Coronavirus Covid-19 - opšta tema

[Amos]

Ovo isto si rekao pred Deltu

[braca]

Just now, Jozef K. said:

Znači UK, Danska i Švedska za sada. Računam da će do marta da se život vrati u normalu

 

Nisam baš siguran da omikron & rodjaci računaju isto tako... 

 

Bumo videli. Osim ako povratak u normalu ne vidiš kao svaki dan pomre 2-3 puna autobusa ljudi, pa ko pretekne...

[Jozef K.]

10 minutes ago, Mos said:

Ovo isto si rekao pred Deltu

Da, ali pre delte je delovalo da se sa vakcinacijom i sprečava prenos virusa. Izrael, UK su delovali da je sve okej i da je kraj u tom momentu. Ali ako pogledamo delta nije nešto oštetila zemlje sa visokim stepenom vakcinacije, a sada sa omikronom i dodatnim prokuživanjem zaista ne izgleda da će se ovo računati da je išta više od prehlada/grip statusa. Ostaje da se vidi da li će se preporučivati busteri, da li će se razvijati neki specijalizovani busteri, odnosno kome će se uopšte preporučiti četvrta doza, ali to su sada već tehnikalije.

Edited February 3, 2022 by Jozef K.

[Sandradjer]

1 hour ago, Jozef K. said:

Da, ali pre delte je delovalo da se sa vakcinacijom i sprečava prenos virusa. Izrael, UK su delovali da je sve okej i da je kraj u tom momentu. Ali ako pogledamo delta nije nešto oštetila zemlje sa visokim stepenom vakcinacije, a sada sa omikronom i dodatnim prokuživanjem zaista ne izgleda da će se ovo računati da je išta više od prehlada/grip statusa. Ostaje da se vidi da li će se preporučivati busteri, da li će se razvijati neki specijalizovani busteri, odnosno kome će se uopšte preporučiti četvrta doza, ali to su sada već tehnikalije.

Nadam se da ce biti tako. Uvek ostaje ono fa moze svasta da se desi 

[Dankan Ajdaho]

2 hours ago, Jozef K. said:

Znači UK, Danska i Švedska za sada. Računam da će do marta da se život vrati u normalu

 

Sve zemlje sa visokim procentom procepljenosti imaće taj luksuz.

[Sammael]

Radio danas antitela uz neke druge analize, imam 1458 tog nečega na skali gde je 50 referentna vrednost. I to 4.5 meseci nakon bustera (Sputnjik sva 3 puta). Jel mi se čini ili je to malo previsoko? Da nisam preležao u stelt modu?

[Dankan Ajdaho]

Nije previsoko.

[cedo]

su cime ces u australiju crni sammale

[Sammael]

9 minutes ago, cedo said:

su cime ces u australiju crni sammale

 

kad sam propustio prošle godine onolike grilovane koale (all you can eat), nema smisla više ni da idem

[askeladden]

7 hours ago, djeneralche said:

Stvarno? Na nekom uzorku ljudi sa kojima sam radio, 15ak, svi su prilicno liberalni a sto se politike tice, u Trampovo vreme otvoreno su ga hejtovali. Mozda privatno drugacije razmisljaju.

Inace to sto su ukinuli mere u Danskoj, oni su pre imali neke ludacke mere, na pocetku epidemije setnja oko jezera je mogla da ide samo u jednom smeru da se ne bi mesali, i svi su postovali. I dan danas se testiraju svaka tri dana.

Khm,USA slusala Jevropu uz pomoc Danske.Doduse u Obamino vreme tako da je to kul,samo da nije Trunp.Malo geto za Somalijce,malo zabranu stanovanja za vise od nekoliko porodica iz iste zemlje van geto blokova.Inace generalno kul ljudi i fine dame Danci.

Edited February 3, 2022 by askeladden

[djeneralche]

10 minutes ago, askeladden said:

Khm,USA slusala Jevropu uz pomoc Danske.Doduse u Obamino vreme tako da je to kul,samo da nije Trunp.Malo geto za Somalijce,malo zabranu stanovanja za vise od nekoliko porodica iz iste zemlje van geto blokova.Inace generalno kul ljudi i fine dame Danci.

Jesu zatvoreni ali nisu konzervativni, mada ne deluje logicno.. zato kazem da privatno mozda drugacije misle.

[NiZdr]

2 hours ago, cedo said:

su cime ces u australiju crni sammale

 

Може сад и у Аустралију.

 

 

[mackenzie]

Sad kad je već gotovo je li? Nije nikako moglo ranije da se potencira učinkovitost vitamina D? 

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-study-offers-strongest-proof-yet-of-vitamin-ds-power-to-fight-covid/

Israeli study offers strongest proof yet of vitamin D’s power to fight COVID

Bolstering previous research, scientists publish ‘remarkable’ data showing strong link between vitamin deficiency, prevalent in Israel, and death or serious illness among patients

Israel scientists say they have gathered the most convincing evidence to date that increased vitamin D levels can help COVID-19 patients reduce the risk of serious illness or death.

Researchers from Bar Ilan University and the Galilee Medical Center say that the vitamin has such a strong impact on disease severity that they can predict how people would fare if infected based on nothing more than their ages and vitamin D levels.

Lacking vitamin D significantly increases danger levels, they concluded in newly peer-reviewed research published Thursday in the journal PLOS One.

 

The study is based on research conducted during Israel’s first two waves of the virus, before vaccines were widely available, and doctors emphasized that vitamin supplements were not a substitute for vaccines, but rather a way to keep immunity levels from falling.

 

Vitamin D deficiency is endemic across the Middle East, including in Israel, where nearly four in five people are low on the vitamin, according to one study from 2011. By taking supplements before infection, though, the researchers found that patients could avoid the worst effects of the disease.

 

 

“We found it remarkable, and striking, to see the difference in the chances of becoming a severe patient when you are lacking in vitamin D compared to when you’re not,” said Dr. Amiel Dror, a Galilee Medical Center physician and Bar Ilan researcher who was part of the team behind the study.

He noted that his study was conducted pre-Omicron, but said that the coronavirus doesn’t change fundamentally enough between variants to negate vitamin D effectiveness.

“What we’re seeing when vitamin D helps people with COVID infections is a result of its effectiveness in bolstering the immune systems to deal with viral pathogens that attack the respiratory system,” he told The Times of Israel. “This is equally relevant for Omicron as it was for previous variants.”

 

Health authorities in Israel and several other countries have recommended vitamin D supplements in response to the coronavirus pandemic, though data on its effectiveness has been sparse until now.

 

 

In June, researchers published preliminary findings showing that 26 percent of coronavirus patients died if they were vitamin D deficient soon before hospitalization, compared to 3% who had normal levels of vitamin D.

They also determined that hospitalized patients who were vitamin D deficient were 14 times more likely, on average, to end up in severe or critical condition than others.

While the scientific community recognized the importance of the results, questions arose as to whether recent health conditions among the patients might have been skewing the results.

The possibility was raised that patients could have been suffering from conditions that both reduce vitamin D levels and increase vulnerability to serious illness from COVID-19, meaning the vitamin deficiency would be a symptom rather than a contributing factor in disease severity.

 

To zero out that possibility, Dror’s team delved deeper into the data, examining each of its patients’ vitamin D levels over the two-year stretch before coronavirus infection. They found that the strong correlation between sufficient vitamin D levels and ability to fight the coronavirus still held, and the level of increased danger in their preliminary findings remained almost identical.

 

 

“We checked a range of timeframes, and found that wherever you look over the two years before infection, the correlation between vitamin D and disease severity is extremely strong,” Dror said.

“Because this study gets such a good picture of patients’ vitamin D levels, by looking at a wide timeframe instead of just the time around hospitalization, it offers much stronger support than anything seen so far emphasizing the importance of boosting vitamin D levels during the pandemic,” he added.

A flood of dubious claims about natural remedies to the coronavirus, including a theory that Israelis had immunized themselves with lemons and baking soda, have left some skeptical about claims of vitamins warding off the virus.

But Dror insisted that his team’s research showed that the importance of vitamin D was not based on incomplete or flawed data.

“People should learn from this that studies pointing to the importance of taking vitamin D are very reliable, and aren’t based on skewed data,” he said. “And it emphasizes the value of everyone taking a vitamin D supplement during the pandemic, which, consumed in sensible amounts in accordance with official advice, doesn’t have any downside.”

Edited February 3, 2022 by mackenzie

[MrIncredible]

22 minutes ago, mackenzie said:

Sad kad je već gotovo je li? Nije nikako moglo ranije da se potencira učinkovitost vitamina D?

Videćemo koliko je gotovo, navijam da si u pravu. Što se tiče vitamina D, samo otvori YouTube npr i ukucaj Vitamin D Covid. Ovde neretko pominjan sestra John u maltene svakom klipu pomene uzimajte vitamin D, tako da dosta dugo se priča o tome.

[mackenzie]

12 minutes ago, MrIncredible said:

Videćemo koliko je gotovo, navijam da si u pravu. Što se tiče vitamina D, samo otvori YouTube npr i ukucaj Vitamin D Covid. Ovde neretko pominjan sestra John u maltene svakom klipu pomene uzimajte vitamin D, tako da dosta dugo se priča o tome.

 

Dosta se priča - ali na internetu, što predstavlja 0.001% informisanosti o vitaminu D i covidu u Srbiji.

Edited February 3, 2022 by mackenzie