Trump - hoće li biti impeachment ili 8 godina drugačijeg predsednikovanja?

[MayDay]

Ogromna je šizofrenija kod Trampovih podržavalaca. Imam ja jednog čiču poznanika čiji ćale je bio višemandatni R kongresmen u neko normalnije doba, dok je ovaj čiča tea party/trump orijentisan i već neko vreme ima svoju lobističku agenciju. Ironija sudbine je da je čiča u mladosti radio kao naci hanter, a onda je s druge strane all over the place u odbrani prava na posedovanje oružja, voli miris liberalnih suza ujutro i sve tako nešto kretenski. Uglavnom, potpuno oduševljenje ovom Trampovom izjavom kod O'Rajlija i čitav elaborat o tome koliko je ubistvima civila doprinela US, pa bičevanje zbog greške sa Irakom. Nije mi straightfw ovaj novi Trampov patriotizam. 

 

Što se tiče cele priče o DF regulaciji i napuštanju CFPB, ne mogu se oteti utisku koji ostavlja ovaj grafikon. U pitanju su cene akcija finansijskih kompanija iz korpusa S&P500 . 

Forenzički gledano, Trampova pobeda je bila iznenađenje za tržište. Isto tako, Trampova pobeda u očima investitora znači da će doći do takvih stvari kao što je DF repeal i sličnog.

[dillinger]

Nda, kao da libosi nisu bili šizofreni u svom poimanju identiteta, multikulturalizma, nac.interesa, demokratije itd...pažnju treba posvetiti mnogim protivrečnostima same Trampove politike a ne njegovih glasača, npr želja da vrati industriju u US a istovremeno zabrani ulaz jeftinoj radnoj snazi, odnos prema islamskom terorizmu gde će opet ostati neokrznuti najveći sponzori istog - zalivske monarhije, itd itd...

[MayDay]

Pa dobro, šizofrena politika za šizofrene pristalice. Sasvim je svejedno odakle sam pošla.

[Eraserhead]

Mozda ovo Tramp salje poruku novinarima i opoziciji.

[Takeshi]

sad kad navale ruski tajkuni u prijateljsku ameriku, bice ih vise nego u londonu i crnoj gori.

[Lord Protector]

malo matoro ali dosta objašnjava

 

 

Joshua vs Jesus: Why white evangelicals love Donald Trump

OPINIONALAN BEAN  |  OCTOBER 3, 2016

 

Alan Bean

 

Almost 80 percent of white American evangelicals plan to vote for Donald Trump, a twice-divorced womanizer who made his name building and gilding casinos. A man who insults Hispanics, Muslims, African Americans, women, and anyone else who disagrees with him. A man who rejects foundational Christian principles such as love for enemies, radical forgiveness, turning the other cheek and unqualified hospitality.

 

Let’s admit right off the top that if the vote was restricted to white people Trump would win in a cake walk. In mid-July, 66 percent of registered white voters were planning to vote for Trump, and in some Southern states the figure is close to 90 percent. So, white evangelicals are no more pro-Trump than white folks generally.

 

Still, shouldn’t we expect that, strictly on moral and theological grounds, disciples of Jesus Christ, red and yellow, black and white, would pass en masse on a man with Trump’s résumé?

 

No, we should expect nothing of the kind.

 

For all its apparent diversity, American evangelicalism is dominated by two theological systems, both of which are uncomfortable with the radical words of Jesus.

 

The Reformed river is fed by John Calvin, a brilliant biblical theologian who ruled Geneva with an iron fist in the mid-16th century. Calvin’s God was sovereign and unchanging (the theological term is “immutable”). If God told Joshua to massacre the Amalekites, man, woman and child, who are we to quibble? However things may appear to a flawed and fallen humanity, Calvin taught, God’s decrees are just and true by definition.

 

A sovereign and immutable God has one limitation: he can never change his mind. The New Covenant inaugurated by Jesus could not be substantially different from the Old Covenant bequeathed to Moses. The genocidal carnage of Joshua and the Sermon on the Mount may appear irreconcilable, but God can’t change the rules without changing his character. So, Jesus and Joshua don’t just share a name; they share a theological vision. They have to. The unchanging character of God demands it.

 

When your theology forces you to reconcile Joshua and Jesus, the New Testament teaching on enemy-love, non-resistance, unqualified hospitality and radical forgiveness become inconvenient.

 

The only popular alternative to Calvinism in American evangelicalism is dispensationalism, a systematic attempt to account for the divergent traditions within the Bible without surrendering the principle of biblical inerrancy. Although God does not change, dispensationalists say, he occasionally changes the rules.

 

Old School dispensationalists like C.I. Scofield and Lewis Sperry Chafer had a clever solution to the Joshua-Jesus problem. The kingdom teaching found in Matthew, Mark and Luke (including the Sermon on the Mount) were never intended for the Church. Jesus came into this world to establish the kind of earthly kingdom anticipated by the Old Testament prophets, but Israel refused to cooperate. The Church, according to this interpretation, is a kind of Plan B, or “parenthesis,” that will persist until the church is raptured to heaven and the millennial reign begins on earth.

 

Everything Jesus said about non-violence, enemy-love, and turning the other cheek was never intended for “the Church age,” Scofield and Chafer taught, but will be in full force when Christ sets up his thousand-year reign.

 

You will be relieved to learn that some Calvinists (like Russell Moore) and some Dispensationalists (like Darrell Bock) are trying to find a middle ground between Reformed and Dispensational theology that makes more room for the teaching of Jesus. Neither Moore nor Bock will be voting for Donald Trump in November and that’s what you would expect. The closer you get to the Savior, the harder it becomes to embrace the Donald. You can love the man, forgive him, struggle to understand him; but you can’t vote for him.

 

Unfortunately, Russell Moore and Darrell Bock are evangelical outliers. The rhetoric flowing from popular, made-for-TV evangelicalism has assumed a desperate quality. America will only continue to be exceptional if she continues to be Christian, preachers say. If not, our beloved country will become a toxic slough of secularity — Sweden writ large.

 

It’s the children of light versus the children of darkness and somebody has to lose.

 

The premonitions of doom issuing from the religious right are reminiscent of Psalm 44, which begins with a celebration of God’s victories in the days of Joshua:

 

Through thee we push down our foes; 

through thy name we tread down our assailants.

For not in my bow do I trust, nor can my sword save me.

But thou hast saved us from our foes, 

and hast put to confusion those who hate us.

 

Suddenly, without a hint of transition, the mood changes:

 

Thou hast cast us off and abased us, 

and hast not gone out with our armies.

Thou hast made us turn back from the foe; 

and our enemies have gotten spoil.

Thou hast made us like sheep for slaughter, 

and hast scattered us among the nations.

 

Or, to quote Donald Trump’s paraphrase, “We never win anymore.”

 

Psalm 44 was likely written about the same time the book of Joshua assumed its present form: shortly after a remnant returned from Babylonian captivity to a heap of ruins that once was Jerusalem.

 

Books like Deuteronomy and Joshua were written to answer the “why” question. God told us to exterminate the inhabitants of Canaan down to the last sucking infant; but we made our peace with the infidel, marrying their daughters and worshiping their gods.

 

In Ezra and Nehemiah, the returning exiles divorce their foreign wives and build a big wall around Jerusalem, a line of demarcation between saints and sinners.

 

Old Testament texts like Joshua and Nehemiah get more attention in America’s white evangelical churches than the words of Jesus. The man who talks about recovering American greatness by building a wall is speaking a language conservative white Christians can understand.

 

 

Edited February 5, 2017 by slow

[jms_uk]

https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/828274356492988416

 

 

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[Time Crisis]

Slabo ti ide vadjenje iz konteksta, drug moderator je to svojevremno bolje denunciro pa je dodao i torpedovanje izbeglica.

Ali, hvala sto potvrdjujes tezu sa pocetka o palanci. Zabavno je gledati.

 

 

 

Cekaj, Andurile, stani, mislim da sam nasao koren nesporazuma, pa ti si u stvari rekao da izbeglice treba presretati na moru i odmah vracati u Libiju! Izvini ako sam pogresno shvatio tvoj post, ucinilo mi se da si rekao da izbeglice treba presretati na moru i odmah vracati u Libiju.

[Budja]

Mozda ovo Tramp salje poruku novinarima i opoziciji.

 

Gle, a moj utisak je bio da salje poruku 1 Nobelovcu i njegovim podrzavaocima koji se groze namernog ratnog zlocina u Jemenu (doduse to je nesto utihnulo, verovatno su shvatili da se tu igraju vatrom i sopstvenom pozicijom).

 

Inace, vidim da je Robert Reich rekao da su oni maskirani u Berkliju sto su unistavali banke ubaceni Tramparini ljudi. Teorija zavere, level HAARP.

[Eraserhead]

Gle, a moj utisak je bio da salje poruku 1 Nobelovcu i njegovim podrzavaocima koji se groze namernog ratnog zlocina u Jemenu (doduse to je nesto utihnulo, verovatno su shvatili da se tu igraju vatrom i sopstvenom pozicijom).

 

Inace, vidim da je Robert Reich rekao da su oni maskirani u Berkliju sto su unistavali banke ubaceni Tramparini ljudi. Teorija zavere, level HAARP.

Nista ostaje da vidimo da li preti da ce ubijati novinare kao ovaj "lider" kome se divi ili brani svoju neuspelu akciju u Jemenu.

[Budja]

 

In their declaration on migration, the 28 EU leaders said: "A key element of a sustainable migration policy is to ensure effective control of our external border and stem illegal flows into the EU."

[ObiW]

Da, sve je to isto: deklaracija EU da treba da se efektivno kontrolisu granice EU, i Donaldov ukaz da se ljudi sa stalnom radnom i boravisnom dozvolom ne puste da udju u Ameriku. 

[Venom]

Da, sve je to isto: deklaracija EU da treba da se efektivno kontrolisu granice EU, i Donaldov ukaz da se ljudi sa stalnom radnom i boravisnom dozvolom ne puste da udju u Ameriku. 

 

Nije sve isto. Donald tek treba da sagradi ogradu.

[Eraserhead]

Da, sve je to isto: deklaracija EU da treba da se efektivno kontrolisu granice EU, i Donaldov ukaz da se ljudi sa stalnom radnom i boravisnom dozvolom ne puste da udju u Ameriku. 

 

Esencija svejetoistoizma. 

[gone fishing]

bogati Amerikanci žele da se obezbede na vreme u služaju izbijanja Trećeg svetskog rata, udara asteroida, epidemije ili nuklearnog napada. Neki veruju da je razlog ovakvih reakcija i pobeda Donalda Trampa.

 

Jedan od onih koji je sebi obezbedio parcelu na Novom Zelandu jeste i režiser Džejms Kameron. Statistika kaže da su samo u januaru ove godine Amerikanci i Australijanci kupili više od dve hiljade kvadratnih kilometara.

 

Reč je o imanjima koja će imati dobru infrastrukturu kako bi mogla nezavisno da funkcionišu. Takođe, kuće će biti opremljena skloništa ujedno otporne na bombe.

 

Kako ovo nije tema o kojoj se otvoreno govori, potencijalni kupci koriste šifrovan jezik, pa ako kažete da "kupujete kuću na Novom Zelandu" zapravo znači poseban vid prepoznavanja u stilu "mi znamo tajnu", piše Dejli mejl.

 

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