Filipenko Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) Niko nije ni rekao da si njemu direktno rekao da ne treba da priča, već si odmah pokrenuo priču o relativnoj beznadežnosti emisije Insajder u globalu (da je otišao samo predsednik FSS, malo li je?), izuzetno hrabre i značajne emisije, koja opet sama po sebi nije namenjena kao dokazivanje istražnim organima, već otvaranju oči ljudi. Sama činjenica da si odmah udario u relativizaciju svega, makar ta emisija imala samo edukativni (kao što i ima), a ne i goneći i/ili pravosudni karakter dovoljno govori o tvom karakteru. Naravno, to te ne sprečava da Širiš dalje i deklarativno se zalažeš za pročišćenje svega, sve dok si daleko i to ne udara na tvoj divan optimistički pogled na svet.***Ne mogu da smislim rečenicu kojom bih izrazio prezir prema ovom događaju i onome što dolazi odozdo u naš fudbal. Edited May 28, 2008 by teacher ***
Musharaf Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) filipenko, preporučujem ti da od sada neko pre tebe proba ćevape u oožicoo. Edited May 28, 2008 by Larko
savindan Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 O emisiji sam tek posle 3-4. epizode napisao da se ništa bitno neće promeniti posle serijala i pokazalo se da sam bio sasvim u pravu.Ратко Бутуровић и још пар из Војводине, Звездан Терзић, Џаја, од дрипаца из Хумске нажалост ниједан...Za to vreme većina se naslađivala i tipovala koliko će mafijaša završiti na doživotnoj robiji.Мислим да је већ тад Инсајдер оправдао трошкове продукције и утрошено време...Ti nikada nećeš uspeti da rešiš nijedan veliki društveni problem i toga moraš biti svestan.Нетачно ал ајде, баш и није тема.Niko ti ne brani da pokušavaš (neke svoje zablude moraš sam prevazilaziti) ali ne preko leđa drugih, apsolutno nevinih ljudi.Ко је у целој причи невин, оптужени или приведени у акцији МУП након емитовања емисије? Српски фудбал који је оклеветан? Поштени љубитељи фудбала и навијачи? Власници кладионица којима је смањен профит?
savindan Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) Преводим за писмо AIIndikativno saopstenje policije (naslov)Saopstenje Uprave policije Crne Gore u vezi fizickog napada na novinara Mladena Stojovica sadrži notorne neistine. Prva neistina je da je Mladen Stojovic u tom napadu zadobio lakše tjelesne povrede iako je nedvosmisleno konstatovan prelomgornje i donje vilice, a obraz mu je probijen pri čemu je slomljen korijen zuba koji se nalazi na pravcu uboda. Prisutne su brojne ogrebotine na tijelu i podlivi ispod oba oka. Zbog svega toga Stojović je upućen na operaciju u KBC Podgorica koja će se obaviti 29. maja.Indikativno je i zabrinjavajuće da se u saopštenju Upave policije navodi da Stojović nije izražavao zabrinutost za lčnu bezbjednst što je flagrantna neistina. Bio sam prisutan dok je davao izjavu u stanici policije u Baru, kada je Mladen upitao ?da li mu je ugrožena lična bezbjednost?. Od strane inspektora Magdelinića dobio je odgovor ?sam je ugrožavaš?. Inspektor Magdelinić je tom prilikom konstatovao i da je Mladen povrede mogao da zaradi u padu, ali jedino sa zgrade. Medicinsko osoblje je takođe nedvosmisleno odbacilo sumnju da se radi o spontanom padu usled gubitka svijesti.Iz razgovora sa Mladenom, saznao sam da su mu inspektori danas, nakon saopštenja Uprave policije saopštili da nema mjesta sumnji da je fizički napadnut. Inače, ubod koji je dobio u donji dio obraza, vjerovatno bi bio smrtnonosan da je bio dva santimetra niži.Najoštrije protestujem protiv gnusne podmetačine u režiji dnevnika Republika po kojoj je Mladen navodno izjavio da boluje od epilepsije. On nikada nije imao simptome epilepsije, niti bilo koje druge hronične i ozbiljne bolesti. Predoperativni nalazi u KC Cna Gora su to takođe potvrdili. Nakon ovakve konstrukcije, inače svojstvene za dnevni list Republika, strah za Mladenovu ličnu bezbjednost je potpuno opravdan. Jasno je da vijest pomenutog dnevnika služi da bi se događaj zataškao i obeshrabrio svaki pojedinac koji javno govori istinu.Gojko Raičević Edited May 28, 2008 by savindan
savindan Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 In the evening of Friday, May 28, 2008, around midnight, Mladen Stojovic, a sports journalist, was admitted to the ER in Bar, Montenegro. He had suffered numerous wounds to the head the causes of which are yet to be determined.An orto-rhino-laryngologist and maxillo-facial surgeon diagnosed a fracture of the upper and lower jawbone, a puncture wound through the cheek as well as a broken tooth root, scarring around the eyes, Adam?s apple, on the nose, elbows, shoulders and knees.The circumstances surrounding the cause of the wounds are yet to be determined; a particular difficulty presents the fact that Stojovic has no recollection of the event.His sister confirmed that Mladen called her around 11:20 PM in a confusing and inarticulate manner, saying he was wounded. She immediately dialled emergency. However, Stojovic neither remembers the moment of arrival of the emergency team nor the intervention that ensued.The first clearer memories appear at 2 AM, during his examinations in the Bar city hospital. A neuro-psychiatric and general examination excluded the possibility of the wounds being caused by a fall from losing consciousness.A specialized examination discovered a puncture wound going through the cheek towards the neck that was caused by an object slightly larger than a needle. The medical report gives a detailed account of the wound and leaves the cause to be determined. The trajectory of the puncture fractured a tooth root.This event has caused particular concern because of the fact that Stojovic was one of the interviewees in the documentary ?Insajder? (Insider) on Serbian TV B92, dealing with the link between professional football (soccer) and the criminal underworld. Stojovic?s accounts were mostly used during the second episode that dealt with Montenegro.As a long serving sports journalist in the dailies ?Danas? (Belgrade, Serbia) and ?Vijesti? (Podgorica, Montenegro), Stojovic has numerous times distinctly pointed out the problem of match-rigging and the influence of criminal structures on national football (soccer). His first text on the issue was in 1998, following a match between FC Sutjeska (Niksic, Montenegro) and FC Obilic (Belgrade, Serbia), then headed by the late Zeljko Raznatovic Arkan.In his interview for ?Insajder?, Stojovic did not hesitate to name names connected to a wider criminal web in sporta. He also spoke on the details concerning the management reversals in the Football Association of the FRYugoslavia (Serbia-Montenegro) in 2000-2001, particularly the assassination of the Association?s General Secretary Branko Bulatovic.This incident occurred just a few days prior to the grim 4th anniversary of the assassination of Dusko Jovanovic, chief editor of the Podgorica daily DAN. Accounds of the attack on Stojovic were leaked to the press on the eve of the anniversary. However, what is more troubling is the fact that the Montenegrin Police press statement, read by spokeswoman Tamara Popovic, contained several fallacies that were immediately countered by Stojovic himself as well as his friend, Gojko Raicevic, a witness to the police taking Stojovic?s statement.The first fallacy was pertaining to the nature of the wounds that were judged by the police press statement as ?light? despite their severity and the neuro-psychiatrist?s characterization of the puncture as an attempted murder (the result of which would have been fatal had it been two centimetres lower). Furthermore, Stojovic is scheduled for surgery on May 29.The second fallacy was to the claim that Stojovic had not officially requested any police protection. Raicevic has supported Stojovic?s claim that officer Magdelinic answered Stojovic?s question regarding his personal security that the journalist ?endangered his own personal security?. The police responded four days later, with no suspects in custody, that they had just received an official request for protection from the victim.The third fallacy in the police press report was to claim a possibility of the wounds having occurred from a fall, following loss of consciousness. Officer Magdelinic rebuffed this possibility, according to Stojovic and Raicevic, determining that only a fall from several stories high could have caused such wounds.A fourth fallacy was presented in a short newsbrief in the Podgorica daily ?Republika?, close to the governing coalition. It claimed that Stojovic was suffering from epilepsy, which he denies ever having been diagnosed with it or claiming as such in any statement.Given all of these facts, Montenegro?s grim history and statistics concerning violent and fatal attacks on journalists, there is ground for worry concerning Stojovic?s personal safety. We therefore judge it imperative for all international bodies to call on the Government of Montenegro to accord Stojovic his due police protection as well as work on the expedient arrest and prosecution of those responsible for this heinous crime that has already been vehemently condemned by all local journalist associations.
assignment Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Sta se desava sa Batom Kan - Kan - - Prdekan ? Jel ce biti neke optuzbe, sudjenja, anything?
DarkAttraktor Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Insajder je Sablja srpskog fudbala !nedajmo da se njegov legat zaboravi ili na bilo kakav nacin relativizuje !Filipenko samuraju, cuvaru vatre, samo tako - nedaj se omesti !
TheBigFlegma Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Insajder je Sablja srpskog fudbala !nedajmo da se njegov legat zaboravi ili na bilo kakav nacin relativizuje !Filipenko samuraju, cuvaru vatre, samo tako - nedaj se omesti !Pravopis je govno.
Goksi Posted May 30, 2008 Author Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) Potpuno nevezano za trenutnu raspravu sa filipenkom (iako je potpuno u pravu) ako je iko ovde lažov to si onda ti savezniče. Prosipaš ovde pamet ispljuvavajući postove jedne te iste sadržine i po pola godine i onda kada ti neko posle izvesnog vremena skrene pažnju na to (hint Insajder, Branimir Bajić aka veličanje nekog iz partiyana, MVP marinković) nastavljaš sa još gorim tonom nazivajući dotičnog lažovom. Više ni jednu jedinu rečenicu ne mogu da smislim kojom bih izrazio najdublji prezir koji osećam prema tvojim postovima i tvom načinu razmišljanja. Toliko si puta već slagao, nestajao na po par meseci nakon propasti sopstvenih teorija i laži da to već postaje zabrinjavajuće za jednog ozbiljnog čoveka, kakvog sebe predstavljaš na forumu. Edited May 30, 2008 by Goksi
saveznik Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) Potpuno nevezano za trenutnu raspravu sa filipenkom (iako je potpuno u pravu) ako je iko ovde lažov to si onda ti savezniče. Prosipaš ovde pamet... Toliko si puta već slagao...Neko pametan je rekao: "Kad čovek želi da bude iskren, dešava se da malčice slaže".Naravno, ovo nema nikakve veze sa mojim pisanjem na Forumu jer nemam nikakvu ambiciju da budem iskren. Pobogu, pišemo anonimno na forumu i zašto bismo postavljali nekakva ograničenja, osim onih gore 10 pravila. Ne želim nikoga da facsiniram, ne želim da prosipam pamet (ne dam svoje biserje), ne želim da budem merilo za savršenu istinu, ne želim nikome da namećem svoje stavove... Samo želim da se dooobro zabavim razmenjujući razmišljanja i niske udarce (ako je neophodno), ali uvek u granicama pristojnosti i gore već pomenutih 10 pravila.Ali ne pristajem da mi se spočitava nešto što nikada nisam tvrdio ni napisao. A što se velikog B. Bajića tiče, neko voli Moreiru, neko voli čak i Žigića, a ja, eto, najviše volim tamo neke marginalce koji pošteno odrađuju svoje ugovore. I moje je legitimno pravo da to napišem. Zašto to nekome smeta?A što se tiče prognoza glede Partizana i njegovih igrača i rezultata, tu sam svakako neobjektivan kao i svi navijači na Forumu. I uvek ću biti. Marinković sticajem okolnosti nije postao MVP, ali ja tu ništa nisam slagao (baš nikada ne lažem, osim kad se zahebavam). I da stavimo tačku. Ima ovde gore u odgovoru Gavranenku poziv da mi se navede konkretan post oko insajdersko-mafijaških zabluda i napustiću Forum. Edited May 30, 2008 by saveznik
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