Coronavirus Covid-19 - opšta tema

[Redoran]

6 minutes ago, Arkadija said:

 

 

Za Spaniju? Stvarno? Jel i tamo zaključavanje?

 

Mislim da još nije zvanično počelo ali objavili su da ga uvode. Isto sam pročitao pre par sati za Bugarsku i još jednu zemlju, zaboravih koju. Više se ne koristi izraz "lockdown" nego "state of emergency", dakle pravo vanredno stanje.

[Haralampije]

 

[*edited by mod]

U Beogradu, privatna. Nista neuobucajeno, cuo sam da je dosta it firmi isto uradilo

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Istina, I kod mene je to slučaj globalno u firmi i to do kraja marta. A koliko vidim većina domaćih IT firmi je slično uradila do daljnjeg.

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[pasha]

3 minutes ago, Haralampije said:

 

 

Kako obican covek da reaguje kada vidi coveka koji ima pristup obavestajnim podacima da to radi?

Sta kaze covek.

Edited March 13, 2020 by pasha

[James Marshall]

Pa taj ne može da pročita Matarela, a kamoli neki teži izvještaj. 

[morgana]

u cg zabranjeni javni skupovi i zatvorene skole, jedniom roditelju djece do 11 g placeno odsustvo sa posla

Edited March 13, 2020 by morgana

[Lancia]

U Spaniji proglaseno v.stanje na 15 dana, niko btw, nema pojma koje ce se mere sprovoditi, jer je svakom autonomnom delu izgleda ostavljena sloboda u izboru mera. Prilicno konfuzno. Na kanarima se od jutros suska, da ce biti zatvoreni svi ugostiteljski objekti.

Inace 62 zemlje su sprovele odredjen vid  mera prema putnicima koji dolaze iz Spanije, Srbije nema medju njima.

[napadaj]

Nemačka i Švajcarska zatvorile škole

[Nikodije]

e kad su njegovi nemacki idoli zatvorili, sada moze i psiho.

[Ravanelli]

 

 

 

[pasha]

11 minutes ago, Lancia said:

U Spaniji proglaseno v.stanje na 15 dana, niko btw, nema pojma koje ce se mere sprovoditi, jer je svakom autonomnom delu izgleda ostavljena sloboda u izboru mera. Prilicno konfuzno. Na kanarima se od jutros suska, da ce biti zatvoreni svi ugostiteljski objekti.

Inace 62 zemlje su sprovele odredjen vid  mera prema putnicima koji dolaze iz Spanije, Srbije nema medju njima.

 

Najvaznije je ograniciti masovno kretanje ljudi. Ljudi mogu da idu ali da se ne prave guzve i naravno svi moraju da se pridrzavaju propisanih pravila tipa maski, rukavica itd. Zaboravih, nocu se ogranicava kretanje.

Tako su radili u Kini i to je sprecilo sirenje.

Edited March 13, 2020 by pasha

[Budja]

7 hours ago, Ivo Petović said:

 

Koji si ti lik, to je neverovatno, morao sam da se uključim. Naravno, nisi jedini, ovaj topik je, koliko god sjajan i informativan, pravo malo blago da se, naravno zabrinuto, u poneki post ubaci svoja anti-EU, antiliberalna, prototalitarci agenda.

Smetaju ti liberali koji se žale, a ne smeta ti:

 

1) Što retardirani babun u živom obraćanju naciji nije mogao da pročita tekst sa telepromptera, pa je tako  rekao da se zabrana odnosi i na kargo i izazvao haos, da bi morali posle da "pojašnjavaju" iz WH šta je predsednik hteo da kaže.

2) Što nije rekao ni od kada ni za koga važi blokada, pa su hiljade Amera u panici kupovali karte za USA i potrošili hiljade i hiljade dolara na to -  ko ih jebe, i onako samo "liberali" putuju, onaj Trampov fan iz Omahe nije ni iz svog sela izašao.

3) Što se berza skljokala nakon njegovog govora, toliko je uverljivo čitao sa telepromptera. Mislim, jebeš berzu, ali koliko se sećam, vrlo često se podaci sa iste koriste kada odgovara političkoj agendi.

4) Što u USofA imaš najmanji broj testiranja od svih značajnije pogođenih zemalja, još uvek ne mogu da se presaberu i nabave testove, kao guske bauljaju bez plana.

5) Što je ikona antiliberalizma pre par godina ukinuo agenciju za borbu protiv epidemioloških bolesti i smanjio fandinge za sve državne organe koji se bave zdravljem. Zato je vojni budžet uvećan za trilione dolara, a naftna industrija dobija subvencije. Ali ne, važan je Anderson Kuper. Sa druge strane usta puna običnog čoveka.

6) Što se zabrana ne odnosi na UK ergo je full politička, iako sam njegov pobratim žuti babun iz Londona reče juče da oni sigurno imaju 10k + zaraženih i da će mnogi umreti

7) Što je retard do pre par dana govorio da je virus smešan, da oni imaju plan, da je već zauzdan, šopinzi po Italiji i druge pičke materine. Ej, predsednik USofA.

8) Što su republikanci dolazili u Kongres sa zaštitnim maskama da bi ismevali virus i zahteve da se zdravstvu daju veće pare. Ti isti kongresmeni su sada u samoizolaciji, needless to say.

9) Što je virus u USA došao iz Kine, a ne Italije

 

Mrzelo me juče da se uključujem na one ode Kini i njenom totalitarizmu i kako zapad samo juri pare (naročito je Italija full business oriented), dok je Kini važan čovek (jbt )

Presaberite se jbt.

 

 

 

Sasvim sam sabran.

Ok su ti poente (osim oko berze, normalno je da se berza skljoka kada je sve stalo, nisu tu Tramparine reci od presudne vaznosti), samo sto te poente nisam vieo na CNNu, vec samo ovo oko cega sam pisao. Problem je sto oko ostatka tesko da postoji u konsensus u DS, pa udri na zabranu letova iz Evrope.

 

[pasha]

Izgleda da Tramp uvodi vanredno stanje u SAD.

[Redoran]

Lakijeva kazna je da dva puta dobro pročita ponovljen i dopunjen apel mod tima:

 

 

Dragi svi,

 

Situacija je očigledno alarmantna. Panika i lažne vesti će se raširiti duplo brže nego virus. Mod tim želi da održi kakav-takav kvalitet ove teme jer nam je to svima u interesu. Molimo vas da se u narednom periodu držite sledećih smernica:

 

- razmislite tri puta pre nego što linkujete neki tvit ili objavite da je neko umro.

- ako imate informacije iz prve ruke podelite ih ali naglasite da su u pitanju vaši privatni izvori.

- nemojte se radovati vestima da je neko fasovao virus, pa bio taj neko i notorni fašista.

- nemojte da se ljutite ako vaš post nastrada u brisanjima i čišćenjima koja će biti učestala i svakodnevna.

 

Ako će onaj pomahnitali imbecil koji jaše državu sad da paniči i udara okolo kao obezglavljena kokoš, ne moramo i mi. PPP treba da nam pomogne i bude nam neka vrsta mentalne terapije a ne da nam dodatno diže pritisak. Budimo dobra virtuelna ekipa kao što smo uvek bili.

 

Hvala

[James Marshall]

https://medium.com/@katestarbird/reflecting-on-the-covid-19-infodemic-as-a-crisis-informatics-researcher-ce0656fa4d0a

 

Spoiler

Collective Sensemaking during Times of Uncertainty and Anxiety

Many of us are struggling to absorb the news about the novel coronavirus, Covid-19. Lives have been lost. There are people who are gravely ill. Others have been quarantined for weeks. The disease appears to be spreading in numerous countries, including here in the United States. We are facing what may eventually be labeled as a global pandemic. And many of us are trying to figure out what actions to take to protect ourselves, our families, and our communities.

Our information feeds (from television sets, internet searches, and social media) provide continuous updates about the unfolding crisis — some of them accurate, some of them seemingly less so. Though crisis events like this one have always been times when rumors and misinformation spread, the problem seems especially acute now — with the rise of the internet, the widespread use of social media, and the pervasive politicization of just about everything.

WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus noted that we are not just fighting an epidemic, but what he called an infodemic. And indeed, there are already numerous cases of false information about the virus spreading online — sometimes intentionally, sometimes not. But perhaps worse than that, it is increasingly difficult for us to figure out which information we should trust.

As a person trying to understand the situation and make the best decisions for my family and my community, I am struggling with this myself. I have been reflecting upon the Covid-19 crisis and the parallel infodemic from two very different perspectives: as a researcher of crisis informatics and as a person living in an affected area (Seattle) with family members in vulnerable groups. There’s a tension between these different perspectives, which motivated me to write this post.

Let me give you some background. For more than a decade, I have been studying and conducting research in crisis informatics, first as a PhD student at the University of Colorado working with Leysia Palen (whose research program helped to establish this field of study) and now as a faculty member at the University of Washington with an amazing team of students and colleagues.

Crisis informatics is the study of how information flows during crisis events, especially how information flows across what we call “technology-mediated” environments like the internet and social media. It is also the study of human behavior — in other words, how people respond to crisis events. It builds from previous research in the sociology of disaster that reaches back into 1960s. And it integrates insight from the psychology of rumor, another field with a long history.

Many of the lessons from these related fields are relevant to conversations we are all having right now about Covid-19.

Crisis events such as natural disasters, industrial accidents, terrorist attacks, and emergent pandemics are often times of high uncertainty — about what is happening and what we should do about it. In these cases, there are often information voids (things we just don’t know yet). And the “facts” of the situation are dynamic. In other words, they change as new information forces us to update our understanding of what is going on.

This uncertainty feeds anxiety — about the personal and collective impacts of the event, as well about what actions we should take. What should we do? Should we travel? Should we go to work? Should we visit our parents or grandparents? Should we move them out of the elder living facility and into our home? If so, when? Is now too early? Will tomorrow be too late?

When information is uncertain and anxiety is high, the natural response for people is to try to “resolve” that uncertainty and anxiety. In other words, to figure out what is going on and what they should do about it. And so we attempt to come together — either in physical spaces or using communication tools like our phones and now our social media platforms — to “make sense” of the situation. We gather information and try to piece together an understanding, often coming up with (and sharing) our own theories of causes, impacts, and best strategies for responding. And these theories inform the decisions we make and the actions we take. Researchers talk about this activity as “collective sensemaking” and consider it a natural part of the human response to disaster — with informational and psychological benefits. I imagine most of us are participating in collective sensemaking right now.

However, the sensemaking process can also produce rumors, including rumors that turn out to be true and rumors that turn out to be false. False rumors (or misinformation) are dangerous because they can cause people to make the wrong decisions, including decisions that endanger themselves or others.

Historically, the biggest challenge for communities experiencing a crisis event was often a lack of information, especially information from official sources. In that void, people would share information with their families, friends, and neighbors, to try to make the best decisions. In the connected era, the problem isn’t a lack of information, but an overabundance of information and the challenge of figuring out which information we should trust and which information we shouldn’t trust.

This challenge increases when we lose our trust in “official” sources, such as the government agencies charged with managing the response. That is why is it so critical for those agencies to share the best information at the time (from experts), to be consistent, and to avoid the appearance of being politically partisan.

When elected leaders share dubious information and contradict their own agencies and scientists, this lowers our trust in official response agencies and reduces our ability to identify the best information at the time. These also increase uncertainty and anxiety, and potentially cause people to take actions that may be harmful to themselves or others.

Another thing that researchers have long known about crisis events is that a few people will use those events to exploit affected people and communities. In our early research (2009–2012), we saw a few cases of people intentionally spreading misinformation to solicit donations to a fake organization or just to get attention and gain some social media followers. Over time, these exploitative behaviors have grown. We now see the intentional spread of disinformation for financial and/or political gain during every crisis event, in larger and larger volumes. And Covid-19 is no different.

Unfortunately, in times of high information uncertainty and anxiety, we are particularly vulnerable to disinformation, which can take root within the collective sense-making process. And as “participants” in online information environments (as we now all are), this means we can end up both absorbing and spreading it.

Taking these lessons from crisis informatics into account, I offer a few recommendations:

First, I ask us as information participants to tune in to how our anxiety fuels information-seeking and information-sharing activities that may make us susceptible to spreading false rumors and/or disinformation. This can mean slowing down. It can mean doing a better job of vetting our sources — perhaps using the SIFT technique being pioneered by my colleague Mike Caulfield. It can also mean choosing not to share content that we’re just not sure about. And it can even mean stepping away from our feeds when we realize that they aren’t helping us to resolve the anxiety and uncertainty, but are just amplifying them. We can think about this as the “hand washing” for the infodemic accompanying the pandemic.

Second, I recommend to crisis communicators that they rely on the growing knowledge of experts (e.g. medical professionals and epidemiologists) and work to remain consistent across their agency or agencies. It is also important that they effectively communicate about the inherent uncertainty of the event and help people understand that the “facts” may change over time as we learn more.

Finally, I implore political leaders and political communicators to reflect upon how they may be contributing to the problem — by spreading misinformation and disinformation and by casting doubt on the science and recommendations of experts within our response agencies. This may have detrimental effects (both immediate and over time) on individual and collective responses to the crisis event.

Covid-19 is a public health crisis. Responding to it may require every one of us to take specific actions to protect ourselves, our loved ones, our neighbors, our communities, and society at large. To inform those actions, it’s critical that we can find (and recognize) good information that we can trust.