Coronavirus Covid-19 - opšta tema

[vememah]

 

[vememah]

U Nemačkoj preminula prva osoba koja je bila zaražena omikronom. Dosad potvrđeno 3198 slučajeva od kojih je 48 (1,5%) bilo hospitalizovano. 54 slučaja (1,7%) su potvrđene reinfekcije onih koji su ranije preležali.

 

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The Robert Koch Institute (RKI) has reported the first death after infection with the Omicron variant of the coronavirus. The deceased was between 60 and 79 years old, according to the RKI's daily overview of Omicron cases. So far, 3,198 Covid 19 cases are attributed to the Omicron variant, according to the report. This corresponds to an increase in cases of 25 percent (plus 810 cases) compared to the previous day, he said.

For the data, which correspond to December 22, only cases in which detection by whole genome sequencing or laboratory diagnostic suspicion by variant-specific PCR showed infection with Omicron are counted. According to the RKI, the figures are still subject to possible corrections and subsequent changes.

Of the 3,198 Omicron cases, 48 people required hospital treatment, according to the overview. Fifty-four of the infections were reinfections, i.e. new infections with the coronavirus.

https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-rki-meldet-ersten-omikron-todesfall-in-deutschland-a-649b442e-a7c9-4dc4-80bb-285ea0ec2d72 (prevod: Deepl)

[Amos]

Biće zanimljivo, već 10 dana padaju slučajevi i incidenca u Nemačkoj (danas recimo 12k slučajeva manje nego prošli četvrtak), što znači Deltu na zalasku. Verovatno će se u prvoj nedelji januara pokazati upliv novog soja, kad se ekipa vrati sa odmora.

[barrcode]

[vememah]

Nova britanska procena omikrona:

 

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1043756/22-december-2021-risk-assessment-for-SARS_Omicron_VOC-21NOV-01_B.1.1.529.pdf

[vememah]

Nova britanska procena efektivnosti vakcina, posle deset nedelja efektivnost protiv zaražavanja i sa tri Fajzera ili dva Fajzera i Modernom pada na oko 45%, a sa dve AZ i trećim Fajzerom ili Modernom na oko 35%. Za razliku od ovoga, smatra se da efektivnost protiv teških oblika bolesti uglavnom ostaje zadržana.

 

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1043680/technical-briefing-33.pdf (strana 26)

 

Edited December 23, 2021 by vememah

[vememah]

Najmanje desetak posto omikron slučajeva su reinfekcije (moguće da ih je znatno više jer u prvim talasima gomila zaraženih nije potvrđena testiranjem), a neki su se zaražavali i po treći put ili svega 2-3 meseca posle prvog zaražavanja.

 

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9.5% of Omicron infections have been identified to have previous confirmed infections, which is likely to be a substantial underestimate of the proportion of reinfections. (...)
There were 69 identified cases with Omicron as a third episode of infection and 290 cases where the Omicron infection was between a 60 to 89 day interval after a confirmed first infection. 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1043680/technical-briefing-33.pdf (strana 4)

 

Koga zanima detaljnije, ceo niz s komentarima počinje ovim tvitom:

 

 

Edited December 23, 2021 by vememah

[Module]

Blagi kovid ne postoji. Samo simptomi mogu blagi. Posledice infekcije ne zavise od simptoma tokom akutne faze. 

 

 

SARS-CoV-2 infection and persistence throughout the human body and brain

 

"We show that SARS-CoV-2 is widely distributed, even among patients who died with asymptomatic to mild COVID-19, and that virus replication is present in multiple extrapulmonary tissues early in infection. Further, we detected SARS-CoV-2 RNA in multiple anatomic sites, including regions throughout the brain, for up to 230 days following symptom onset. Despite extensive distribution of SARS-CoV-2 in the body, we observed a paucity of inflammation or direct viral cytopathology outside of the lungs. Our data prove that SARS-CoV-2 causes systemic infection and can persist in the body for months."

 

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1139035/v1?fbclid=IwAR1TGe2mxeJe6r8XJWapMegU9BVZj6e3w-1gjaWz6Cls9aW18jw8eyvhPdY

 

 

 

 

[Dankan Ajdaho]

Znači i sa 3 mRNK vakcine zaštita pada ispod 50%. Jbg, to je zaista to, proći će kroz većinu populacije za par meseci.

[vememah]

Nekih 69% hospitalizovanih zbog omikrona u Engleskoj primilo je 2 ili 3 doze vakcine. U populaciji osobe s najmanje dve doze čine skoro 71% populacije (47,5% populacije je primilo buster i još 23,2% dve doze).

 

Nevakcinisani čine 20% hospitalizovanih zbog omikrona.

 

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1043680/technical-briefing-33.pdf (strana 23)

Edited December 23, 2021 by vememah

[Friend]

20 minutes ago, Module said:

Blagi kovid ne postoji. Samo simptomi mogu blagi. Posledice infekcije ne zavise od simptoma tokom akutne faze. 

 

 

SARS-CoV-2 infection and persistence throughout the human body and brain

 

"We show that SARS-CoV-2 is widely distributed, even among patients who died with asymptomatic to mild COVID-19, and that virus replication is present in multiple extrapulmonary tissues early in infection. Further, we detected SARS-CoV-2 RNA in multiple anatomic sites, including regions throughout the brain, for up to 230 days following symptom onset. Despite extensive distribution of SARS-CoV-2 in the body, we observed a paucity of inflammation or direct viral cytopathology outside of the lungs. Our data prove that SARS-CoV-2 causes systemic infection and can persist in the body for months."

 

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1139035/v1?fbclid=IwAR1TGe2mxeJe6r8XJWapMegU9BVZj6e3w-1gjaWz6Cls9aW18jw8eyvhPdY

 

 

 

 

Da ali za Omikron utvrdise da izmena na siljku direktno umanjuje sansu za silazak virusa do pluca.

[Jozef K.]

8 hours ago, vememah said:

Nekih 69% hospitalizovanih zbog omikrona u Engleskoj primilo je 2 ili 3 doze vakcine. U populaciji osobe s najmanje dve doze čine skoro 71% populacije (47,5% populacije je primilo buster i još 23,2% dve doze).

 

Nevakcinisani čine 20% hospitalizovanih zbog omikrona.

 

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1043680/technical-briefing-33.pdf (strana 23)

Po ovome vakcina loše radi. Buster, tako tako, ali generalno dve doze deluje da je nula. Jedina nada je da omikron definitivno ima slabiji potencijal i da je ovaj broj hospitalizovanih mali procenat u odnosu na broj zaraženih.

[vememah]

30 minutes ago, Jozef K. said:

Po ovome vakcina loše radi.

 

Ajde! Pa gore na grafičkom prikazu imaš čak da su izračunali negativnu efektivnost za 2xAZ za periode 20-24 nedelje i 25+ nedelja, a možda 1% ili 2% za 2xFajzer u periodu 20-24 nedelje. Posle 15 nedelja od davanja (što je slučaj praktično kod svih u Engleskoj, jasno je da su uzoraka za kraće periode posle druge doze znatno manje na osnovu velike širine intervala poverenja) dupla doza praktično ne štiti od zaražavanja jer je zaštita u svim slučajevima manja od 20%.

 

 

Udeo nevakcinisanih među zaraženima se dosta smanjio kod omikrona u odnosu na trenutno stanje sa deltom i u Škotskoj i u Danskoj.

 

 

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1473772696152457230

Edited December 24, 2021 by vememah

[Barti66]

Kako taj udeo nevakcinisanih shvatiti...više se čuvaju ili...?

Nisam siguran da mi je baš jasno 

[vememah]

U pitanju je poređenje za isti period. Jednostavno su vakcinisani daleko manje zaštićeni od zaražavanja nego kod delte.