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Coronavirus: Briton, 21, with no pre-existing health conditions dies after contracting COVID-19

Chloe Middleton's family has urged people to take coronavirus seriously after the young woman died.

A 21-year-old woman is believed to be the youngest person with no pre-existing health conditions to have died after contracting coronavirus in the UK.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-briton-21-with-no-existing-health-conditions-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-11963451

Edited March 25, 2020 by vememah

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Španci prešli Kineze po broju umrlih. To znači da imaju 31x više umrlih na milion stanovnika od Kine.

 

 

Edited March 25, 2020 by vememah

[Time Crisis]

17 minutes ago, vememah said:

Španci prešli Kineze po broju umrlih. To znači da imaju 31x više umrlih na milion stanovnika od Kine.

 

 

Pod uslovom da se veruje kineskim zvaničnim brojevima

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Suptilne Ruje na putu za Bergamo

 

 

[vememah]

13 minutes ago, Time Crisis said:

Pod uslovom da se veruje kineskim zvaničnim brojevima

I španskim.

 

 

Edited March 25, 2020 by vememah

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Lombardija ispod 300, znači biće solidan pad u Italiji danas. 

[vememah]

To je smanjenje dnevnog broja umrlih od 26% u odnosu na juče.

 

Edited March 25, 2020 by vememah

[Frank Pembleton]

To je smanjenje dnevnog broja umrlih od 26% u odnosu na juče.
 

Uhhh nadamo se padu...



... Shiit has hit the fan...

[vememah]

 Broj novozaraženih je izgleda pao za 13%.

 

 

[Krošek]

brzi smo od engleza

 

[shanahan14]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Ovo bi bio game changer.

Edited March 25, 2020 by shanahan14

[vememah]

SVIJET

PRAVA ISTINA

Procurio tajni izvještaj koji otkriva da je broj oboljelih u Kini puno veći od službenog, iz toga je proizišao čitav niz opasnih posljedica

PIŠE MARINA KARLOVIĆ SABOLIĆ

25. ožujka 2020. - 16:16

Kinezi su nam, čini se, ipak nešto sakrili.

Prvi su uspjeli suzbiti epidemiju kronavirusa. Prvi su strogim mjerama ograničili kretanje, a time i širenje virusa. Prvi su brzinskom izgradnjom montažnih bolnica pokazali da se bez opsežnih zdravstvenih mjera ova bitka ne može dobiti. Prvi su, na koncu, svijetu odaslali opsežne statističke podatke iz kojih se vidi koga, kako i sa kojim posljedicama COVID-19 napada.

No, što ako su u svemu tome nešto ipak zatajili? Što ako su namjerno umanjili broj oboljelih? I što ako brojke na koje se oslanjaju sve epidemijom zahvaćene zemlje zapravo – nisu točne?

Tajni izvještaj kineskih vlasti, koji je ovih dana objavio South China Morning post, otkriva da je u Kini od koronavirusa oboljelo puno više ljudi nego što to prikazuju službene brojke.

Od svih ukupno testiranih do konca veljače, njih više od 43 tisuće bilo je pozitivno na COVID-19 iako  nisu imali nikakve simptome. Izrečena im je mjera samoizolacije. Ti tzv. asimptomatični bolesnici uopće nisu uključeni u službene, javno objavljene statistike. Neki od njih su u roku koji je varirao od pet dana do tri tjedna razvili simptome. No većina nije. Kineske vlasti procjenjuju da je takvih trećina.

U čemu je zapravo „kvaka“?

Svjetska zdravstvena organizacija napravila je klasifikaciju u kojoj sve koji su bili pozitivni na testu – bez obzira imaju li ili ne simptome - ubraja u zaražene. Takav standard primjenjuje se u Europi, SAD-u, Južnoj Koreji… No kineska vlada je početkom veljače odustala od takve klasifikacije. I nastavila kao zaražene brojati samo ljude kod kojih su se razvili simptomi. Registriravši tako samo 1 do 3 posto asimptomatičnig bolesnika. Do 11. veljače od 44 672 bilo je samo 889.

To je navelo Svjetsku zdravstvenu organizaciju da objavi da su zaraženi kod kojih se nisu pojavili nikakvi simptomi „izuzetno rijetki“.  Iz jednostavnog razloga što su službene statistike to sugerirale.

Takav zaključak imao je nekoliko izravnih, možda i katastrofalnih posljedica po daljnje širenje virusa po svijetu.

Pri čemu umanjivanje broja oboljelih u Kini - od 81 tisuću službeno registriranih do 120 tisuća stvarnih - i nije najgora stvar koja je iz ovog zataškavanja proizašla.

Kada se epidemija počela širiti svijetom, zemlje koje su se s njom suočile potpuno su zanemarile zaražene osobe koje nisu pokazivale nikakve simptome. Ljudima su u zračnim lukama mjerile temperaturu. Tko je nije imao puštan je u zemlju. Da su znali da trećina zaraženih nema nikakvih simptoma, a da su istovremeno širitelji virusa, vjerojatno bi se ponašali potpuno drukčije prema epidemiji koja je do ovoga trenutka usmrtila gotovo 20 tisuća ljudi.  

Prevaru su prvi uočili Japanci. Oni su testirali svoje državljane pristigle iz epicentra epidemije u Wuhanu. Točno 30,8 posto onih koji su bili pozitivni nisu imali nikakve simptome. Potom je statistika u Južnoj Koreji pokazala da je kod njih ta stopa prešla 20 posto. Iako su podaci Svjetske zdravstvene organizacije govorili potpuno suprotno. Da su asimptomatski bolesnici minorni i da njihova uloga u širenju epidemije nije ključna.

Sada se, nakon svega, nameće jedno važno pitanje. Je li ovo jedina stvar u kojoj su nam Kinezi lagali?

https://slobodnadalmacija.hr/vijesti/svijet/procurio-tajni-izvjestaj-koji-otkriva-da-je-broj-oboljelih-puno-u-kini-veci-od-sluzbenog-iz-toga-je-proizasao-citav-niz-opasnih-posljedica-1011746

 

Originalni članak na engleskom:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3076323/third-coronavirus-cases-may-be-silent-carriers-classified

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 john kemp, reutersov analitičar u jednom delu današnjeg emaila razmatra otvaranje ekonomije ruku pod ruku sa social distancing

 

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OUTPUT LOSSES
 
Some essential services, including healthcare, utilities, payments, and food and fuel distribution, are expected to continue as normal even during the pandemic.
 
Manufacturers of essential food and energy items are also expected to maintain output under business continuity plans.
 
But other services and manufacturing are likely to be at least somewhat disrupted by social-distancing, including professional services, accounting, banking, education, entertainment and non-food, non-energy manufacturing.
 
And some become virtually impossible, including many in-person services such as hairdressing, travel, leisure, tourism, passenger aviation and non-food retail.
 
The impact on industries such as construction, mining, non-essential manufacturing and non-essential public services remains ambiguous but serious disruption is likely.
 
Many of cannot fully shift to working from home under policies requiring workers to quarantine or shelter in place.
 
Disrupted or impossible activities account for more than half of all employment in an advanced economy like the United States (“Employment situation summary”, Bureau of Labor Statistics”, March 6).
 
Impacted activities also account for a very large share of value-added and gross domestic production, although the relationship between sectoral employment and value-added is complicated.
 
Stringent social-distancing therefore imposes a large cost in terms of items not manufactured and services not provided.
 
Some but not all the lost production may be caught up, but many losses will prove permanent.
 
The more stringent the social-distancing and the longer it is maintained the larger the economic losses (“Coronavirus confronts decision-makers with a terrible trade off”, Reuters, March 18).
 
TERRIBLE TRADE OFF
 
Governments are now trying to navigate the appalling trade off between extreme social distancing to save lives and maintaining as much business activity as possible to minimise the economic cost.
 
Most though not all epidemiologists have pressed for more social distancing to save as many lives as possible. Most though not all business leaders have pushed to maintain or re-open at least some business activities.
 
Unsurprisingly, voters, employees and politicians have vacillated between reducing social contact and trying to protect jobs and incomes and avoid wholesale business failures.
 
Every country is trying to find its own optimisation between maximising social distancing subject with the need to keep as much of the economy functioning as possible.
 
Italy, which has had among the most severe social distancing measures, is struggling to keep at least some of the economy moving (“Europe faces coronavirus choice: to close economy or not”, Financial Times, March 25).
 
Sweden, at the other extreme, has tried to maintain as much normal activity as possible while pushing for more social distancing (“Sweden bucks global trend with experimental virus strategy”, Financial Times, March 25).
 
Britain started with a business as usual approach, shifted to a relatively strict form of social distancing, and now seems to be trying to work out how to keep as many businesses functioning as possible.
 
In the United States, the approach appears contradictory and confused, with some states and cities imposing lockdowns while others do not.
 
U.S. President Donald Trump has advocated social distancing while resuming normal business, insisting “We can do two things together” in a March 24 message on Twitter.
 
In France, a strict social-distancer, President Emmanuel Macron has nonetheless said “We have to continue to produce and to keep the country running”.
 
Like China before, and probably the United States after, Europe is trying to keep as much business operating as possible.
 
Various options are possible. One is to alternate periods of greater social distancing with periods of more normal business, as modelled by the Imperial College study, though such policies would still be hugely disruptive.
 
Another is to divide the population between more vulnerable groups (encouraged to remain isolated) and less vulnerable ones (encouraged to resume normal operations) and somehow limit contact between the two.
 
Or policymakers could find ways to fine tune social distancing to permit as many businesses to operate as near-normally as possible while encouraging others to isolate.
 
But the choice is not between saving lives and keeping the economy moving – policymakers must find a way to do both.

 

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