj sa registrom umrlih, onako odokativno.

Deluje da nema sistematske provere ko glasa nego, eto, kako im se ucini. To sto su identifikovali u proslim izborima 846 umrlih ne znaci da su identifikovali sve umrle koji su glasali.

Clanak nema referencu na neki ustanovljeni kontrolni proces vec na judgement personala koji utvrdjuje volju glasaca.

 

 

Kada je glasanje licno, onda taj problem izmedju sravnjenog registra i cina glasanje ne postoji, jer moras javno da se pojavis sa nekim licnim dokumentom.

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1 minute ago, Budja said:

 

Sincic i cerka prime  pismo, glasaju, potpisu i posalju ga.

Ovi u izbornoj komisiji onda treba da vide da li je tu nesto sumnjivo i da sravnjuju svaki individualni slucaj sa registrom umrlih, onako odokativno.

Deluje da nema sistematske provere ko glasa nego, eto, kako im se ucini. To sto su identifikovali u proslim izborima 846 umrlih ne znaci da su identifikovali sve umrle koji su glasali.

Clanak nema referencu na neki ustanovljeni kontrolni proces vec na judgement personala koji utvrdjuje volju glasaca.

 

 

Kada je glasanje licno, onda taj problem izmedju sravnjenog registra i cina glasanje ne postoji, jer moras javno da se pojavis sa nekim licnim dokumentom.

 

potpuno je zanemarljiv broj takvih slucajeva, to su btw namerne prevare koje su kaznjive pa ako hoces da varas izvoli. 

samo glasanje nikada nije bilo 100% in person, uvek su postojali absentee ballots.

 

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