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[3opge]

Elizabeth Warren

 

✔@ewarren

 

 

Bruce, Team Warren, and I are sending all our best wishes for a speedy recovery to @BernieSanders. I hope to see my friend back on the campaign trail very soon.

 

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11:15 AM - Oct 2, 2019

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[3opge]

mozda se predomisli i podrzi babu W.

[theanswer]

Ne bi trebalo da je ovo nešto ozbiljno što će da ga izbaci iz trke ali nije baš da neće imati veze. Mada imajući u vidu da su mu protiv kandidati svi 70 plus..

[Budja]

1 hour ago, theanswer said:

Ne bi trebalo da je ovo nešto ozbiljno što će da ga izbaci iz trke ali nije baš da neće imati veze. Mada imajući u vidu da su mu protiv kandidati svi 70 plus..

 

Mayor Pete je mlad.

[Ivo Petović]

Koja je uopšte razlika između Bernija i Vorenke (policy wise)?

 

Deluje mi da je Voren još levlje po nekim pitanjima tipa 2. amandman.

[theanswer]

1 minute ago, Budja said:

 

Mayor Pete je mlad.

 

Četvoro ljudi koji mogu postati predsednik: Tramp, Sanders, Bajden, Voren. 

[theanswer]

Generalno, mislim da se potcenjuje značaj ovakvih vesti, ne samo u Americi, nego generalno u svetu kada se priča o populizmu, rastu desnice itd

 

 

[Weenie Pooh]

6 hours ago, Ivo Petović said:

Koja je uopšte razlika između Bernija i Vorenke (policy wise)?

 

Deluje mi da je Voren još levlje po nekim pitanjima tipa 2. amandman.

 

Razlike su povelike, evo samo par najbitnijih:

 

1. Warren nije za Medicare for All, iako je dugo izbegavala tu temu, nego svesno mrsomudi i priča o "najnižim mogućim cenama". Prećutno se svrstava među brojne kandidate koji zagovaraju kompromisno rešenje po kom će se uvesti državno zdravstveno osiguranje, ali ne kao univerzalno i automatski zagarantovano već kao Obamin nesuđeni "public option", dakle samo jedna opcija u postojećem tržišnom modelu. (Takva reforma bila bi designed to fail jer bi država morala da apsorbuje najstarije, najsiromašnije, i najbolesnije, čije bi enormne troškove finansirala samo partitivno.)

Sanders, sa druge strane, nudi univerzalno državno zdravstveno osiguranje, direktno finansirano iz budžeta i dostupno svima. U tom sistemu bi privatnim osiguravajućim društvima bilo zabranjeno da pokrivaju bilo koju vrstu usluga koje već pokriva država, dakle efektivno se krvopijama zabranjuje da postoje. 

 

2. Warren, za razliku od Sandersa, ne odbija donacije korporativnih lobista i PAC-ova. Tačnije, kaže da te prljave pare neće uzimati u toku primaries ali će ih rado uzeti tokom generals kad bude napadala Trampa, jer ne veruje u "unilateral disarmament".

Sanders naravno odbija PAC money, još od prethodne kampanje vitla podatkom da mu je prosečna donacija $18. Predlaže javno finansiranje predizbornih kampanja kako bi se ukinuo direktan uticaj lobija.

 

Ima još razlika, student loan forgiveness itede, ali realno bi ove dve trebalo da budu dovoljne da ilustruju stanje stvari.

[Ivo Petović]

Thx.

 

Interesantno ovo za PAC money, Zar nije Wall Street skoro zapretio demokratama da će ih odjebati ako kandiduju Warrenku?

 

 

[Weenie Pooh]

Neprovereno, izašla je informacija valjda na Business Insider, ali niko ništa otvoreno nije rekao. Meni zvuči kao plasirana vest jer se trenutno gura ta ideja da su Baba & Deda praktično ista stvar pa zato glasajmo za nju.

 

Nije isključeno ni da stvarno prete, Wall Street regulation je odavno za Warren bio pitanje svih pitanja, i verujem da bi im stvarno uvela ozbiljne restrikcije ako bi bila u prilici da to uradi. Samo sumnjam da bi im baš u ovom trenutku to bilo na pameti, jer je jasno ko je revolucionarna™ opcija a ko je spreman da play ball.

 

Inače kažu da je Warren iz nekog razloga popularna među Silicon Valley ghoulovima, njihove pare joj se stabilno slivaju, dakle nije Wall St. jedini na svetu. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Weenie Pooh

[theanswer]

Taj wall street ako nije namešten onda je to sent from heaven za Warren. Mislim ko kad bi te u dem prajmariju sad napao Martin Škreli da hoćeš da sniziš cene lekova. Taj neki fazon. 

[hazard]

Dobar članak o Bajdenu i Ukrajini: https://promarket.org/trumps-impeachment-exposes-biden-familial-revolving-door/

 

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During a 2018 event sponsored by the Council of Foreign Relations, Biden recalled his role in the Ukrainian government’s decision to fire the prosecutor who was investigating the company Hunter Biden worked for:

 

“I remember going over (to Ukraine), convincing our team … that we should be providing for loan guarantees. … And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from (then Ukrainian President Petro) Poroshenko and from (then-Prime Minister Arseniy) Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor (Shokin). And they didn’t. …”

 

“They were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah… we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, ‘You have no authority. You’re not the president.’ … I said, call him. I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. … I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”

 

It’s possible that the Burisma case, as many others, had been dormant for too long, as the UK and US governments have complained. Moreover, it’s also possible (in fact, likely) that Vice President Joe Biden’s actions contributed to removing a corrupt prosecutor and to stimulating more effective anti-corruption enforcement. Yet, knowing that Vice President Biden had the power to fire a prosecutor, wouldn’t the new prosecutor be reluctant to investigate a company where his son was employed? Is this the real reason Burisma hired Hunter Biden—despite the fact that he did not have any relevant expertise? This is precisely the way in which familial revolving doors undermine public trust in institutions.  

 

The Ukraine prosecutor general, Yuri Lutsenko, told Bloomberg on May 16th that neither Joe or Hunter Biden are subject to any current investigation in Ukraine, despite the constant interest in this issue expressed by President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudolph Giuliani, which prompted the intelligence whistleblower’s complaint.

 

Joe Biden didn’t break any law, but what his behavior reflects about Washington is not reassuring.  His decisions during the Ukraine crisis not only directly impacted US foreign policy, but also the company his son was working for. He should have asked his son to step down from the Burisma board or otherwise recused himself from handling Ukraine. Not only did he fail to do so, but he seems completely unapologetic about the actions he took.

 

Treba pročitati ceo

[Micko8]

Pa Waren je u proslosti bila konzervativka sad kao omesksala i presla u demokrate to jest na levu stranu i ona je uvek voljna za vojne intervencije , lobirala je u proslosti za taj njihov vojno-industrijski kompleks ,ona je iz Hilarine skole politike.

Edited October 4, 2019 by Micko8

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[Anduril]

On 4.10.2019. at 22:48, Micko8 said:

Pa Waren je u proslosti bila konzervativka sad kao omesksala i presla u demokrate to jest na levu stranu i ona je uvek voljna za vojne intervencije , lobirala je u proslosti za taj njihov vojno-industrijski kompleks ,ona je iz Hilarine skole politike.

 

Vorenka je daleko od Hilari posto ima ozbiljnu karijeru koja se bavila zastitom prava potrosaca i kao akademik. Ona zna sistem, zna i Republikance tako da je za sada najbolje postavljena da uzme vecinu. Ako Sandersovi dalje povecaju udeo u Kongresu, naravno da ce se i agresivna americka spoljna politika morati da menja. Tako nesto ne menja jedan predsednik posto budzet kontrolise Kongres.