cedo Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 to bi trebalo reci kinezima ... oni su onda skroz omanuli
vememah Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, keitel said: Logično je da usporavaju ali u kojoj mjeri? Da li pričamo o procentima ili promilima? Vidi ovako, jedina zemlja koja se jedina gotovo potpuno izborila sa virusom je Kina i tamo su tražili (i još uvek traže!) da svi nose maske i vraćali ljude koji ih ne nose s ulica. Dakle, oni misle da značajno utiče pošto u suprotnom ne bi to tražili. A i onaj šef misije iz SZO kaže da su to osnovne stvari. leader of the World Health Organization team that visited China, Dr. Bruce Aylward: Quote First, you have to make sure everyone knows the basics: hand-washing, masks, not shaking hands, what the symptoms are. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/health/coronavirus-china-aylward.html Edited March 19, 2020 by vememah
3opge Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 nece biti uopste "oslabljen" nego bi trebalo da se povuce tamo gde inace postoji i kad nije pandemija. virus nema sta da bude "oslabljen", on nije zivo bice.
Joe D Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 jel oslabi kod onih koji u prelezali, ili kod generalne polpulacije?
vememah Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Tresko said: Evo još jednom: Virus je dimenzija otprilike 0,130 mikron metara. Maska FFP3, filtrira 0,030 mikron metara. I ima efekta. Sve ispod nema efekta(FFP2, N95, one hiruške). Te druge ispod imaju koristi samo za ljude koji su već zaraženi da "skrate" domet aerosola. Evo tebi još jednom, virus se ne prenosi vazduhom već kapljično tako da veličina samog virusa nije bitna, već veličina kapljica, a kapljice su mnogo veće od toga što ti navodiš. I svaka maska štiti u izvesnoj meri, najbolje bi bilo kad bi svi nosili makar hirurške maske, šalove ili marame preko ustiju i nosa pošto bi svakako smanjili prenos ka drugima, a donekle i sebe zaštitili. Quote In 2008, Makison Booth set out to discover to what extent surgical masks could protect wearers. She hooked up one of her dummies to a resuscitation machine, “so it breathed”, she says. She then sealed it in a cabinet and sprayed tiny airborne droplets – a simulated sneeze – containing influenza at it while it wore a series of protective masks. Different designs of surgical mask were tested, including the standard strip of fabric, a duck-bill-shaped one and a 3D moulded one. “They conferred a low level of protection to the wearer,” she says, diplomatically. The virus was found inside all the masks, but they had provided something like a six-fold decrease in the amount of virus exposure. ... Makison Booth also tested disposable filtering facepiece (FFP) respirators. They are designed to filter tiny particulates, and are recommended in the UK for professionals working under possible exposure to airborne diseases. These provided 100 times more protection than going barefaced. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/31/our-face-mask-future-do-they-really-help-beat-flu-coronavirus-and-pollution Edited March 19, 2020 by vememah
vememah Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Izvor su zvanične preporuke za zaštitu kineskog centra za kontrolu i prevenciju bolesti (China CDC), strana 8: http://www.chinacdc.cn/en/COVID19/202002/P020200310326809462942.pdf Edited March 19, 2020 by vememah
Tresko Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, vememah said: Evo tebi još jednom, virus se ne prenosi vazduhom već kapljično tako da veličina samog virusa nije bitna, već veličina kapljica, a kapljice su mnogo veće od toga što ti navodiš. I svaka maska štiti u izvesnoj meri, najbolje bi bilo kad bi svi nosili makar hirurške maske, šalove ili marame preko ustiju i nosa pošto bi svakako smanjili prenos ka drugima, a donekle i sebe zaštitili. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/31/our-face-mask-future-do-they-really-help-beat-flu-coronavirus-and-pollution Nemam nameru da se bavim tvojim omiljenim sportom-nadgornjavanjem, u ovom slučaju još i besmislenim. Tako da, radi šta god hoćeš-nosi masku, ne nosi, šta god.
beeva Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 na ulayu u BIH, Gradiska, vojska dovezla šatore i 150 kreveta gdje ce ove povratnike trpati. Samo ne kapiram jel svi idu u šatore pošto po toj logici i zdravi i bolesni idu pod jedan krov. Cijenim da je više pokazna vježba da se budući povratnici isprepadaju.
Krošek Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, cedo said: to bi trebalo reci kinezima ... oni su onda skroz omanuli neki amerikanci su davno rekli tako...da kina nece steci herd immunity, a ostatak sveta hoce, da oni samo odlazu los scenario, da je ovo prirodni dogadjaj, da ima svoj tok i da se ne moze protiv prirode. jedino da se odseku od sveta, zamandale granice zauvek itd. ali kina je kina, a price su price. posle svega ovoga mozemo biti sigurni da njihova dugorocna strategija nije gora od ... americke
Dankan Ajdaho Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Krošek said: neki amerikanci su davno rekli tako...da kina nece steci herd immunity, a ostatak sveta hoce, da oni samo odlazu los scenario, da je ovo prirodni dogadjaj, da ima svoj tok i da se ne moze protiv prirode. jedino da se odseku od sveta, zamandale granice zauvek itd. ali kina je kina, a price su price. posle svega ovoga mozemo biti sigurni da njihova dugorocna strategija nije gora od ... americke Kupovina vremena do leka/vakcine.
Lo Zingaro Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 U Italiji danas umrla jos 3 lekara sto ukupno cini 10 preminulih.
Sludge Factory Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Kako hladnoca deluje na koronu? Najavljuje se mraz za neki dan.
omiljeni Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 On 18.3.2020. at 10:01, iDemo said: Evo zasto: https://www.sciencealert.com/who-recommends-to-avoid-taking-ibuprofen-for-covid-19-symptoms/amp i dalje nema ništa
Dankan Ajdaho Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Sludge Factory said: Kako hladnoca deluje na koronu? Najavljuje se mraz za neki dan. Neko je već ovde napisao da joj ne smeta.
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